I decided to have a quick, informal session here. I have about 3-4 hours of time to answer questions you may have. I’ll try to do this every once in a while.
Cy-Borg,
Great to see you on the boards!
My boyfriend wants to know about dutasteride. What’s the scoop?
Thanks!
[quote]Cy Willson wrote:
I decided to have a quick, informal session here. I have about 3-4 hours of time to answer questions you may have. I’ll try to do this every once in a while.[/quote]
Any opinons on inyectable yohimbine or inyectable l-carnitine for weight loss?
Your ideas and opinions have been of great help to me.
Do you know of anybody hiring P2’s right now?
lol
Cy,
I followed the Steroid Dieting protocol to prep for my last contest (won 1st place master division). Didn’t follow it exactly to the letter, but here is what I did:
Starting @ 6 weeks out…
1 cc Sustanon 250/week
1 - 50mg Oral Winstrol Tablet ED
20 mg Reforvit-B EOD
1 cc 75 mg Trenbolone Acetate ED
50 mg Clomid ED
My results were outstanding!
For my next contest, I want to change the cycle a bit, but still run a 6 weeker. I want to do the following:
1 cc Sustanon 250/week
1 - 75mg Oral Winstrol Tablet ED
20 mg Reforvit-B ED
1 cc 75 mg Trenbolone Acetate ED
30 mg Oxandrolone ED
20 mg Nolvadex ED
0.25 mg Adimidex ED
Finally, I am thinking of dropping one A-bomb per day for the last 10 days.
What do you think? I am concerned about the load on my liver because of the orals.
Any other comments/suggestions would be more than welcome.
Thanks, TenMan
[quote]Lexie wrote:
Cy-Borg,
Great to see you on the boards!
My boyfriend wants to know about dutasteride. What’s the scoop?
Thanks![/quote]
Dutasteride is really just going a step further than finasteride. That being it works to inhibit two isoeyzmes (5 alpha-reductase type I and II). It’s superior, in my opinion for that exact reason.
Was wondering about your thoughts on two things:
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Digestive enzymes: What is your opinion on there effectivness when it comes to protein/fat digestion?(and the subsequent gastric problems associated w/ a high protein intake) I can’t seem to find many studies on there effectiveness and they are pretty pricey. Been looking to give them a go as this gas is getting pretty dangerous…
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Nootropics on a budget: I have been looking into putting together a custom nootropic blend to help me focus when studying and in the gym but I am pretty strapped for cash(university will do that to a person I guess). Do you have any reccomendations as to what nootropics will give me the best bang for my buck?
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I don’t know if there is your thing so I apologize if this question is off base. Is there any difference between the different brands of vitamins/minerals? IE is a product from USANA of LEF that much better then a product from GNC?
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Have you heard of the compound Sesamin? If so what are your opinions on its usefulness as far as general health and body composition goes.
[quote]orangutanjuanj wrote:
Cy Willson wrote:
I decided to have a quick, informal session here. I have about 3-4 hours of time to answer questions you may have. I’ll try to do this every once in a while.
Any opinons on inyectable yohimbine or inyectable l-carnitine for weight loss?
Your ideas and opinions have been of great help to me.
[/quote]
I’ve gone over the injectable carnitine previously in my column. As for the yohimbine, you can inject it, but I fail to see the point when you can simply ingest it.
[quote]Brad Johnson wrote:
Do you know of anybody hiring P2’s right now?
lol[/quote]
Kmart and Walgreens, Brad. Seriously, shouldn’t you be in the lab?! 
[quote]TenMan wrote:
Cy,
I followed the Steroid Dieting protocol to prep for my last contest (won 1st place master division). Didn’t follow it exactly to the letter, but here is what I did:
Starting @ 6 weeks out…
1 cc Sustanon 250/week
1 - 50mg Oral Winstrol Tablet ED
20 mg Reforvit-B EOD
1 cc 75 mg Trenbolone Acetate ED
50 mg Clomid ED
My results were outstanding!
