So a lot of sound feed back and is much appreciated, I agree with some disagree with others. As far as GH have done it in the past because back then I knew exactly where it was coming from. Getting real GH now is a crap shoot. The process to make GH IS very complex VERY!!! And I believe the UGL don’t have the means to make it , they do but who is to say it is GH , read up a lot of the time they send u HCG. And for argument sake let’s say they send u real GH , now they ship from the west coast to the east , the temperature change alone in shipping can crash the GH, it is a very fragile compound not easily made at least properly . Do I believe some labs produce good GH sure . But which one … I am all ears
Please allow me to speak for myself:
I had used AAS’s during the '70’s, '80’s, and '90’s. It was my goal to be able to stand on stage at a national bodybuilding contest and not look out of place. I was seeking that benefit and was willing to accept the risk of using AAS’s. It has always been my desire to optimize my physique throughout my lifetime, which I have strived would extend into my 90’s.
The “summer cycle” fnhuge has presented grossly exceeds any quantity of AAS’s that ever did. I would have considered that the risk far outweighed the benefit. And I ask, the results of the “summer cycle” are just to produce an optimal look for… what?
I try to understand AAS use for non-competitive purposes. But when I do IMO, it would only be rational in moderately low risk quantities. Most all the guys that I was around used AAS’s for competitive purposes. There were exceptions, that I would classify as just wanting to feel part of our small group, maybe hoping to achieve a level to compete (though maybe not.) We had a powerlifting team that nearly always won the team trophy. And many competed in bodybuilding contests. It our time, within our group, AAS’s were all about competition optimization.
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I don’t think competition justifies the use of AAS (unless you can make a living doing so). I think it is a personal decision for the competitors and the non competitors. There isn’t monetary gain of any significance if I win a BBing, PLing, or Strongman event.
I have justified using a bit more for doing a PLing meet, but it was because I wanted to be stronger and better. Those are the reasons non competitors do it too. I guess best lifter did win a tub of protein powder, and a custom belt, but that is no reason to use AAS. Again, if you can make a living off of it, then sure that is a justification, but that is like 100 total people in the US.
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There are zero traditional UGLs making rHGH. Many of the vials being sold as ‘generic’ (which is a really misleading term) are being made at legitimate production facilities that allow a portion of the product to be sold on the black market. That wouldn’t fly in the civilized world, but in China it is perfectly normal.
There are a bunch of tested, verified generics out there. If it tests at 99% with dimer <1% then you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between that and any top Chinese pharmaceutical brand. US brands are made to absolute perfection, dimer is very nearly 0%. But for a reasonable amount of money you can get high quality generics and you’ll achieve the ultimate goal, which is higher IGF-1 numbers.
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It may have been in the past but not anymore. Almost every nagasaki bath oil salesman has it with lab data to back it up. I personally know people on and off this board that have use it from multiple sources with no issues and labs showing extremely high IGF1 from as little as 2-4iu per day.
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I look at this somewhat in parallel to Goldman’s Dilemma.
“If I had a magic drug that was so fantastic that if you took it once you would win every competition you would enter from the Olympic Decathlon to the Mr Universe, for the next five years but it had one minor drawback, it would kill you five years after you took it, would you still take the drug?”
No… yes… maybe?
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Anyone have any faith in roidstest? I recently tried some HGH from a UGL. Test came back positive for somatotropin on roidtest. I’m doing 4 iu at night to work on a cut. Interestingly I gained 4 lbs in a week and a half at a deficit, I’m assuming water weight but I’m already on a high test cycle.
Fuck. I just took it 
Start the countdown and YOLO the hell out of it.
So can anyone recommend or point me In the right direction
Can’t do that here. This is information and harm reduction only. Finding a source is up to you.
Knew that but took a shot, thanks
If you look around you’ll find people willing to help you. But the rules are strict for a reason. We like this place being free of shills and hucksters.
It sounds like you’ve already got a solid source for your current and last drugs, just ask him.
Completely understand and respect that !!!
GH is a different animal all together, I have plenty of connections for gear , but GH is a whole different trust
That is a crazy cycle lol I would also love to see what you look like, even an old pic when you were in shape.
Why not add 200mg trenbolone in place of some compounds there?
Did that cycle last summer, finished up with it end of August. Went for a full blood work up in beginning of October and results were great , doctor was very happy with results. He does blood work for a lot of body builders and athletes. Did I get lucky some may say yes, others will tell u my diet and training are always dialed in. Not big on pictures, and not because I am full of shit just at 50 no need to boast . If I can figure on how to send one from vacation I will ,which reminds me check out Old Town Fitness in key west. I am down there always for the month of August, let’s meet and train … open invitation!!!
Maybe if you check my profile you’ll see something that helps you. I’ve had a lot of discussions about GH here before, so perhaps something I’ve said in the past will be useful.