[quote]evansmi wrote:
Thats him alright, 19, but the roids make you lose your hair and gravitate toward agricultural work… I saw it all on sixty minutes.[/quote]
Yea, everyone rips on them but where would our country be without our roid-raged farmers?
There’s a reason it’s called farmer’s walk!!!
[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
Hanley wrote:
The latest freak outta westside did 1005/680/745 for 2430 at 275 at the Iron House open last week end.
And he did it as a frickin 19 year old.
I don’t even know how to describe how sick that is.
awesome lifts and shit, but i dont like awing and fantasysing over others achievement but would rather concentrate on mine.[/quote]
Well as a fan of the sport as well as a competitor I like to watch lifts and observe results from meets.
How is anyone awing or fantasysing here anyway? I jsut posted it to let people know there’s a new monster on the block who’s probably gonna put up some even bigger totals over the next few years.
It’s not like it’s going to detract from anyone’s training cos they’re too busy thinking about Dave Hoff.
[quote]KBCThird wrote:
evansmi wrote:
thmgoodw wrote:
When someone’s official squat is 260 pounds higher than their deadlift, it usually means that they lift in one of those federations that allow 8 ply squat suits and squats that don’t come close to parallel.
Fuckin A
yeah, totally, that’s why 2400+ totals are such an everyday occurrence. I mean, ANYONE could do that, I’m shocked it took this slacker so long, anyone with any real kind of gumption woulda had it done by 18
anyway … what weight class was this?[/quote]
It was 275lb, but he weighed in at 256!!!
[quote]thmgoodw wrote:
When someone’s official squat is 260 pounds higher than their deadlift, it usually means that they lift in one of those federations that allow 8 ply squat suits and squats that don’t come close to parallel.
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Yes. Gear helps least in the DL, no? The mofo is strong, no doubt, but the total is inflated from gear.
[quote]Hanley wrote:
I don’t even know how to describe how sick that is.
[/quote]im not going to argue w/ you but tht’s awing
[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
Hanley wrote:
I don’t even know how to describe how sick that is.
im not going to argue w/ you but tht’s awing[/quote]
It’s a comment on how awesome his achievement is.
How is it “Awing”?
Am I holding him up as some powerlifting god? No, I am not.
Do I think he’s “the one”? I have no idea.
Is he going to be one of the best ever? Possibly, but it’s too early to say.
Did he do soemthing special at that meet? Hell fucking yes.
heres the video
For the love of god, why do you have a picture of the blue book. It still brings back bad memories.
[quote]eic wrote:
thmgoodw wrote:
When someone’s official squat is 260 pounds higher than their deadlift, it usually means that they lift in one of those federations that allow 8 ply squat suits and squats that don’t come close to parallel.
Yes. Gear helps least in the DL, no? The mofo is strong, no doubt, but the total is inflated from gear. [/quote]
[quote]Hanley wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
Hanley wrote:
I don’t even know how to describe how sick that is.
im not going to argue w/ you but tht’s awing
It’s a comment on how awesome his achievement is.
How is it “Awing”?
Am I holding him up as some powerlifting god? No, I am not.
Do I think he’s “the one”? I have no idea.
Is he going to be one of the best ever? Possibly, but it’s too early to say.
Did he do soemthing special at that meet? Hell fucking yes.[/quote]
although i still feel tht was awing, i apologize because i just watched the movie and tht was absolutely insane.
Perfect form on all the lifts. The squat was a thing of beauty.
Damm how could I go back in time and talk to myself about powerlifting when I was 15.
He has potential, obviously, and his form is spot on. However, I wonder how much more he weighs than is necessary for the weights he’s handling. It’s probably due to his age, but I bet as he gets older his body fat will start to swing more favorably for him. Right now, he looks like Marc Bartley’s baby.
[quote]eic wrote:
thmgoodw wrote:
When someone’s official squat is 260 pounds higher than their deadlift, it usually means that they lift in one of those federations that allow 8 ply squat suits and squats that don’t come close to parallel.
Yes. Gear helps least in the DL, no? The mofo is strong, no doubt, but the total is inflated from gear. [/quote]
I must ask a simple question. Do you know what powerlifting is?
I have to ask this rhetorical question because it seems there are countless people calling these double / unlimited ply total “inflated.” This seems to come from two sorts of people. The first are those who do not understand the sport, most of which have never done a true squat below parallel. The second group are haters would wouldn’t dare try to even handle those kinds of weights.
