Deadlift Form Critique (Vid)

[quote]UAphenix wrote:
first you spend way too much time fucking around, grip the bar get into position and pull. Second your hips rise way too fast you’re basically doing a straight leg deadlift. Keep those hips down so your legs can help out on the lift.[/quote]

what he said!

[quote]hachi wrote:

[quote]Emain123 wrote:

[quote]hachi wrote:
Wouldn’t weak hamstrings be the main culprit in his hips coming up so fast.

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It’s actually the opposite, because when you’re doing a straight leg deadlift the majority of the work is being done by ur lower back and hamstrings. The problem is likely his quads are too weak so the majority of the load transfers over to his hamstrings.[/quote]

I was thinking along the lines of when your squatting and your hips come up to fast, it’s usually because your hamstrings are weak and your body is trying to transfer the load to your stronger muscles (i.e. your back). I may be wrong though.

StormTheBeach any input on this, I trust you since you have such a big pull/experience.[/quote]

No I’ve got nothing. Hopefully I will break the 200lb barrier at some point, then I could offer advice.

[quote]StormTheBeach wrote:

[quote]hachi wrote:

[quote]Emain123 wrote:

[quote]hachi wrote:
Wouldn’t weak hamstrings be the main culprit in his hips coming up so fast.

[/quote]

It’s actually the opposite, because when you’re doing a straight leg deadlift the majority of the work is being done by ur lower back and hamstrings. The problem is likely his quads are too weak so the majority of the load transfers over to his hamstrings.[/quote]

I was thinking along the lines of when your squatting and your hips come up to fast, it’s usually because your hamstrings are weak and your body is trying to transfer the load to your stronger muscles (i.e. your back). I may be wrong though.

StormTheBeach any input on this, I trust you since you have such a big pull/experience.[/quote]

No I’ve got nothing. Hopefully I will break the 200lb barrier at some point, then I could offer advice.
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Storm gave some advise a few posts up.

Thanks for all of the feedback everyone. My form used to be a lot worse but I know I still have some work to put in. I’ll probably throw up another video after I feel I’ve improved a bit.

I just recently switched gyms on campus where all the “Alphas” of campus lift at so I’ll start asking around for advise and everything.

-Adam

[quote]Emain123 wrote:

[quote]hachi wrote:
Wouldn’t weak hamstrings be the main culprit in his hips coming up so fast.

[/quote]

It’s actually the opposite, because when you’re doing a straight leg deadlift the majority of the work is being done by ur lower back and hamstrings. The problem is likely his quads are too weak so the majority of the load transfers over to his hamstrings.[/quote]

x2. If you have weak quads, you will extend your knees to take your quads out of the movement. I will second everything that everybody else said, and tell you to add in some quad work as assistance to your deadlift. I like below parallel front squats…

Wouldn’t be surprised if you could pull an extra 50 pounds if you just get your quads more involved, it literally didn’t just look like a stiff-legged deadlift, it was a stiff-legged deadlift.

[quote]shootingman99 wrote:
Wouldn’t be surprised if you could pull an extra 50 pounds if you just get your quads more involved, it literally didn’t just look like a stiff-legged deadlift, it was a stiff-legged deadlift.[/quote]

Haha, well I guess that’s a good thing then. Easy way to up the 1RM, my goal right now is to reach a 1000 lb total ASAP!

Thanks for the tips everyone.

-Adam

My best advice would be to get a workout parter that knows what they are doing to help coach your form with you while you workout. Just be careful, don’t work somebody who thinks they know everything when they don’t know shit. Lol. Good luck with your goal, btw, what’s total as of now?

[quote]Emain123 wrote:
My best advice would be to get a workout parter that knows what they are doing to help coach your form with you while you workout. Just be careful, don’t work somebody who thinks they know everything when they don’t know shit. Lol. Good luck with your goal, btw, what’s total as of now?[/quote]

I actually just switched gyms on campus at KU and now lift where all the fitness majors and big guys lift at. You could say they are the “Alphas” of KU lol. I had another deadlift session today and they were helping, I feel like i improved a lot from just this session but still have some work to do.

“315 X 3”

My ass wants to rise first, I’m thinking this might be due to my weak squat numbers? It’s finally getting stronger though so hopefully I can fix this soon.

My totals are weak but I’m coming from being 6’1" at 136 lbs so I’ve made great improvements so far

Squat: 225 X 3 (this is finally just recently getting stronger)
Deadlift: 315 X 3
Bench: 205 X 2

I think if I were to 1RM it would be right at/around 790. I’m trying to reach 1000 ASAP!

[quote]ashylarryku wrote:

My ass wants to rise first, I’m thinking this might be due to my weak squat numbers? It’s finally getting stronger though so hopefully I can fix this soon.

My totals are weak but I’m coming from being 6’1" at 136 lbs so I’ve made great improvements so far

Squat: 225 X 3 (this is finally just recently getting stronger)
Deadlift: 315 X 3
Bench: 205 X 2

I think if I were to 1RM it would be right at/around 790. I’m trying to reach 1000 ASAP![/quote]

Your ass rising first has nothing to do with a week squat, it has to do with you bringing it up first. Try using less weight till you can get you form right. PUSH your feet through the floor and make the lift one big motion b/c right now your making it into 2. Its not as easy as it sounds. You have to focus on keeping you ass down and rising as a unit.

