@darkdescartes
Yeah I normally feel like poo-poor for about 6-8 weeks on any change.
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TRT RTR (Road To Recovery) Log Week 15
Not much change going on.
Took shot number 3 on friday. i didn’t crash after the shot like i did the previous time which i have to assume is progress. Maybe a little bit more erectile use at the time of shot but nothing to rave home about.
No real changes to be expected, especially after only being 12 days in as of today.
I’m doing what I’m doing, grinding and such but man, i’m certainly looking forward to my shot days which always seem to take forever to get there.
I definitely exercise patience better than i ever have before, quitting cannabis just may be that keystone habit that helps put everything into place, but i need 6 weeks here like NOW.
We’ll see how shit goes. I’m certainly waiting for a moment that shows Im headed in the right direction.
Catch y’all next week
I love reading updates like this but I think it would be helpful to list what you are taking currently & changing from in each update.
It sounds like you’re moving in the right direction and I’m rooting for you.
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Shit & here i was thinking i should be more concise because i thought you guys didn’t wanna hear EVERY detail that went on during the week lol.
I’ll make sure to be more intricate in my logging if thats what you guys prefer!
And thanks for the love Dexter! I hope you’re right but only time will tell.
I’ve picked meditation back up and been at it 4 outta the last 5 days. May not be able to do it every single day in a row but consistency is what Im more concerned about. Looking to further aid in my dopamine sensitivity restoration and develop another key stone habit that’ll help me for the better.
I’ve run outta B-Complex and decided to replace it with some milk thistle. I also rebought DHEA & Preg from Pure Capsulations at 25mg and 30mg respectively.
I also saw another one of your post about b12 sublingual with the amazon link. I decided to 1 click buy it because energy is something i could certainly use.
I still take Taurine & ZMA at night along with 10mg of melatonin.
During the day i have:
Uridine
Vit D
B12
DHEA
Preg
AL-Car
Milk Thistle
I’ll probably look to add NAC in again next week.
Once again, I hope this is the beginning of the end of a long and arduous journey from my past mistakes.
Next shots come this upcoming Wednesday & the following Monday.
Certainly will update Monday night, hopefully some good news follows
Until then!
hey guys
I’ve had some gyno in my nipples for the longest time but it’s ebbed and waned through the last year or 2
The girl I‘m seeing says although it’s not bad looking or super noticeable, that there does appear to be a little more fatty tissue around the area
Now she never brought it up until I mentioned it however I’d want to resolve it for obvious reasons.
I want to make sure I keep a consistent protocol and was wondering if a short course of nolva or toremifene would a detrimental in anyway during my process of achieving homeostasis?
I’m pretty sure a small amount of fatty tissue isn’t gyno
Ok let me be more specific:
They’re solid lumps and when I squeeze them I can produce trace amounts of clear liquid
Does that satisfy your definition of gyno?
@darkdescartes
Tamoxifen can’t hurt. I know folks who successfully reversed theirs doing two weeks of 40mg/day and then a couple months of 20mg/day.
TRT RTR (Road To Recovery) Log Week 15
Took shots 4 & 5 this past wednesday and today.
Still waiting on that sign that Im on the right path. Unfortunately 20 days, no signs of real improvement yet.
it feels discouraging but at the same time I gotta let my body run its course and know that at any one of these days, i could wake up and feel the progression.
Who knows if this e5d protocol is for me either? I’ve been 2x a week Mon/Thurs for all of my injecting life. My bouts of small progress have all come from 2x a week, but this protocol is doctor recommended so we should stick with it for obvious reasons.
If this doesnt work then ill go back to twice a week, part of me is worried that ill need a higher level of testosterone than my body should have in order to feel normal again. The thoughts of my longevity would come into question, but we’ll see how these next several months play out.
I’ve decided to temporarily drop DHEA & Preg from my supplement list. I’m feeling like i could be more estrogenic than usual, hasn’t been any kinda good life from my penis. I had my ex over this past thursday to hang out for a bit before she heads back to Med school. She was on her period so we couldn’t fuck anyway, but my dick wasn’t concerned with any action at all, even with some cialis thrown into the mix. I got a few chubs here and there but i didn’t really get a full rock hard erection. Not even close.
My body definitely feels further away from homeostasis than closer to it. The thoughts of changing protocols always creep into my brain all sneaky like. But i know for my own sake thats a terrible idea and ill have to further delay my blood work AGAIN.
Picked up some NAC and Vit C to add to my supp stack and thats all i need right now in that department.
Started taking nolva 3 days ago for the gyno. I don’t have much of it honestly so i think I’ll stop and hold off. I was going to buy some but it i think it’ll be best to wait it out until i get blood work and then ask for a prescription.
