Would you be willing to post pictures of yourself OP? Curious what these dosages can do.
And u have very , very valid points and r correct In What u r saying. But as I said I get bloods twice a year , had two EKGs . Cardio everyday and good diet, non smoker , non drinker . And what u say is definitely not off point . But and not as an excuse things can be done correctly
About his test I can not truthfully answer, so I would have to say in my defense no , but I could be wrong . And unfortunately we parted ways years back and I have no contact with him anymore
Sure let me get into “ better shape “ and when I start the cycle will absolutely post beginning and end picture
This causes me some questioning into the necessity of an advanced cycle. I would think at this level you should be far past prime, no?
As far as the layout goes I don’t truly see the harmony of some of these choices. It appears that you are going for leaner gains other than the high test. Not sure why you would run primo and masteron as double DHTs and then also need proviron? IMO you would drop the mast and proviron and just run the test/eq/primo. T3 is up to you of course to cut near the end.
You mentioning this proposed “summer cycle”, begs the question, what do your other seasonal cycles look like?
Past prime as am i an “oldman” hahaha to u young guys yes 50 years old . And one of the reasons if U look back to me posting is to pick brains and see what guys are doing . U are the second guy to say drop the masteron because it almost mimic”s primo. So to be honest I will more then likely do that . I know guys who do 250mgs of sus and could crush an upper level amateur show . Then I know guys who go way above and beyond what I do and they look completely natural and not in a good way . We all react differently… but I am here for advice, and opinions. Like I said I am never to old to learn
True! I wanna know what a gaining mass cycles looks like formyou fnhuge
Test, deca , then switch out the deca for Npp
And not high dose 200 test x 3 a week and deca 200 x 3 a week
Cool man. Well I’m not one with a lot of experience in advanced cycling but my comments prior on the compounds I think are solid. @iron_yuppie May have some different advice. I don’t believe he uses advanced dosages either but has a sound knowledge of compounds and stacking.
Are those 8 to 12 week cycles? How many weeks off?
Or, considering your proposed summer cycle, might those be “cruising”?
Ok, so:
900mg EQ
700mg Mast
Unless you plan on running double the amount of test I cannot imagine you not getting a shitload of low e2 sides from that combo. Mast is excellent at masking e2 effects and EQ basically crashes e2 without enough test in the mix. Now add in 1,400mg of primo and you’re just begging for trouble.
Beyond that, if you’re running 4,250mg of gear a week and your goal is to lose weight then this qualifies as going full retard. You want to lose eight pounds and tighten up? You could get exactly what you’re looking for with trt test and mast at like 400/w. Hell, right now I’m trying to lose 10lbs (which is a higher percentage of my bw relative to yours) and I’m doing it on trt and a good diet. That’s it. That’s all it takes for 99% of guys who lift. You’re not competing so why even bother taking pro-level amounts of gear?
Unless your bf is sub 10% right now this is probably the worst plan that’s ever been posted on here, and my man that is saying a lot.
Wow worst ever!!! Ok that says a lot guess I have some thinking to do . And look back at my previous post on that cycle I can and do drop 10 poinds
So if u had access to those compounds or others what would u do ??
Why no HGH?? You can surely afford it.
You want to get a leaner look, so why not add clenbuterol? Clenbuterol was a must have for me if I was wanting to hit the stage with the least fat.
I would just do Test / EQ or Test / Primo. I would cut first, and use the cycle to bring back muscle, and hopefully surpass the muscle I had before the cut (now with less fat).
Is this worth it though? The price tag is absolutely enormous.
Not asking for me, I’m just genuinely curious.
Test/Primo or test/mast and enjoy a relatively side effect free cycle. If all you’re doing is going from 240 to 232 you cannot possibly need anything more than that. Steroids are really good at building muscle. High dose cycles are for addition, not subtraction.
And I second HGH. At 50 you’ll get more out of GH than you will get out of anything else (aside from trt). Save your cash by skipping most of what you laid out and go 24 weeks of GH + 20 weeks of test/primo or test/mast. You’ll feel significantly better and you’ll get where you want to go more easily.
Its actually not that bad. I would say it IS worth it especially for a 50 year old. You’re looking at $1.50-2 per iu. Running 4-6 a day you can do the math but its not that bad. All together subjective of course.