I’ve got to get cracking on a cutting program too. Cruise coming up in July and there’s just way too much of me.
I’m 5’9" ,36 years old, 218 lbs and measured (caliper tests) at 17% BF about a year ago. I’ve probably put on 10 - 15 pounds since then and it appears to be mostly muscle.
Question about the inch measurements listed here though… Take biceps for example, do you measure resting or flexed? Pumped from a workout or first thing in the morning?
[quote]Jimmy T wrote:
grey wrote:
just got back from Brussels.
Boy did I miss my workouts.
I hate when that happens.
Going to Italy on wednesday for a ski trip.
You can bet your ass that the first thing I do is find a decent gym.
If I can’t find a gym there I will have to get my workouts from flipping fiats over on their side.
I remember in Toronto a million years ago my brother and I lift bounced a porsche that was blocking us out of the way.
I can imagine the look on the face of the owner when he came and found his locked car 10 feet away from where he left it and on the curb…those were the days…
Grey,
Welcome home!Have a nice trip! hehehe
I tried your carb loading advice after I made weight,worked great.Thanks
Jimmy T TRAIN HARD!
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Thanks Jimmy. Just got back from Italy and the snow was fine. The diet was way off but that’s to be expected. You can’t be on the slopes all day and expect to count calories…especially in italy with all those fine wines and dishes that accompany them.
Back on the clock as of tomorrow.
[quote]vroom wrote:
Grey,
Two more weeks, just to see if I can pop my weight up over 230, then I’ll slowly transition to the cutting bandwagon.
I’m even picking up one of those micro scales this evening so I can measure my food intake to the gram if necessary…
Anyway, seriously, t-shirt weather doesn’t even start until June up here, so I’ve got plenty of time even without the big dietary guns.[/quote]
What you mean you don’t walk around in a t-shirt in April, freezing your nuts off but looking big? haha.
I lived in TO and june is well into summer.
How much weight (fat) do you want to lose? 230 is a pretty respectable weight if your in the mid teens bf.
[quote]Chris_R wrote:
I’ve got to get cracking on a cutting program too. Cruise coming up in July and there’s just way too much of me.
I’m 5’9" ,36 years old, 218 lbs and measured (caliper tests) at 17% BF about a year ago. I’ve probably put on 10 - 15 pounds since then and it appears to be mostly muscle.
Question about the inch measurements listed here though… Take biceps for example, do you measure resting or flexed? Pumped from a workout or first thing in the morning? [/quote]
Flexed and after a workout but not an arm specific one.
Seriously, how do y’all measure legs? Is it at the widest? In that case my legs must be WAY bigger than the average for my overall size cause my legs are 23,5-24 at the widest and I’m 165 at 14-15% bf. Someone explain this to me, I’m not a bosybuilder so I’m sure I got something wrong.
Grey, sounds like you had a blast.
Anyway, I’m looking at dropping about 15 pounds of fat, maybe a bit more than that. I’ve never had a six-pack in this lifetime and my goal isn’t to get there for summer.
In the unlikely event that things move along faster and easier than expected, I’d be willing to change my goals.
Good to have you back home bro.Going to the gym at 2:OOp.m.to hit back and biceps.TRAIN HARD!Jimmy T
[quote]vroom wrote:
How much weight (fat) do you want to lose? 230 is a pretty respectable weight if your in the mid teens bf.
Grey, sounds like you had a blast.
Anyway, I’m looking at dropping about 15 pounds of fat, maybe a bit more than that. I’ve never had a six-pack in this lifetime and my goal isn’t to get there for summer.
In the unlikely event that things move along faster and easier than expected, I’d be willing to change my goals.[/quote]
Why limit yourself? Strive for the top and if you do not succeed at least you can say you tried.
Setting low goals will give you lower results.
My 2cents.
Grey,
I see your logic.
However, I’ll raise you my psychology.
If I set a high goal and miss it by any amount, I’ll be disappointed.
If I set a low goal and surpass it, I’ll be ecstatic.
So, theoretically the same results could either bring me happiness or frustration, at my own choosing.
I do plan on setting higher goals later…
[quote]vroom wrote:
Grey,
I see your logic.
However, I’ll raise you my psychology.
If I set a high goal and miss it by any amount, I’ll be disappointed.
If I set a low goal and surpass it, I’ll be ecstatic.
