As much as I hate people who ask questions instead of doing the research, I think I’m going to have to do it this time.
There’s been much discussion recently about using Power Drive post work-out for CNS recovery.
I’ve read Mike Robertson say he’s mixing (I think this is what he said!) Power Drive in his Surge.
I’ve read someone say that it’s probably better to have Surge alone and then have the Power Drive later, with the PWO meal–but I thought Power Drive should be taken on an empty stomach.
I also wonder about taking more than 1 serving of Power Drive a day.
I know I feel better–my mood is better and I can concentrate better when I take the Power Drive–I’m beginning to think I should take it in the morning before breakfast instead of coffee!
But the label does say ‘once’ per day.
I’ve been using the Power Drive after training for the last week, mixing it in my Surge, and I like the effect.
But I figured maybe someone more knowledgable than me could really sort this out.
I just answered this question in another post literally seconds ago. I remembered the reasoning and wrote it down there. You are right on track, though.
I’ll give you guys a preview of an upcoming article. Just don’t tell anyone.
I believe that the optimum use would Power Drive ~40 minutes prior to exercise. Although it’s instinctive to use supplements post workout, using them before will yield an immediate effect by providing the nutrients as they are needed.
10 minutes before training have the Surge. This will give you all of the pre workout benefits while not resulting in any potential competition issues for amino acid transporters.
There are other, reasons for wanting these substances active before training, but I’ll save those for the article.
Ahhhaaaaa I see the recommendation for Power Drive and Surge is here… I was waiting for that. I’m glad to see it made it to the forum fast.
40 minutes prior to exercise take the Power Drive and then 10 mintues prior to exercises the Surge for Pre-workout… AND 3-5 grams creatine in post-workout with Surge(that has the sodium)
Now to the question:
Any other CNS stuff I can take before the workout. For example: Today I took some Green tea + creatine + Power Drive 1 hour before the workout. Would this be alright with the exception it was an hour instead of 40 minutes? Would that be better…?
I have a question regarding preworkout nutrition. I still have a hard time believing surge just prior to, or during a workout is not beneficial. One reason is because of blood flow. If you eat to close to your workout, blood will be shunted toward digestive organs, which is not optimal for performance. For instance, pigs fed 30 minutes before a workout had 18% lower blood flow to legs during exercise than the group that digested longer, and gastrointestinal blood flow was 23 % higher.
Another problem is that you risk the chance of increasing insulin levels, although this will be somewhat diminished with a preponderance of circulating catecholamines.
Supplementation with carbohydrates increases glucose oxidation, and this is mediated by insulin.
Insulin also will inhibits the release of catecholamines, glucagon, and other counter regulatory hormones. It will also decrease the use of free fatty acids, due to its antilipolytic effects.
This will promote hypoglycemia from 1.) hypoglycemic action of insulin 2.) a lack of counter regulatory hormones.3) rapid glucose utilization by muscle at high intensities 4.) diminished contribution of FFA?s to energy cost.
Also, muscle glycogen is the majority of energy used during weight training. Approximately 75% of your fuels come from carbohydrates, 80% of this is from muscle glycogen. It is proposed that supplementing with glucose will spare glycogen stores; however, the rate of depletion is unaffected by supplementation due to insulin insensitivity of fast twitch cells. Moreover, you cannot build glycogen stores during exercise, as it is constantly being used, along with glucose. So it must already be present within the musculature.
Your insulin sensitivity also will not be as high post exercise.
This may have been covered somewhere else, if so, my apologies but I just wanted to get it cleared up if it has been. thanks.
I’m sure it’s not too big of a deal whether it’s 40-60 minutes before, so you’re fine.
[quote]Get Lifted wrote:
Now to the question:
Any other CNS stuff I can take before the workout. For example: Today I took some Green tea + creatine + Power Drive 1 hour before the workout. Would this be alright with the exception it was an hour instead of 40 minutes? Would that be better…?[/quote]
Cally, this is the perfect thread to introduce my next article, discussing the most common pre/post workout myths.
Although most of this has been discussed at one point or another, I think it’s important to repeat such information.
We know that insulin stimulates blood flow, and that a preworkout liquid meal will greatly increase blood flow to muscles. It’s discussed in more detail here: http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=556939
You are right in that pre workout carbs plus protein will largely hinder the lipolytic effect of exercise. I’m not sure that this has ever arisen as an issue, and have never suggested such a practice for fat loss.
More to come…
[quote]cally wrote:
I have a question regarding preworkout nutrition. I still have a hard time believing surge just prior to, or during a workout is not beneficial. One reason is because of blood flow. If you eat to close to your workout, blood will be shunted toward digestive organs, which is not optimal for performance. For instance, pigs fed 30 minutes before a workout had 18% lower blood flow to legs during exercise than the group that digested longer, and gastrointestinal blood flow was 23 % higher.
Insulin also will inhibits the release of catecholamines, glucagon, and other counter regulatory hormones. It will also decrease the use of free fatty acids, due to its antilipolytic effects.
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