Also your still spending too much time fucking around. You’ll do a rep, set it down, reposition your hand then go again, set it down reposition your hand then go again.

Get into position Explode and drive thouse feet, bring it down pause for 1 sec. and go again.

[quote]ashylarryku wrote:

[quote]Emain123 wrote:
My best advice would be to get a workout parter that knows what they are doing to help coach your form with you while you workout. Just be careful, don’t work somebody who thinks they know everything when they don’t know shit. Lol. Good luck with your goal, btw, what’s total as of now?[/quote]

I actually just switched gyms on campus at KU and now lift where all the fitness majors and big guys lift at. You could say they are the “Alphas” of KU lol. I had another deadlift session today and they were helping, I feel like i improved a lot from just this session but still have some work to do.

“315 X 3”

My ass wants to rise first, I’m thinking this might be due to my weak squat numbers? It’s finally getting stronger though so hopefully I can fix this soon.

My totals are weak but I’m coming from being 6’1" at 136 lbs so I’ve made great improvements so far

Squat: 225 X 3 (this is finally just recently getting stronger)
Deadlift: 315 X 3
Bench: 205 X 2

I think if I were to 1RM it would be right at/around 790. I’m trying to reach 1000 ASAP![/quote]

Now I may not be the best for advice, but this is what I see.

Your ass doesn’t want to rise first, it is. By the top of your lift, your knees are locked and your hips are still way behind. This is only going to get worse with higher numbers. I would drop the weight back down and forget about the 1000 goal, because with bad form it is only going to get harder. Maybe try to work on some hip mobility and get your legs more involved in the lift. Try exploding out of the lift threw your feet.

[quote]ashylarryku wrote:

[quote]Emain123 wrote:
My best advice would be to get a workout parter that knows what they are doing to help coach your form with you while you workout. Just be careful, don’t work somebody who thinks they know everything when they don’t know shit. Lol. Good luck with your goal, btw, what’s total as of now?[/quote]

I actually just switched gyms on campus at KU and now lift where all the fitness majors and big guys lift at. You could say they are the “Alphas” of KU lol. I had another deadlift session today and they were helping, I feel like i improved a lot from just this session but still have some work to do.

“315 X 3”

My ass wants to rise first, I’m thinking this might be due to my weak squat numbers? It’s finally getting stronger though so hopefully I can fix this soon.

My totals are weak but I’m coming from being 6’1" at 136 lbs so I’ve made great improvements so far

Squat: 225 X 3 (this is finally just recently getting stronger)
Deadlift: 315 X 3
Bench: 205 X 2

I think if I were to 1RM it would be right at/around 790. I’m trying to reach 1000 ASAP![/quote]

Now I may not be the best for advice, but this is what I see.

Your ass doesn’t want to rise first, it is. By the top of your lift, your knees are locked and your hips are still way behind. This is only going to get worse with higher numbers. I would drop the weight back down and forget about the 1000 goal, because with bad form it is only going to get harder. Maybe try to work on some hip mobility and get your legs more involved in the lift. Try exploding out of the lift threw your feet.

[quote]ashylarryku wrote:

[quote]Emain123 wrote:
My best advice would be to get a workout parter that knows what they are doing to help coach your form with you while you workout. Just be careful, don’t work somebody who thinks they know everything when they don’t know shit. Lol. Good luck with your goal, btw, what’s total as of now?[/quote]

I actually just switched gyms on campus at KU and now lift where all the fitness majors and big guys lift at. You could say they are the “Alphas” of KU lol. I had another deadlift session today and they were helping, I feel like i improved a lot from just this session but still have some work to do.

“315 X 3”

My ass wants to rise first, I’m thinking this might be due to my weak squat numbers? It’s finally getting stronger though so hopefully I can fix this soon.

My totals are weak but I’m coming from being 6’1" at 136 lbs so I’ve made great improvements so far

Squat: 225 X 3 (this is finally just recently getting stronger)
Deadlift: 315 X 3
Bench: 205 X 2

I think if I were to 1RM it would be right at/around 790. I’m trying to reach 1000 ASAP![/quote]
Thats better than the first video. I noticed my form got better when I really focused on pushing through the ground.

With his butt that low, and his shoulders that far behind the bar his butt will rise first every single time. OP, the best advice I can give is to continue to work on driving with your feet and get ahold of a copy of Starting Strength by Mark Rippetoe. In the deadlift section he has a picture of a shorter guy, and a taller guy in their deadlift set-ups. Notice the differences. Now videotape and model the set-up of the taller guy insofar as it applies. Best of luck.

That’s better than it was before, but still has some problems. You really need to focus on the fact that it’s a compound lift. Don’t do one motion and then the other. You have to do both simultaneously. Think about jumping from a squatted position. You don’t extend your legs and then straighten your back, you do both at once. Think about the same thing when you’re deadlifting. It is after all a COMPOUND lift.

P.S. I totally agree with FFMatt, even though he double posted :stuck_out_tongue: You need to focus on getting the form right, before you concern yourself with getting a 1000 total. Because if you keep upping the weight before you can even perform the exercise, you’re gonna hurt yourself. And honestly, I wouldn’t really count your deadlift numbers until you’re actually deadlifting correctly. And stop fucking around before you lift the weight. Set your hands ONCE and just lift the weight, lol. :slight_smile: Good luck