So, theoretically the same results could either bring me happiness or frustration, at my own choosing.
I do plan on setting higher goals later… [/quote]
That sounds like the biggest load of shit I have ever heard. We should always strive for perfection…anything less is pointless.
I do not accept your answer.
Sorry you are not that pathetic vroom.
[quote]That sounds like the biggest load of shit I have ever heard. We should always strive for perfection…anything less is pointless.
I do not accept your answer.
Sorry you are not that pathetic vroom. [/quote]
Ahahaha.
You are going to have to accept the difference between goals of varying length.
Do I want to get there? Sure. Am I going to dump muscle to get there this summer? No. Am I accepting any overall limitations? No.
I do appreciate the motivational attempt though!
Vroom,
The new avatar is you!I dig it.
Grey,
How is your training going?I bet it feels good to be back at it.I’m keeping my weight at 185 for the rest of my power cycle.Strength is up and workouts are awesome.TRAIN HARD! Jimmy T
[quote]grey wrote:
Since I recieved a couple of pm’s in respect to my idea of starting a cutting progress thread for the “over 35” crowd I will start with my stats and goals.
If anyone wants to join that’s more than cool.
My starting stats are…
Height 6’1"
Weight 225
waist 36 inches
bi’s right 17.5 left 18.25
thighs left 26.5
right 26
calves 16.5 left and 16.25 right.(gotta work on those suckers.)
Neck 18 inches,
Chest 48 inches.
Bodyfat a heinous 15% (probably closer to 16)
Goals…3 months…
height the same
weight 200 - 205
arms the same (in my dreams)
legs bigger (am I on drugs?)
chest the same (doable)
Calves can only get bigger…duh.
Waist…33. (doable).
Neck…who fuckin cares.
Diet will be low carb with the regular
high protein and moderate fat.
Of course I will adjust to suit my progress.
I do not want to look like a heinous morphodite when summer comes calling…do you?
[/quote]
Hey Grey
I just got done reading everybodys comments on this thread, and I liked what I read. I hope that you don’t mind if I ask you and everybody else on this thread a few questions?
I am 6’1" in 39 years old and I have lost 22 lbs, from 227 to 205, and went from a 36" waist to a 34" in the past year. (LOL this is all due to my recent divorce). I now have a lot of energy that I needed to focus so I have just started working out Chad Waterbury’s 3 times a week routine. I have very limited equipment to use due to where I work. I have 700lbs of bumbells and a bench.
My question to you is any suggestions on workout excercises that I can do with just dumbells and a bench? I have come up with some that I will use in Waterbury’s routine, but I would like to have a few more to vary my routine so I am not just doing the same excercises over and over agian.
My diet is fairly good lots of fresh salmon and wildgame, one nice thing about living in Alaska. But I was wondering about what kind of supplements to use?
Thanks for any help. I hope that you don’t mind if I tag along on this thread.
Devildog
[quote]TQB wrote:
Hepatitis worked for me;-([/quote]
You too? I got a bout and lost 10 pounds, was thinking of bottling for use as a weight loss drug, aside from the cramps you have energy and don’t eat a thing for a week!
[quote]devildog wrote:
grey wrote:
Since I recieved a couple of pm’s in respect to my idea of starting a cutting progress thread for the “over 35” crowd I will start with my stats and goals.
If anyone wants to join that’s more than cool.
My starting stats are…
Height 6’1"
Weight 225
waist 36 inches
bi’s right 17.5 left 18.25
thighs left 26.5
right 26
calves 16.5 left and 16.25 right.(gotta work on those suckers.)
Neck 18 inches,
Chest 48 inches.
Bodyfat a heinous 15% (probably closer to 16)
Goals…3 months…
height the same
weight 200 - 205
arms the same (in my dreams)
legs bigger (am I on drugs?)
chest the same (doable)
Calves can only get bigger…duh.
Waist…33. (doable).
Neck…who fuckin cares.
Diet will be low carb with the regular
high protein and moderate fat.
Of course I will adjust to suit my progress.
I do not want to look like a heinous morphodite when summer comes calling…do you?
Hey Grey
I just got done reading everybodys comments on this thread, and I liked what I read. I hope that you don’t mind if I ask you and everybody else on this thread a few questions?
