Dan Hardy is training at DeFranco’s gym while he is in NJ for his upcoming fight with GSP. Probably interesting for this forum. I hope they put some footage in the primetime show on spike.
Wow, i would love to see some of that footage.
there was some but they took it down because a lot of the footage is on the next primetime episode. It’s basically a lot of plyos and strength work.
yeah defrancos guys tried to post some over on elitfts, but spike took it down
Well that was disappointing. I hope after the fight Defranco post more video of Hardy he looks pretty strong.
GSP talked about how Hardy walks around 200lbs, that’s almost as big as Thiago Alves, it sure impressed me.
I’m actually expecting an entertaining scrap if Hardy can keep it standing
[quote]kaisermetal wrote:
GSP talked about how Hardy walks around 200lbs, that’s almost as big as Thiago Alves, it sure impressed me.
I’m actually expecting an entertaining scrap if Hardy can keep it standing[/quote]
Hardy would have to be training on Krypton with Superman as his coach for any sort of training at this point to make a difference. He’s going to get owned, don’t expect even a close fight.
Yeah, i know. I’m just hopping for a entertaining fight, but deep down there i know it will be a takedown festival with GSP.
[quote]kaisermetal wrote:
Yeah, i know. I’m just hopping for a entertaining fight, but deep down there i know it will be a takedown festival with GSP.[/quote]
I’m not so sure that GSP couldn’t stand with Hardy. If you remember correctly GSP began his MMA career as a stand-up guy with a Karate background. He brought his wrestling skills up to championship level only after losing to Matt Hughes back in the fall of 04’.
Unlike you I don’t want to see a good fight. I think Hardy is an illegitimate opponent thrown in there only because Dana White and company can taste all of the English PPV dollars floating in.
Can you (or anyone) honestly say that Hardy could beat Alves, Fitch, Thiago or Koscheck? No way. Funny how he gets a shot at the title without facing any of these guys.
So who is Dan Hardy and why does he currently have a title shot?
This smacks of just another Bisping deal. Push the guy as far as possible in order to rake in English PPV dollars, not on his own merits. I think Hardy is a good fighter, but he is in no way ready to meet GSP for the championship. And if he was from the US he wouldn’t be fighting him.
I love mma but I’m very, very sick of Dana White and the UFC hype machine.
There werent many options at WW other than Hardy.
[quote]drewh wrote:
There werent many options at WW other than Hardy.[/quote]
Why not have Hardy fight Fitch, Alves or Koscheck? I know why. The answer is he would lose and then never get a title shot and there go all the English PPV dollars.
Like I’ve repeatedly said Dana White makes me sick.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]drewh wrote:
There werent many options at WW other than Hardy.[/quote]
Why not have Hardy fight Fitch, Alves or Koscheck? I know why. The answer is he would lose and then never get a title shot and there go all the English PPV dollars.
Like I’ve repeatedly said Dana White makes me sick.[/quote]
At least for the time being, there are no English PPV ‘dollars’, the fight is broadcast on satellite tv in the UK - I suspect this arrangement is due to last at least for the short term (in view of the death of Setanta and the subsequent arrangement with ESPN). The other fellas have had a shot and lost. I agree that Hardy might not beat all of them necessarily but fuck it, let’s see someone else have a pop.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]drewh wrote:
There werent many options at WW other than Hardy.[/quote]
Why not have Hardy fight Fitch, Alves or Koscheck? I know why. The answer is he would lose and then never get a title shot and there go all the English PPV dollars.
Like I’ve repeatedly said Dana White makes me sick.[/quote]
Do you wath UFC? Koscheck had untimely loss to Paulo Thiago. Kampmann Swick was supposed to be for number 1 contender. Swick got hurt so Kampmann fought Paul Daley. Daley KO’d Kampmann so they set up Swick Hardy expecting Swick to run through Hardy. Hardy beat down Swick. And all other fighters had already fought and lost to GSP or were coming off of losses, so the only logical choice was Dan Hardy.
But Paulo Thiago is still too green to fight GSP. He should have more fights to build him up before that. Even the UFC said that.
And i hope Bisping die of AIDS, he is just hype.
[quote]kaisermetal wrote:
But Paulo Thiago is still too green to fight GSP. He should have more fights to build him up before that. Even the UFC said that.
