[quote]mkral55 wrote:
If I was Dave Hoff, I would do a raw meet and purposely post shitty numbers just to see what would happen. Im talkin like, get red lighted for depth twice on purpose, then fake-grind a 315 3rd attempt. [/quote]
Everyone would roll their eyes, and go “That was a lame ass joke.”
This thread is silly. Dave Hoff is a fantastic multiply lifter. Until he posts some raw numbers at meet, there’s no point talking about it.
[/quote]
Yep, I think it would be hilarious for that exact reason haha
Hoff squatted 1200 high, there’s a reason he doesn’t give a shit what you have to say. He, and I’m pretty sure anyone that has made any impact on powerlifting, give a fuck that you can squat 375 ass to grass.
[quote]Hub3rt wrote:
Hoff squatted 1200 high, there’s a reason he doesn’t give a shit what you have to say. He, and I’m pretty sure anyone that has made any impact on powerlifting, give a fuck that you can squat 375 ass to grass. [/quote]
I don’t get the fuss. We all compete against others with more or less the same gear and judging. It’s possible to prefer raw lifting but be respectful about it
Hoff is a great lifter, the only number I would question might be the raw deadlift. Honestly though gym numbers mean nothing, and I doubt you will ever see him do a raw meet. Great lifter in gear, would be great out of gear, but its not as simple as being the best in the world at both. He would need at least 1 if not 2 training cycles to prep to be the best raw lifter in the world.
[quote]JonathanByrd wrote:
He would need at least 1 if not 2 training cycles to prep to be the best raw lifter in the world.[/quote]
Lol. He can have as many training cycles as you want, he wouldn’t be able to top Malanichev.
[quote]JonathanByrd wrote:
He would need at least 1 if not 2 training cycles to prep to be the best raw lifter in the world.[/quote]
Lol. He can have as many training cycles as you want, he wouldn’t be able to top Malanichev.[/quote]
Well formula wise isnt Eric the best? I mean I hate formulas, but that is really the only way to compare. I would bet Hoff would squat into the upper 9s with direct raw training, and I am sure he can out bench Eric, the pull is a whole different story!
[quote]JonathanByrd wrote:
He would need at least 1 if not 2 training cycles to prep to be the best raw lifter in the world.[/quote]
Lol. He can have as many training cycles as you want, he wouldn’t be able to top Malanichev.[/quote]
Well formula wise isnt Eric the best? I mean I hate formulas, but that is really the only way to compare. I would bet Hoff would squat into the upper 9s with direct raw training, and I am sure he can out bench Eric, the pull is a whole different story! [/quote]
I hear ya on the bench. Upper 9’s squat for him is totally out of the question though. It’s not just what he’d lose without the suit it’s a completely different movement pattern. A raw squat that big (to real depth) is a whoooole other ball game.
I don’t think for a second Hoff would touch Spoto unequipped period. He is not even the strongest shirted bencher for that matter. I really do not see how this thread is still going on
[quote]JonathanByrd wrote:
He would need at least 1 if not 2 training cycles to prep to be the best raw lifter in the world.[/quote]
Lol. He can have as many training cycles as you want, he wouldn’t be able to top Malanichev.[/quote]
Well formula wise isnt Eric the best? I mean I hate formulas, but that is really the only way to compare. I would bet Hoff would squat into the upper 9s with direct raw training, and I am sure he can out bench Eric, the pull is a whole different story! [/quote]
I hear ya on the bench. Upper 9’s squat for him is totally out of the question though. It’s not just what he’d lose without the suit it’s a completely different movement pattern. A raw squat that big (to real depth) is a whoooole other ball game.[/quote]
Its a different pattern? Guess I have been doing it all wrong haha! Maybe it is for him though.
[quote]Reed wrote:
I don’t think for a second Hoff would touch Spoto unequipped period. He is not even the strongest shirted bencher for that matter. I really do not see how this thread is still going on [/quote]
I think the Eric they are referring to is Lillibridge. Talking about whole meet lifters and not lift specialists like Spoto. I say this assuming you made the same assumption I initially when Jonathon used the name Eric.
[quote]Reed wrote:
I don’t think for a second Hoff would touch Spoto unequipped period. He is not even the strongest shirted bencher for that matter. I really do not see how this thread is still going on [/quote]
I think the Eric they are referring to is Lillibridge. Talking about whole meet lifters and not lift specialists like Spoto. I say this assuming you made the same assumption I initially when Jonathon used the name Eric. [/quote]
HAHA yeah! No way in hell he benches 700+ raw. I can buy 600, but 700? Not a chance!