This is a slight conversion issue, the body needs Free T3, Free T4 is not as useful because there are no T4 receptors in the body.
Ughhh I know.
The problem is finding the conversion issue which is still an enigma to me.
Dessicated thyroid has t3 in it.
Mid Week Update
Just got off the phone with Dr. O’Connor’s assistant and they both overwhelming agreed to move on to neurotransmitters, which i must say i was quite surprised by.
I’ll pick up my wellbutrin script tonight and begin tomorrow morning. My follow up with the Dr is in 2 weeks but i know that it could take 4-6 weeks before i really know if its for me or not.
I’m looking forward to trying it however my t3 issues still concern me.
I’m going to order a DUTCH test and do a Saliva-Cortisol exam to have a more in depth look into my adrenals.
I feel no excitement nor am i getting my hopes up, but if Wellbutrin can help me in day to day life and give me a decent libido at best, it’ll really help me in the meantime while i still research and or experiment with t3.
We’ll see how the next few weeks go, I’ll keep you all posted.
Keep us posted.
Wellbutrin did very little for my sex drive, but did make me feel more alive. Hard to explain. Like better mood. Probably the anti depressant effects. It also made sleeping impossible, so take it early as you can.
Yeah I’m hoping wellbutrin has better luck for myself, only time will tell.
How long did you take wellbutrin for? Have you also stopped it for awhile and then restarted to see if you get the same boost? Maybe even combined it with a little caber or something?
Also have you tried HGH? I’ve seen that you’ve tried a lot of things but i dont believe youve mentioned that. Ever thought about giving it a try and seeing how you feel?
I’m sure this will fall on deaf ears like my last post, but there is nothing wrong with you. People who worry too much, play “what if”, etc cause themselves psychosomatic symptoms. Real pain and discomfort the mind creates to distract you from all that unhealthy thinking.
I’d bet money on it. Move tour focus to your mental health.
I’ve been there and done it. Tried and ssri, added Wellbutrin etc.
PM me if interested. I don’t plan on posting in here again.
You can’t PM on this forum.
I’ve taken Wellbutrin on and off for years.
It’s always given me energy and a better sense of well being.
I did have a crazy libido/arousal on day 10 of 100sr the first course I ever tried. I keep chasing that for it to never return.
Everyone’s chemistry is different. Keep me posted.
TRT RTR (Road To Recovery) Log Week 3
After sharing my results from 03/20/2018 with Dr. O’Connor’s assitant via sending an email asking to try neurotransmitters, the green light was given.
I was surprised honestly. I thought this would be more of an argument or requiring persistent convincing. That’s what i like about Dr. O and his office, the ability to actually see something see data given by a client and making rational decisions from there.
So i got wellbutrin prescribed as of 08/14. I took my first dose the next day on thursdsy the 15th.
So far after 4 days, here’s my analysis.
Pros
-Ever so slight increase in libido. Nothing crazy as of now or even yet, but noticeable. Woke up with morning wood the last 2 day and its a bit easier to stimulate erections. I even masterbated the last 2 days testing things out. Usually after masturbating I’m done for the day. I’m mentally drained and tired and my penis is useless for a couple of days. This time i was able to finish and still feel like i could another round a couple hours later, whether it be for sex or masturbation.
-Slight increase in assertiveness. I miss this about myself. I always have trouble look people, especially women in the eyes and having my presence truly felt. So far, I’m feeling myself a little bit more.
-Mood is better, nothing wild but i seem a tad bit more optimistic.
-Concentration and motivation have increased a bit, i feel a little more inclined to the things im passionate about without it feeling like work all the time.
Cons
-So this is what insomnia feels like. This shit is a bitch. I haven’t sleep 2 out of the last 3 nights. the same night i took my first dose, i recall opening my eyes at night surprised i haven’t fallen asleep yet, until i realized it might be the wellbutrin. I bought melatonin 10mg the second night and knocked out. tried it again the 3rd night but didn’t work. Granted i took an hour before i was gonna go to sleep and i was still active doing things at the time. i think if im going to take melatonin then i need while in bed ready to sleep.
-I’ve noticed ive become a tad irritable. My patience is has become thinner. Never tolerated bullshit, but now I’m feeling the beginnings of truly not tolerating bullshit. I usually try to keep things amicable, but now i almost feel a desire to have a confrontation.
-Dry mouth, but nothing too serious, just noticeable.
I have my fingers crossed. I’m on 150mg of Wellbutrin to start and so far it isn’t that bad. I’m praying that the positives grow stronger and stronger as well as the negatives abate over time.
Wellbutrin is the safest, in my opinion, when it comes to dopamine stimulation and neurotransmitter interactions. I really want this to be the answer as I’d HATE to delve into more serious compounds like caber & prami, as well as less proven medications for libido like buspar.
For now, I have to take it one day at a time. I expect to have an increase in dosage after 30 days, as well as outlasting the side effects. In the end, I pray it all leads to myself living a happy and healthy adult life.
I’ll make sure to keep you posted, see you guys next week.