I am 6’1" in 39 years old and I have lost 22 lbs, from 227 to 205, and went from a 36" waist to a 34" in the past year. (LOL this is all due to my recent divorce). I now have a lot of energy that I needed to focus so I have just started working out Chad Waterbury’s 3 times a week routine. I have very limited equipment to use due to where I work. I have 700lbs of bumbells and a bench.
My question to you is any suggestions on workout excercises that I can do with just dumbells and a bench? I have come up with some that I will use in Waterbury’s routine, but I would like to have a few more to vary my routine so I am not just doing the same excercises over and over agian.
My diet is fairly good lots of fresh salmon and wildgame, one nice thing about living in Alaska. But I was wondering about what kind of supplements to use?
Thanks for any help. I hope that you don’t mind if I tag along on this thread.
Devildog[/quote]
Good to hear you Devildog.
We will all be happy to have you post here. Having only a bench and dumbells does not present too many problems for upper body workouts.
Chest is no trouble because (I’m assuming your bench is adjustable) you can hit pecs from all angles with a pair of dumbells. That’s an easy one.
Also a good chest excersise is back on bench in a bridge position with a straight arm single dumbell two hand extension behind the head as far as you can go making sure you drop your rear as low as you can to the floor when the weight is at it’s lowest on the opposite side of the bench. Super stretch and stretch and grow go together we all know.
Triceps; lying on back tricep extensions.
dips on bench with legs up on a chair and weight on thighs.
seated overhead behind the head tricep extensions.
The infamous kickbacks.
Back is a bit more difficult. You can do one arm rows hitting different parts of the back using varying starting and finishing positions. Closer to the chest as opposed to closer to the hip.
You have got to find yourself a chin up bar…that will be a big help for back as well as bi’s.
Incline bench dumbell rows…flat bench dumbell rows (you will have to find a way to raise the bench off the floor so as to get a good stretch) .
Shoulders are also a very easy one.
Flies, presses, arnold presses, front alternating raises, rear delt seated and bent over flies etc. etc.
Biceps are also a no-brainer. hammer curls, alternating db curls, with a twist without a twist, concentration curls with elbow on the knee, 21s, etc. etc.
Traps you have your db shrugs.
Legs? Hmmm. Not an easy one. Lunges will be your friend here.
Stiff legged deads. Squatting will be a bitch but holding a heavy dumbell in each hand you can get a pretty decent workout. Use straps because you don’t want your gripstrength to be the determining factor for your leg workout.
You could also try holding them at shoulder height if you find them getting in your way. Depends on the width of your stance. Like I said…not easy but It will definately make you strong and super balanced using dumbells.
You will also experience an increased ROM stretch and flexibility.
Thats just off the top of my head for now. I’m sure i missed a lot of stuff.
The other guys should help out as well.
Good luck and tell us how it goes.
Losing a bit of size. At least thats what it feels like. I’m pretty flat and the weight is around 218. Doing an 8x8 routine with 30 second rest. It’s Killer Bee.
Keeping the carbs low. I’m not going to sweat the size. Ive always argued that a 17inch lean arm looks better than an 18 inch fat one…hell even a 19inch fat one.
Especially if the fat arm is attached to a thick waist and the 17inch arm is attached to a 33 inch waist.
It’s all about proportions.
I’m going to practice what i preach.
I’m hoping my size doesn’t drop that much .
[quote]grey wrote:
devildog wrote:
grey wrote:
Since I recieved a couple of pm’s in respect to my idea of starting a cutting progress thread for the “over 35” crowd I will start with my stats and goals.
If anyone wants to join that’s more than cool.
My starting stats are…
Height 6’1"
Weight 225
waist 36 inches
bi’s right 17.5 left 18.25
thighs left 26.5
right 26
calves 16.5 left and 16.25 right.(gotta work on those suckers.)
Neck 18 inches,
Chest 48 inches.
Bodyfat a heinous 15% (probably closer to 16)
Goals…3 months…
height the same
weight 200 - 205
arms the same (in my dreams)
legs bigger (am I on drugs?)
chest the same (doable)
Calves can only get bigger…duh.
Waist…33. (doable).
Neck…who fuckin cares.
Diet will be low carb with the regular
high protein and moderate fat.
Of course I will adjust to suit my progress.
I do not want to look like a heinous morphodite when summer comes calling…do you?
Hey Grey
I just got done reading everybodys comments on this thread, and I liked what I read. I hope that you don’t mind if I ask you and everybody else on this thread a few questions?