And i hope Bisping die of AIDS, he is just hype.[/quote]
Bisping is more than hype, he deserves his chances to stay with UFC.
Secondly you hope he dies of AIDS? Wow… just… wow…
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]drewh wrote:
There werent many options at WW other than Hardy.[/quote]
Why not have Hardy fight Fitch, Alves or Koscheck? I know why. The answer is he would lose and then never get a title shot and there go all the English PPV dollars.
Like I’ve repeatedly said Dana White makes me sick.[/quote]
I don’t get why it makes you sick? GSP needs a fight and he’s recently beaten Alves and Fitch in fairly dominating fashion and neither has scored an impressive enough victory yet to warrant a rematch. Hardy was the only matchup that made sense as he is coming off an impressive victory and has the longest win streak of any of the welterweight contenders. He’s also somebody that people love to hate and will tune in to watch GSP pound his face in.
Who else should GSP have fought?
Fitch: GSP recently dominated him and nobody will ever want to see that rematch unless Fitch changes his style or drastically improves.
Alves: Obviously they weren’t going to rematch them quickly after that fight.
Koscheck: Maybe if he would have beat Paulo Thiago and he’s probably up next if he beats Daley, but it would have made no sense to give him this title shot so soon after getting KTFO by Thiago and after the controversy in his fight with Johnson
Thiago: One or two more wins and he’ll get his shot, but he wasn’t getting serious respect as a contender until he beat Swick.
Daley: Will probably get a shot if he beats Koscheck, but he wasn’t a better choice for this fight than Hardy since he still has fairly recent losses to Thompson and Shields.
Who else? Hughes? Kampman? Swick? Condit? There’s not an interestng middleweight who can move down and BJ Penn isn’t moving up again just yet.
You probably pegged Dana White’s thought process, but what’s wrong with that? He needs his welterweight champ to fight and there wasn’t really any great options, so why not go with the new guy who’s got some hype surrounding him AND a 4-fight win streak?
[quote]drewh wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]drewh wrote:
There werent many options at WW other than Hardy.[/quote]
Why not have Hardy fight Fitch, Alves or Koscheck? I know why. The answer is he would lose and then never get a title shot and there go all the English PPV dollars.
Like I’ve repeatedly said Dana White makes me sick.[/quote]
Do you wath UFC? Koscheck had untimely loss to Paulo Thiago. Kampmann Swick was supposed to be for number 1 contender. Swick got hurt so Kampmann fought Paul Daley. Daley KO’d Kampmann so they set up Swick Hardy expecting Swick to run through Hardy. Hardy beat down Swick. And all other fighters had already fought and lost to GSP or were coming off of losses, so the only logical choice was Dan Hardy.[/quote]
Koscheck vs Hardy and the winner takes on GSP would have made far more sense. But when Hardy lost to Koscheck that would have taken England out of the equation and Dana Whit can’t have that now can he? But hey thanks for the UFC recent history lesson, you are truly a fan and are correct on every one of your points other than the final analysis.
[quote]kaisermetal wrote:
But Paulo Thiago is still too green to fight GSP. He should have more fights to build him up before that. Even the UFC said that.[/quote]
Do you realize what Thiago would do to Hardy?
I’ll assume you are a stupid teen and over look that ignorant remark.
[quote]jtrinsey wrote:
You probably pegged Dana White’s thought process, but what’s wrong with that? He needs his welterweight champ to fight and there wasn’t really any great options, so why not go with the new guy who’s got some hype surrounding him AND a 4-fight win streak?[/quote]
Yea, it gives Dana an opening to do what he wants anyway. However, Hardy should have fought Koscheck or anyone else before GSP. But then there would be no Hardy GSP match if he did.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]jtrinsey wrote:
You probably pegged Dana White’s thought process, but what’s wrong with that? He needs his welterweight champ to fight and there wasn’t really any great options, so why not go with the new guy who’s got some hype surrounding him AND a 4-fight win streak?[/quote]
Yea, it gives Dana an opening to do what he wants anyway. However, Hardy should have fought Koscheck or anyone else before GSP. But then there would be no Hardy GSP match if he did.
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Agreed. I am hoping that after he gets pwned by GSP that he can rally back and get some wins and become an interesting contender. I think that having him, Alves and Daley become/stay legit would add a fun style contrast to the wrestlers who are currently at the top.