For my next contest, I want to change the cycle a bit, but still run a 6 weeker. I want to do the following:
1 cc Sustanon 250/week
1 - 75mg Oral Winstrol Tablet ED
20 mg Reforvit-B ED
1 cc 75 mg Trenbolone Acetate ED
30 mg Oxandrolone ED
20 mg Nolvadex ED
0.25 mg Adimidex ED
Finally, I am thinking of dropping one A-bomb per day for the last 10 days.
What do you think? I am concerned about the load on my liver because of the orals.
Any other comments/suggestions would be more than welcome.
Thanks, TenMan
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You don’t have to use an aromatase inhibitor and an estrogen antagonist concurrently. Other than that, I wouldn’t be concerned about using alkylated androgens for only 6 weeks. I’ve gone over this in the Steroids for Health article. The hepatotoxicity from alkylated androgens has been overstated.
Cy,
One more question please.
Is a combination of Vitamin B-6 (300 mg/day) + 1 gram of Vitex ED as effective as Bromocriptine in preventing Progesterone induced gyno?
I was thinking of putting together a stack of Test, Deca, and Tren but I read (on another BB) that combining Tren and Deca is a sure-fire recipe for Progesterone induced gyno.
Any thoughts on this?
Thanks, TenMan
[quote]blam wrote:
Was wondering about your thoughts on two things:
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Digestive enzymes: What is your opinion on there effectivness when it comes to protein/fat digestion?(and the subsequent gastric problems associated w/ a high protein intake) I can’t seem to find many studies on there effectiveness and they are pretty pricey. Been looking to give them a go as this gas is getting pretty dangerous…
-
Nootropics on a budget: I have been looking into putting together a custom nootropic blend to help me focus when studying and in the gym but I am pretty strapped for cash(university will do that to a person I guess). Do you have any reccomendations as to what nootropics will give me the best bang for my buck?
-
I don’t know if there is your thing so I apologize if this question is off base. Is there any difference between the different brands of vitamins/minerals? IE is a product from USANA of LEF that much better then a product from GNC?
-
Have you heard of the compound Sesamin? If so what are your opinions on its usefulness as far as general health and body composition goes.[/quote]
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Never really looked in to them much. Although, I thought John Berardi and maybe Lonnie Lowery were in favor of their use. I think they’re both smart guys so give it a try. I have found that all too often, people confuse a high protein intake for gastric problems when in reality, it’s simply the fact that they are consuming too much lactose. You have to remember that the vast majority of the adult population is lactose intolerant to some extent. I recommend using lactase (Lactaid)
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Ginko biloba, DMAE, tyrosine, phosphatidylcholine, vinpocetine and plenty of fruits and veggies. Oh, 5-6 grams of DHA/EPA per day is beneficial as well.
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I don’t know about either brand, sorry. I will say that one would benefit from having a supplement which has certain vitamins and minerals apart from one another.
4)Yes, and from what I read it was a PPAR alpha agonist. My problem with such compounds is the idea that compounds which have such great activity in rodents haven’t been very successful in humans. You also have to understand that if it truly did work, you wouldn’t really want that as the occurrence of tumors and such would be greatly increased. This is why I get so frustrated when people take animal data and extrapolate across species. The fact is that rodents have more PPAR alpha receptors and more importantly, which genes are activated by PPAR alpha agonists vary from species to species.
Hey Cy,
I was wondering if you’ve had any experience or input on lipostabil? Also, What is your ideal cycle for gaining strength with minimal size, say you can gain 5lbs but you just wanna get STRONG. Training and diet would be in order of course.
Thx
[quote]TenMan wrote:
Cy,
One more question please.
Is a combination of Vitamin B-6 (300 mg/day) + 1 gram of Vitex ED as effective as Bromocriptine in preventing Progesterone induced gyno?
I was thinking of putting together a stack of Test, Deca, and Tren but I read (on another BB) that combining Tren and Deca is a sure-fire recipe for Progesterone induced gyno.
Any thoughts on this?
Thanks, TenMan
TenMan,
Bromocriptine decreases prolactin. It’s prolactin, not progesterone. All too often, I’ve seen people on other message boards confuse the PRL in the literature for progesterone. Anyhow, vitex has shown some D2 agonist activity so I suppose it could be used in place of bromocriptine to suppress prolactin, not progesterone. The people taking bromocriptine will still get gynecomastia from progestational androgens. Again, I really thought people on other boards had figured it out. A D2 agonist decreases prolactin, hence the idea behind using bromocriptine (a D2 agonist)
Using nandrolone and trebolone concurrently wouldn’t be something I recommend doing. Stick with the trenbolone instead.
