Big deal, he got drunk and made a joke. It’s not like he’s a bonafide queer. Real men can dress up in women’s clothes as a joke. Only some secret homosexual trying to overcompensate would worry about it otherwise.
[quote]Rohnyn wrote:
Big deal, he got drunk and made a joke. It’s not like he’s a bonafide queer. Real men can dress up in women’s clothes as a joke. Only some secret homosexual trying to overcompensate would worry about it otherwise.[/quote]
lol good luck with that.
Ok, First in the interest of comedy:
[quote]Rohnyn wrote:
Big deal, he got drunk and made a joke.[/quote]
Well, the interview where he kept calling it a mistake and trying to mitigate the playing dress up by saying he was drinking heavily and doing a bunch of coke leads me to think it may have been more than a funny costume. Maybe more like he woke up the next morning smelling of lubricant and regret.
[quote] It’s not like he’s a bonafide queer. [/quote] Damn straight he’s straight. Plenty of real men wear skirts. Look at BraveHeart. Those guys were badass. Sure those were kilts, but what is a dress but a kilt that matches your shoes, that fierce Gucci clutch, and is cut to compliment your legs and bust line?
Exactly, he is a warrior. Like a viking. All be it a sensitive viking. Who lives in a one bedroom loft with two cats, a lot of track lighting, and his “room mate” Troy. Who he keeps bringing to family holidays. Like they are fooling anyone. But a viking warrior none the less. Ok, so maybe he is so deep in the closet that he has rescued Narnia a few times. Whatever.
Now, since De La Hoya vs Mayweather was brought up. De La Hoya did well in that fight. He won some rounds and made it close enough that it was a split decision instead of the shut outs that Mayweather is so capable of, but Oscar did not win that fucking fight.
I apologize if the above is offensive to cross dressers, cats, or vikings. Oscar De La Hoya and anyone named Troy should just deal with it. If you can take a cock you can damn sure take a joke.
Regards,
Robert A
“So deep in the closet he rescued Narnia” is my new favorite gay joke. I always thought De la Hoya came across as really effiminate, but who cares if he takes Dick in his free time? The guy was a Damn good boxer and an even better salesman. I didn’t like him in his day but I’ve since learned to appreciate what he did.
"If you can take a cock you can damn sure take a joke. "
LMAO!!!
that was priceless Robert A. I am going to a friend of mines “wedding” today, he is gay, I am going to find some way say this in some kind of context.
RobertA I need to start cut and pasting these to a manifesto.
thank you.
Damn Robert, I was just about to use that video to kick off a ‘What if?’ Meldrick Taylor thread. So much talent.
@sardines
Yeah I thought he bet Trinidad handy. I thought the Mosley fight was his too.
[quote]duffyj2 wrote:
I was just about to use that video to kick off a ‘What if?’ Meldrick Taylor thread. So much talent.
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This intrigues me.
“What if?” He had not fought JCC? What if the fight would have been stopped before the damage was done?
How would you frame it duffyj2?
Regards,
Robert A
A combination of the above. Plus many more. What if he had just backed off for the last couple of rounds? What if he had learned to fight in a safety first manner (At least some of the time)? What if it hadn’t been stopped? Meldrick Taylor had as much natural talent as any boxer I have ever seen. His handspeed when throwing combinations was just flat out retarded. Inhuman. He possessed tremendous skill, heart, power and chin (although in these last two respects he was not Chavez). He really had the potential to be a top-twenty stone cold all-time great.
And what would have happened in a fight between himself and Pernell? It would be like Manny Pacquiao/Floyd Mayweather x 1,000,000.
Ok, these are always fun.
[quote]duffyj2 wrote:
What if he had just backed off for the last couple of rounds?[/quote] A.K.A What if Lou Duva would have done his fucking job? Well I think the majority of the damage happened in the last three rounds. Even if he lost that fight on the cards, he wouldn’t have been a spent fighter after. His campaign up in weight would have went better. He may have carved out a legacy and won his re-match with Chavez. I do not think the fight would have done as much to hurt JCC’s star. Who else was there for Mexico to root for? [quote] What if he had learned to fight in a safety first manner (At least some of the time)?[/quote] I am not sure. I do not know if he was willing, or had the mentality to basically switch between styles. That takes a pretty cerebral fighter, and Taylor did not strike me as that even before the brain injuries. I am not sure Lou Duva would have been a good choice to train him if this was to happen either.
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What if it hadn’t been stopped?[/quote] Taylor wins a split decision. This sets up a re-match, and Taylor falls into the old trap, but worse. JCC is able to put it on him from round 4 on in the re-match and Taylor’s fall from unlimited potential to being “punchy” is greatly accelerated. The reason I am so certain of this is that both Taylor and his corner are in denial about the mistakes that were made in the first fight. Taylor never came to grips with his own weaknesses and tried to undo the Chavez fight by fighting more wars afterwords. Hell, Duva is remembering an alternate history. I just don’t think they would have been able to muster the self-criticism required to adapt and come up with a better game plan. Now IF they could, well Taylor would have been a freaking wrecking machine.
[quote] Meldrick Taylor had as much natural talent as any boxer I have ever seen. His handspeed when throwing combinations was just flat out retarded. Inhuman. He possessed tremendous skill, heart, power and chin (although in these last two respects he was not Chavez). He really had the potential to be a top-twenty stone cold all-time great.
And what would have happened in a fight between himself and Pernell? It would be like Manny Pacquiao/Floyd Mayweather x 1,000,000. [/quote]
I agree with all of this.
My gut says Taylor wins a decision against Pernell. If JCC made it “close”, alright we all think the judges simply scribbled “vive la Mexico” on the cards for 12 rounds and then made shit up when they had to turn em in but still, than Taylor should have been able to eek out a win. He is faster, and has better timing than JCC and still brings the power advantage over Sweet Pea. I would probably think Pernell out boxed Taylor after the fight, but I don’t know if the judges would see it that way.
[quote]Robert A wrote:
My gut says Taylor wins a decision against Pernell. If JCC made it “close”, alright we all think the judges simply scribbled “vive la Mexico” on the cards for 12 rounds and then made shit up when they had to turn em in but still, than Taylor should have been able to eek out a win. He is faster, and has better timing than JCC and still brings the power advantage over Sweet Pea. I would probably think Pernell out boxed Taylor after the fight, but I don’t know if the judges would see it that way.[/quote]
I agree with most everything that you wrote. And I see the outcome the same way that you do. The one thing I will say is that when I rewatch Meldrick v. Chavez I don’t see Taylor outboxing the durable Mexican. The story of the fight, as I see it, was:
My name’s Meldrick and I’m faster than you, so for each blow you land, I’m a gonna land two.
My name’s Chavez and I hit like a truck so by the time you leave here you’re gonna be fucked up.
I think Taylor simply traded two hard shots for one thunderclap. Pernell, on the other hand, did start to outbox Julio badly down the stretch. I see their relative levels of success largely as a matter of styles. Standing and trading with Chavez is always going to drain you more than it does him. Making him miss a lot frustrates him, takes the snap out of his punches and causes him to abandon his defense at inopportune times.
All of that said, I do not think Pernell can skate around somebody as fast as Meldrick the same way he did to others. He can’t hurt him, and he has that monstrous work-rate to contend with. At the end of the night, I see Meldrick taking home a UD that some, like myself, would contest fiercly.
One of the reasons I became so excited about this mythical match-up is displayed here:
http://compuboxonline.com/recordbook.php