I’ve used single ply gear in the past (I’m mostly raw at the moment) and I can tell you that these suits do not magically give you 100 lbs or more just by putting them on. This is the attitude that breeds ignorance and is more of a cop out for people who are scarred to lift incredibly heavy weights.
Even Ed Coan has stated that (although he ONLY benched in the high 500s (maybe he hit a low 600, not sure)) he would never try to bench 800 lbs in a double ply shirt. People may bash these 1000 lbs benches, but I have yet to see ANYONE on this forum even approach that level, especially those haters out there.
Coan can still out squat anyone on this forum at age 46 and I doubt anyone is going to put Coan down saying his numbers are inflated. Coan competed in the APF/WPO and was not able to get a handle on the double ply gear. Clearly, adding plys is not so easy as just putting them on and getting under the weight.
I think people need to take a step back and say, WOW, that is a monstrous total for anyone @ 275. Its even great considering this is a 19 year old kid. He’s a gifted powerlifter and deserves people’s praises for putting up when it count.
I also find the deadlift vs squat comparison hillarious. WHO CARES? If you look at john inzer, his deadlift was about 100 lbs over his squat. I believe he pulled over 700 @ 165 and squatted over 600. His bench never got to 400. He was “basically” raw. Why aren’t people complaining that his bench wasn’t 500 when he can squat 700? Some people are bio-mechanically better at squatting than deadlifting or benching and visa versa, etc etc. Very few people excel at all three lifts. If you do, great, if not and you still beat people, good too.
Another person you don’t hear people complaning about is Wade Hooper. He squats in the high 700s (he’s hit 804 in training) benches in the low to mid 500s, but only deadlifts in the low 600s. Anyone care to take a stab at hooper or coan?
[quote]dhuge67 wrote:
He has potential, obviously, and his form is spot on. However, I wonder how much more he weighs than is necessary for the weights he’s handling. It’s probably due to his age, but I bet as he gets older his body fat will start to swing more favorably for him. Right now, he looks like Marc Bartley’s baby.[/quote]
Dude, he’s only 256lb.
David Hasselhoff powerlifts?
[quote]Hanley wrote:
dhuge67 wrote:
He has potential, obviously, and his form is spot on. However, I wonder how much more he weighs than is necessary for the weights he’s handling. It’s probably due to his age, but I bet as he gets older his body fat will start to swing more favorably for him. Right now, he looks like Marc Bartley’s baby.
Dude, he’s only 256lb.[/quote]
And he looks to be about 5’9.
[quote]Hanley wrote:
It was 275lb, but he weighed in at 256!!!
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'Kin 'ell!
[quote]dhuge67 wrote:
Hanley wrote:
dhuge67 wrote:
He has potential, obviously, and his form is spot on. However, I wonder how much more he weighs than is necessary for the weights he’s handling. It’s probably due to his age, but I bet as he gets older his body fat will start to swing more favorably for him. Right now, he looks like Marc Bartley’s baby.
Dude, he’s only 256lb.
And he looks to be about 5’9.[/quote]
Yup, so maybe a little bit too light.
He’s plenty of room to grow tho.
Dave’s 5’9" to 5’10". He’s a solid fireplug looking kid w/ a thick torso and wide hips. Right now he is on cloud 9 from his recent total. The funny thing is he rarely does asistance work. He usually does his main lift then takes off from the gym.
First of all, really impressive lifting by this kid. I hope he starts doing accessory work so he doesn’t injure himself, patellar tracking issues are common with people who squat that wide and do sumo, the external rotation of the femurs can cause quad imbalances.
That said, the squats were high. You can clearly see his hip crease above his knee. It’s more of a reflection on poor judging than a knock on the kid himself. If he had to go down lower, he probably would if he trained for it. Above parallel squats in a PLing competition is silly, which is why in general I respect the IPF more than the WPO.
This is not to say that I don’t respect WPO lifters tremendously, I just think the WPO has very lax standards on form to the detriment of the sport. I’m sure this kid could quarter squat 1300 pounds, but is that good for powerlifting?
A bit of constructive (rare, right?) criticism:
His sumo form is the worst of the three lifts. If he actually set up tighter he could probably move more weight. Because his hips aren’t tight at the bottom, it allows the bar to drift and hurts his lockout, as seen on the third attempt. He also doesn’t seem to be pulling backwards at all, and his weight doesn’t seem to be on his heels, again, a result of a loose set up.
Sure divebombing is a way to go, and it could be in an effort to utilize his suit, but really, better starting position will build more strength and discipline in grinding out attempts.