I am 6’1" in 39 years old and I have lost 22 lbs, from 227 to 205, and went from a 36" waist to a 34" in the past year. (LOL this is all due to my recent divorce). I now have a lot of energy that I needed to focus so I have just started working out Chad Waterbury’s 3 times a week routine. I have very limited equipment to use due to where I work. I have 700lbs of bumbells and a bench.
My question to you is any suggestions on workout excercises that I can do with just dumbells and a bench? I have come up with some that I will use in Waterbury’s routine, but I would like to have a few more to vary my routine so I am not just doing the same excercises over and over agian.
My diet is fairly good lots of fresh salmon and wildgame, one nice thing about living in Alaska. But I was wondering about what kind of supplements to use?
Thanks for any help. I hope that you don’t mind if I tag along on this thread.
Devildog
Good to hear you Devildog.
We will all be happy to have you post here. Having only a bench and dumbells does not present too many problems for upper body workouts.
Chest is no trouble because (I’m assuming your bench is adjustable) you can hit pecs from all angles with a pair of dumbells. That’s an easy one.
Also a good chest excersise is back on bench in a bridge position with a straight arm single dumbell two hand extension behind the head as far as you can go making sure you drop your rear as low as you can to the floor when the weight is at it’s lowest on the opposite side of the bench. Super stretch and stretch and grow go together we all know.
Triceps; lying on back tricep extensions.
dips on bench with legs up on a chair and weight on thighs.
seated overhead behind the head tricep extensions.
The infamous kickbacks.
Back is a bit more difficult. You can do one arm rows hitting different parts of the back using varying starting and finishing positions. Closer to the chest as opposed to closer to the hip.
You have got to find yourself a chin up bar…that will be a big help for back as well as bi’s.
Incline bench dumbell rows…flat bench dumbell rows (you will have to find a way to raise the bench off the floor so as to get a good stretch) .
Shoulders are also a very easy one.
Flies, presses, arnold presses, front alternating raises, rear delt seated and bent over flies etc. etc.
Biceps are also a no-brainer. hammer curls, alternating db curls, with a twist without a twist, concentration curls with elbow on the knee, 21s, etc. etc.
Traps you have your db shrugs.
Legs? Hmmm. Not an easy one. Lunges will be your friend here.
Stiff legged deads. Squatting will be a bitch but holding a heavy dumbell in each hand you can get a pretty decent workout. Use straps because you don’t want your gripstrength to be the determining factor for your leg workout.
You could also try holding them at shoulder height if you find them getting in your way. Depends on the width of your stance. Like I said…not easy but It will definately make you strong and super balanced using dumbells.
You will also experience an increased ROM stretch and flexibility.
Thats just off the top of my head for now. I’m sure i missed a lot of stuff.
The other guys should help out as well.
Good luck and tell us how it goes.
[/quote]
Thanks for all of the info and I will put it to good use. I will keep you all informed on my progress. LOL all I can say now is I started Monday and oh sore muscles. (but that feels good)
Boy did I ever lose too much too quickly this week. I was down to 211 by Saturday morning. Yea fat is melting off but I’m losing too much damn lbm.
So I had a good refeed on Saturday and now I’m back up to about 216 but feeling much better. Was getting pretty shaky even though I ate enough protein.
Now it’s Sunday morning and Ive had my coffee and it’s time to hit shoulders.
I think I’m gonna eat more carbs to-day and start depleting again tommorow.
I think that it’s a combination of 8x8 with short rest periods (30 seconds) and the incline 30 minute treadmill in the evening that is burning me a bit too fast.
I think I’m gonna cut out some evening cardio and see what happens.
6 pounds in one week is way too much.
Just had my Sunday breakfast.
4 hardboiled eggs. A medium peice of broccoli. 6 oz. of lean ground beef.
To top it all off I had 2 oz. of beluga caviar. Since i live where I live it’s relatively inexpensive and I get it through a friend for 240 dollars per half kilo. It’s a treat once in a while. The problem is my older daughter hogged half of it in one meal when we were out a couple of days ago.
The cut is starting to show results but I have to turn it up for the last 6 weeks.
8x8 is definately not for the weak of heart. Will wait another hour and hit chest and shoulders.
Incline bench and then military presses…or maybe some lateral raises. Not sure until after I finish chest.
Decisions, decisions.
I did the lat raises…killer bee.