Hope this helps!
HI Again Cy,
I was wondering what steroid or pro-steroids I could use to bridge.
I know you said 4ADec was possible, and Dbol in the morning only with an anti E.
Are there any others…There are quite a few new methylated compounds and I’m wondering if any of them would be minimally suppressive so an athlete could use them between ‘stronger’ cycles.
Also, have you ever heard of anyone using nolvadex or arimidex and still getting gyno.
thx again
[quote]Scrappy wrote:
Hey Cy,
I was wondering if you’ve had any experience or input on lipostabil? Also, What is your ideal cycle for gaining strength with minimal size, say you can gain 5lbs but you just wanna get STRONG. Training and diet would be in order of courst.
Thx[/quote]
I went over it in a previous column. I’ll look for it. Here it is: http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=460333
As for gaining strength, with little size, well, I suppose using something like trenbolone or fluoxymesterone. Perhaps even stanozolol alone. The more important factor is your diet as the fact that you’re using androgens which possess a strong nutrient partitioning effect puts you at an immediate disadvantage considering your goal is NOT to gain weight. Pick one of those androgens and follow a hypocaloric diet. That’s my best advice. I know of cases where someone consumed nothing but 800-900 cal/day, and reduced fat mass while gainining muscle over about a 6 week period…body weight only changed by .2 lb. That just illustrates how powerful androgens are in that aspect.
[quote]Scrappy wrote:
HI Again Cy,
I was wondering what steroid or pro-steroids I could use to bridge.
I know you said 4ADec was possible, and Dbol in the morning only with an anti E.
Are there any others…There are quite a few new methylated compounds and I’m wondering if any of them would be minimally suppressive so an athlete could use them between ‘stronger’ cycles.
Also, have you ever heard of anyone using nolvadex or arimidex and still getting gyno.
thx again[/quote]
I’ve never advocated a “bridge.” I’ve advised people to use a small amount of testosterone and either an aromatase inhibitor and estrogen antagonist concurenly for the first few weeks post-cycle, but nothing that I’d consider a bridge. Along those lines, as I’ve said time and time again, only testosterone can be used as I lack data on other compounds and so forth…I’ve explained all of this in my columns which I’m starting to wonder if people even read!
As far as gynecomastia even if using tamoxifen or clomiphene, yes you can still get gyno, and that would stem from non estrogen-mediated gyno. This is from Q/A number 19 on my Juicer SAT’s article:
- Gyno is the development of breast tissue in males. In most cases, it’s estrogen-mediated but in some cases progesterone-mediated. GH/IGF-1 and prolactin also seem to play a role in the enlargement of the glandular portion of the breast (proliferation of ductules and stroma).
Hope that helped
Thanks,
I probably shouldn’t have used the word bridge. I meant more of a long term cycle like the one described in your article on long term use.
The real question is are any of the pro hormones minimally suppressive and I guess the answer is there isn’t enough research on them.
[quote]Scrappy wrote:
Thanks,
I probably shouldn’t have used the word bridge. I meant more of a long term cycle like the one described in your article on long term use.
The real question is are any of the pro hormones minimally suppressive and I think guess the answer is there isn’t enough research on them.[/quote]
Scrappy,
Gotcha. Actually, there are of course androgens which are more or less suppressive than others. You already answered your question there as 4-AD-EC is one of the best in that aspect. The key is to evaluate its’ activity at the ER, AR and PR…and technically at the testicular level as well. Anyhow, yes, there’s not enough data to conclusively say that every androgen possesses an exact amount of suppression as compared to another but with the data we do have, we can draw certain conclusions as to which are probably more or less suppressive.
If I didn’t answer anyone else’s question thoroughly enough just ask again.
Cy -
How do I get game like yours? I see you with a different hottie almost everytime I see you. What is the secret? You are so buff. I guess if I was a chick I’d be all over you too…
Jason