So far i’m not a big fan of the 100mg E5D protocol. At this point i have no libido, not even a desire to masturbate after about 2 weeks from my last time masturbating. Erections aren’t easy to achieve and I’m not necessarily tired but im certainly not energized either. The gym i could certainly take it or leave it.
However i hold out hope that its merely too early to tell and i need more time.
Tomorrow marks day 21 and i enter week 4 afterwards. Next shot comes Saturday.
Catch you guys next week.
That sounds like a prolactin issue, regular gyno doesn’t produce any lactation. Caber may be more productive than Nolva for that. Have you had your PRL checked recently?
This is also a symptom of high prolactin, low dopamine
Never had prolactin issues through out years.
I had a 1 month experiment with Tren just to try it back in 2015, i think it was 350mg twice weekly or 350mg split into 2 shots, can’t remember. Other than that i never used anything that would increase prolactin.
My prolactin has always been towards the very bottom of the range whenever its been tested.
I’ve had these lumps for the past couple years. They seem to be getting smaller though, hopefully its not in my head.
I get bloodwork on dec 11th. Of course if my bloodwork reads high prolactin ill use prami. Otherwise i wouldn’t want to mess with a dopamine agonist on my own, too much risk.
Fair enough. Is the the thread where you’ve recently stopped using weed or something like that? Altering a dopamine-releasing substance like that could def be the cause of your issues. PRL could have been normal in the past, but if this is a new change then your body could still be in the early stages of recovering DA production and uptake.
Google nipple discharge, lack of motivation, loss of libido, depression like symptoms, and see if high prolactin isn’t the first result
Too be fair, I’ve been a daily smoker for a long time before quitting 2 weeks ago.
I’ve never had libido problems before steroids nor during cycles with steroids up until my very last one where i wasn’t right since.
I’ve gotten high and fucked bitches many times afterwards.
I’ve had a couple of flashes of libido progression and those times have happened while still getting high every night.
Weed every day was slowing me down in general, but if there was any chance it was hindering my libido, i thought it’d be a good idea to quit.
Definitely feel like my gyno lumps are smaller. If it was high prolactin, i definitely would’ve had it solved a looooong time ago, i wish it were that easy for me honestly. Plus my nipples dont discharge by themselves, it only happens if i squeeze REALLY hard, don’t know if that matters or not.
My symptoms do correlate a lot with low dopamine, but also with testosterone deficiencies and hormonal imbalances.
I think it might be as simple as finding the right protocol, however i do have doubts if this is the right one for me.
I’ll reserve all judgment until i get bloodwork and ill post it here.
Yes, going from daily use (you function fine while using) to stopping can have the exact impact you’re describing. Your PRL will stay low as long as you have the DA releasing drugs in your system. You had flashes of libido while using and no libido off? Exactly: the drug is enabling the neurotransmitter signals and they stop when you come down.
Discharge when squeezing them, clear liquid (since men don’t produce milk).
I wouldn’t think this is a TRT issue, it’s all about neurotransmitters, which TRT can affect, but I’d pin this on the weed use & sudden stoppage.
I had the same issue with opiates. Eventually I didn’t use them to get high, I needed them to just function. I’m on Suboxone now and as I’ve tapered my dose down I noticed I’ve had similar issues as my body ‘catches up’ with DA & endorphins production.
It just takes time, but I did try Caber for 3 weeks to speed the process along. Just had PRL drawn last week and should have results any day now.
I’m really curious to see how your labs come back. But, even without a DA agonist, you will eventually recover.
Wanna chime in on this since you’ve also been a daily smoker and quit?
Did you get prolactin issues when stopping?
I’ve done A LOT of research on quitting weed and how its effected people when stopping, I’ve yet to read about somebody having prolactin issues upon cessation.
plus opiods and cannabis are 2 different animals. I would have trouble functions if i smoked more often than not as opposed to the opposite.
damn it was actually high!
Did you take a DA to get it down?
No I don’t take anything for it. It looks high when we think about T & E2 in accordance to their range but prolactin can get in the 1000’s so really mine isn’t that high.
I just typed in ‘does weed affect dopamine’ and this study came up. It acts on the dopamine system in a similar manner to opiates. Long term use then leads to a blunting of dopamine.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5123717/
This study shows the negative impact weed has on neurotransmitter systems, similar to opiates.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/amp/314222
This study shows that PRL was lowered while using THC, which would lead to an increase after usage stopped.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/amp/314222
And lastly this one was a case study on one girl, but showed an increase in PRL after she stopped long term marajuana use that eventually normalized.
Anyway, that’s just a few google searches worth of info, and the rabbit hole goes deeper lol. I’d still bet that is what’s causing your problems. Bloodwork will tell the tale, as they say.