Oh damn that looks good, nothing wrong with that apart from one thing…ya need a bigger bowl🤪.
Covid permitting, am off travelling with friends next spring around Scandinavia, but the following year all being well me and the wife are hoping to set foot for the first time in the US, theres just too much good food there to be eaten and cites to be seen.
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Many moons ago I use to go to a few different forums on here. Combat, when they first added it and strongman when they added it cause there were a few Highlanders on it. Weren’t really friendly areas, especially in the combat forum. Mostly had fight fans with no training or fights and were experts. Afterwards stayed in the over 35 forum, which itself has changed a lot, but they usually put up with my ramblings here. As for “educators” I’m pretty much doing what I learned over 50 years ago. It’s held me in good stead but I rarely give advise because truth be told I don’t understand half of the routines on here. Glad you’re with us here in the civil forum now.
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Hey Hel,
Thanks bud…
Yeah, I think its millennial thing tbh, sanctimonious and all experts with goggle and youtube at their finger tips. Like yourself, I’d rarely give advice anymore tbh.
I enjoy just this forum, civil and respectful and on a similar path. I find it interesting how other experienced lifters work around and overcome injuries or health problems, manage fatigue, build up to PRs, apply different techniques, what they eat etc, I’ve picked up loads of wee bits and pieces here in the last month or so. Most of all, I love the fight in experienced lifters to keep progressing irrespective of age and life throwing its curve balls and setting up hurdles for us to stumble over.
Good training mate
Rob
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Dr D’s forum, where Rob and I both were, was…intriguing. I don’t think the posts were venomous but the ability to PM let all hell loose. Thankfully, I never had any of it, albeit the mighty Grant (he’s now posting on Dr D’s forum here) did contact me under an assumed name to extol the benefits of his wisdom. I think it was Grant anyway as the writing style was similar. 6’4", 270lbs, single-digit BF and trained once every 4-6 weeks. All this in his late 50s. He’s either onto or on something. Delete as applicable.
Additionally, there’s only so much you can say about Nautilus now. It was an incredible period but there’s no more revelations to be had. How many times can you reinvent the wheel?
Cheers,
Ray
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Hey Ray,
Yeah, there was alot of things being said behind the seens, but the site itself was ok. Once Turpin (Craig) stopped posting, look how quickly things dried up.
In all honesty, even though i trained in HIT style for 20 years, i was never an Arthur Jones fan, i do give him credit though for his business acumen. But yeah, its like you said Ray a few posts ago, theres nothing new under the sun, only minutiae.
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Pharma is a bit of an evil brotherhood. There are a lot of inside references, and a lot of stupid young man popping in to show their arses. In general, they are going to go after any suggestion of a cycle without a test base, and it’s not all just being venomous. You ran a low key and reasonable anavar cycle. I’m sure your system was suppressed, but you kept it short and realistic. The 20 year-olds get on there and decide more is better, and will immediately run 16 or 20 weeks of nothing but orals and then start posting about all the the issues that they suddenly have from 200mg a day of orals for 6 months. It’s an aggressive attempt to curb that behaviour. Don’t take it personally. There is a history of brave young men being retarded with PED’s on there.
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You could be like me and truly dont give a damn anymore … I just view the forums as a source of entertainment. If I didn’t I would be pissed off all the time.
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Hey bud,
Nah i dont take it personal, its more i just cant arsed to argue online / social media. Id rather watch a Trump rally or something lol.
Nah, i dont believe you can curb the stupidity of some people, its human nature, people need to make their own mistakes and learn from them. I was approached years ago in the gym by a dealer when i was just 15 and many times after throught the years, id the good sense to say no. I decided to use a small amount around a year ago, I did mentioned a week or so ago i may use var again, but after giving it some thought i probably wont. So far ive been lucky, no negative effects, but thats not to say that’d be the case further down the road. If i do use again a small therapeutic dose of test would be about it. Even then id get blood works done first to see if i even need it.
Best
Rob
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Hey BD,
Thats exactly it mate, i just cant be arsed anymore. I just enjoy reading and seeing what other experienced lifters get up to and hopefully contribute something myself 
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Pretty much my mind set… I avoid pissing contest and debates on this shit. Now on a few occasions I will troll others that I think are Trolls… for a laugh.