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Sounds a bit positive. I had somewhat the same experience. The insomnia was horrid.
I always felt more assertive, less shy, and more confident on Wellbutrin.
I’m going to start another round of buspar tomorrow. That helped more for libido for me.
TRT RTR (Road To Recovery) Log Week 4
Hey guys,
So this is day 12 of wellbutrin, unfortunately no libido yet.
During the last week i was researching per usual and i stumbled across BPC-157. I’ve watched youtube videos and read many many user reports on it and I decided to go to my source at RUI and try it.
LOL after 2 days, my libido was COMPLETELY shot, couldn’t get an erection. I PANICKED and went to the ER. I will say the ER doc is one of the worst Drs I’ve ever had, i mean completely useless. They took some blood and sent me on my way.
I woke up today, it was a little better but i still feel off. I doubt 2 days and 1mg total of BPC is enough to have any lasting effects so hopefully it comes back.
I will say, as time goes on, i believe if i never had my time doing MDMA in my early 20s (last almost a year) i wouldnt be in this predicament.
I think i screwed with my neurotransmitters and dopamine definitely had to have suffered. i know testosterone increases dopamine in the brain and I’m sure the incessant spiking and last cycle was the last straw for my brain.
Fuck, the last thing i wanted it to be was my brain, the most difficult organ to treat.
I currently am looking online for ways to treat my dopamine problems but nothing thats definitively the answer.
I’ll continue the wellbutrin until the 6 weeks come thru but I’m already assuming ill need to move on.
Next step could be selegiline.
But in the end, what im afriad of is that ill have to take a dopamine agonist like mirapex. With light doses of .25mg before bed, I’ll actually feel much better.
But it seems with any dopamine agonist, augmentation is inevitable, whether it be in 5 months or 5 years.
I’ll make sure to exhaust all options before that.
I tried selegiline without any luck.
I too did some escstacy in college. However, only about a half dozen times. I always wonder if that affected something.
I have read about Mirapex and also requip. Requip is something I’d like to try.
At this point, anything i’ll try.
I did ecstasy in college a couple of times, but did LSD quite a bit more…probably 30 or 40 times. I’ve always wondered what effect that could be on my brain/neurotransmitters/HTPA too.
I did acid once. HORRIBLE. Never again.
Major pot head from 20-30.
That cant be good.
Well Wiz Khalifa gets high everyday and doesnt complain about libido lol
But i also decided to take a cannabis hiatus, seeing if itll help in the long run.
How long did you take selegiline for? it could take up to 6 weeks for work.
Did you combine it intermittently with prami/caber?
I can’t recall how long I took it, but I know if researched it well, so likely at least 6 weeks. I never took prami, but caber I took solo.
Prami should work, its very powerful and should be taken in the evening. I took it in the afternoon yesterday (.125mg) and that was the end of my Monday lol.
However it cannot be a long term solution, it’ll do more harm than good in the long run.
You should give hgh a shot. Even if you have decent igf-1 levels it couldn’t hurt. Especially if its one of the few things you haven’t tried.
I gotta commend you for sticking it out with your low libido for over a decade. It’s gonna be 3 years soon and I’ve periodically been losing my mind.
I’m honestly shocked you haven’t found anything long lasting.
Are you taking hcg with your trt? you could try dropping it if you haven’t or vice versa
I did try HCG and wasn’t a huge fan. Seemed to make me cranky.
I am going to try and get my FT up higher than it’s ever been. If that fails, I may contemplate stopping TRT and just saying I’m incurable.
TRT RTR (Road To Recovery) Log Week 5
What’s up guys!
I’ve decided to drop the Wellbutrin. Not for any deleterious effects, but because I’m kinda sick of drugs.
My impatience leads me to make impulsive decisions and I feel feel like I never never give myself a chance by just waiting.
There’s no guarantee this works, but I should just focus on getting T/E2 within optimal ranges and balanced. Taking OTC supplements and just eating well. I’m cutting out cannabis use too.
I’ve had worries about doing test without Hcg. I want to maintain fertility. But after browsing the forums and watching some YouTube videos, I realized it may not be too concerning. One guy on reddit was on test only for 27 YEARS and simply added Hcg. A few months later he was able to conceive.
With that being said, I feel comfortable following the anabolic doc’s original protocol of Test e5d, no Hcg nor ai. Trying to be balance 3 different exogenous drugs at once hasn’t shown any benefit at all. Being that I used to take test only cycles and never had a problem, I probably took for granted the process of homeostasis and how much time it takes for the body to adjust. Adding a drug to a hormonally balanced body most likely isn’t the same as adding one to an imbalanced one.
So from here on out, for the next 3-4 months, I’ll just be doing test only e5d. Letting my body have a sense of consistency and hoping this will finally dial in my protocol or at the very least, it’ll show me the true outliers once it’s dialed in.
I’ll keep you guys posted. In the meantime i gotta get back to my life purpose, it’s been calling me.
Come the end of the year, my problems will finally be a thing of the past, or It’ll be a few steps closer to be so.
Catch y’all next week.
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