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I recall hi.net, a website dedicated to the training advice of Mike Mentzer. THAT attracted some…characters. I think even the moderator was a known troll who turned up on Dr D’s forum regularly.
I’ll still use the occasional HIT method but the one set to failure days for a cycle or two have long gone.
Cheers,
Ray
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Thats exactly it BD, everyones an expert now and i just cant be bothered with it. Its like the Hodgetwins always said…“do whatever the f*ck you wanna do”.
You would have great fun on the old Dr D site, there where some real characters there over the years. Youd have been going through 6 packs of popcorn a day lol
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That site was a nightmare, people doing one set a month. But the best one was on a Pete Sisco site, an individual there claimed a 35lb muscle gain from one set of partial dedlifts and partial bench presses once every 6 months, no evidence of course. He took AJs advice of training intense, breif and infrequent to a whole other level.
Yeah, i mean HIT had its place for me for years while i was working long hours, but in hindsight, i could have done better had i not have trained to failure on every “work set” of every exercise, Plus, put more of a focus on big compound lifts, rather than pre exhaustion. But hey, we live n learn.
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I only truly dont care until its gets so stupid that it might be harmful to someone who might implement what they read… at that point I’ll start calling bull shit.
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Just tried my trap bar deadlift today after nearly 2 weeks of inactivity (provided you call digging a 1.72km trench inactivity) and struggled with 230kg–prior to that I pulled a comfortable 248kg. Now, whilst I admit the digging was a problem, this is pretty much what I found when I followed Mentzer: anything like 2 weeks between workouts just leaves me in stasis at best and slightly weaker at worst. Go onto Heavy Duty forums and you’ll be castigated. Mentzer clearly had issues–a shame as he did seem by all accounts to be remarkably giving of his time and experience–but even if you separate strength from skill this is always what happens with HD. I mentioned something like this on hi.net and the replies were … interesting. Never bothered responding to them, albeit this was some 10 years ago. Maybe things have changed (sic).
Ray
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Lunch time workout…
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Texas bar deadlift with calibrated plates (mixed grip)
Worked up to a single with 230kg
Then…
5 sets of 2 at 190kg, switching grip each rep -
Seated cable row
70kg x 8
100kg x 8
130kg x 8
90kg x 20
Had no intention of deadlifting today, but one of the guys at the gym was using the texas bar and I just had to have a rip. First time I’ve ever deadlifted with a mixed grip, liked it alot.
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Is a deadlift specific bar easier cause the flex means your lifting the weight kind of staggered?
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Hey mate,
Tbh, that’s still very good considering 2 weeks off with back breaking hard labour. But I do agree with what your saying in general. Mike advocated in the mid 90s, that when an individual hit a plateau, not only should you extend the recovery time between workouts, but you should first take a 2-3 week layoff before doing that. Personally I prefer cycling intensity and training more frequently. Long term its 2 steps forward one step back.
Ha, yeah saying that on that old site would have been a punishable by castration lol.
Best
Rob
Hey Boyce,
I’ve noticed the explosive fast off the floor guys seem to prefer it, the flex recoil seems helps them get it past their knees. Am more of a slow build up “through the gears” kinda puller lol, I actually found it a little harder tbh. It remains me of a silver dollar DL, in that, you’ve to first pull the slack outta the bar and pull again harder to get the weight moving, so yeah, a bit staggered.
I do like the thinner bar and the aggressive knurling though.
Contemplating on doing a raw deadlift contest next year, so I’ll need get use it.
Best
Rob
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Arms and shoulder volume today
TRICEPS
Pushdowns
Overhead cable rope extension
Machine dips
Reverse grip pushdown
No locking out on any exercise
BICEPS
Ez bar cable drag curl
Preacher curl
Reverse grip cable curl
SHOULDERS
Viking press (mid range piston style reps)
Rear delt cable flye
Machine lateral raises (partials)
3 gaint or tri sets on each bodypart, 15-20 rep range
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