Cutting Cycle Help?

Pharma / TRT
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I start my cutting cycle on the 1st of September. now its almost . 2 months and 1 month to go. I was 20 %body fat percentage and now 14% (whole-body ) abs -13.1% ’
here is my cycle’

Tren A- 0.7 eod
Test P-1Ml eod
Anavar -30MG every day - run a 5 weeks
Masteron-1ml eod

Now I got decent results my weight was 83KGS (182lbs) and now 77kg( 168lbs) after 2 months, my waist size was 36" and now its 32"

My question is I can feel and see 6 pack very lightly, but I wantt to get 8% bodyfat, so is it ok to add clen or Winstrol from now for 4 weeks to get more ripped?

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If you can’t get to 8%bf on tren, test, var and mast then you’re doing something wrong. Adding clen+winny (unless competing) is idiotic, people take waaayyy too much shit these days. While I don’t entirely agree with the saying minimum effective dose (as one can theoretically gain significant amounts on 200mg over time, it isn’t what one would look for in a cycle), however there’s a perceived benefit/risk ratio. Many can get to 4%BF briefly natty (for a comp), and you can’t get to 8% whilst on a cocktail of drugs including trenbolone… legitimately one of the harshest and effective AAS known to humankind.

For gods sake man, work on you’re diet and training, I don’t usually get irritated but posts like these are becoming all too common. Complete disregard for ANY risk to health, wanting to add clenbuterol (beta 2 agonist) and Stanozolol on top of oxandrolone, Drostanolone, testosterone and trenbolone JUST to cut some BF%… and you’re 168lbs, unless you’re 5’5 or below, such stats don’t justify tren (in my opinion, otherwise I’d be on tren, mast, test, anavar etc)

I’m 5’5, 17%, 164lbs… the most gear I’ve ever used is what I’m using currently, 250mg test 100mg mast/wk, with incremental dbol at 5 days on 14 days off at 20mg/day (and only using for 16 days total). I’m not “big” or “huge” at all, but I’m making a point here… I’m not on tren, winny, test, var, mast etc and my total dosages (aside from the incremental dbol at times) is 350mg/wk (which I consider high), and I’m only using 350mg/wk for a total of 5-6 wks before dropping to 250mg, then down to TRT dosage. You on the other hand, at 168lbs mind you, are on 350mg test prop/wk, 245mg tren/wk (equiv to 1225mg testosterone acetate within relation to potency), 350mg mast, 210mg anavar/wk (300mg equiv if anavar was somehow medium ester like enanathate). So lets say you’re on, counting minimum mg/wk

1155mg/wk, if we are considering things the unreal24278 way in that not all gear is created equal, I’d say 350+1125+275 (mast is considerably weaker in terms of anabolic/androgenic potency comparative to testosterone) + 210 (I’ll give leeway here although anavar mg/mg is certainly more potent than test, if one looks at actual literature, gains in pure LBM are equiv when comparing 600mg test and 140mg var/day, keep in mind this is pharm grade var) so we have 1960mg test equiv or so… WHAT

actually perhaps I’m being a little big judgemental, however you should be aware you’re regiment for the goals you require is ludicrous. How old are you? If you’re a model or you’re profession counts on this I’d understand (or in general if you were much larger, unless you’re like 5’5 or below then never mind)

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I mean even tren alone will recomp the shit out of you. You certainly don’t need anything else. If your diet is in check, you will shed fast

As a powerlifter aiming for the lowest weight class, I am having a dam hard time trying to maintain fullness on tren. Tren literally chews everything up. It’s great that I don’t have to full on diet yet to make weight. The reason why being flat is a drawback is because it really effects leverages, especially bench and squat.

The recomp is nice. But dam, getting my energy balance where i need it is proving pretty tough on tren haha

I agree with you though. As long as you are not being an idiot with your diet, tren will easily rip you up. Just don’t expect size

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Sounds like you need to hit McDonald’s a few times🤣

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I’m starting to understand why people on tren actually do this.

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are you referring to insomnia? If one could thoretically be forced to eat on tren, size gains would occur. I guarantee you if I took 100mg-150mg tren/wk and ate at maintenanc/slightly above on TRT I’d put on 5+lbs of lbm in 10 wks… that being said I’m never going to use trenbolone as there is no reason for me to take such a compound, that and the neurological side effects scare me. The change in demeanour I see in people using tren is enough to put me off entirely, and many seem to suddenly not care about the changes that occur.

A few months back I was in gym and I asked some dude (tall guy, like 6’6 and fairly muscular) “can I use this machine” as there was a water bottle next too the machine and he says “yea mate, the guy using it has been gone for twenty minutes”… so I start using it and this massive, shredded bodybuilder waddles over and starts getting aggro with me, I’m not wishing to start a physical altercation in my gym (note, intimidation isn’t a factor here, I know how to defend myself, seven years of martial arts training, a lifetime of bullying and a year of boxing took care of that… I’m just not stupid enough to risk the consequences over some guy being a dickhead).

So I just say “sorry mate, I wasn’t aware you were using this” and he responds “my fucking WATER BOTTLE IS THERE, why else would a water bottle that isn’t yours be there” and said “alright, sorry mate, it won’t happen again”, after which the tall guy comes over and starts defending me saying like “who do you think you are, this gym isn’t yours, you weren’t using that for ages, get stuffed” I say “guys, it’s alright, don’t worry about it” and they continue arguing so I’m waddling out of the arena to avoid any further issues, but it made me think “this guy is most CERTAINLY taking one too many trenbologne sandwiches”, perhaps he was an asshole before, but how he’s a gaping asshole

Eventually the two shake hands, then the guy apologises to me like an hour later and I’m like “it’s fine mate, don’t worry about it” or something like that… this was 3-5 months ago

How long are you on tren for? It’s a harsh, harsh compound… You don’t want to be using tren for prolonged periods of time. Kidneys, heart, neurology will suffer… regardless of how good you’re genetics are. Tren should be used as a boost prior to meets/competitions if used at all, cruising on tren is just dumb and will (likely) wreck you in the long run, unless you’re a competitive bodybuilder competing like 3-4x/year.

Get lipids, renal pannel etc done on tren and tell me it’s alright to use for prolonged periods of time…

That being said, I don’t suppose you’d be able post a pic of what you look like on tren @weightliftingwithoutlimits, perhaps one of before tren + after tren? I’m curious as to what the exact visual difference is

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Seriously dude… another guy listing volumes instead of dosage. I vote for chemical castration. Let it ride…

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Did you see the OP’s grocery list of gear he is already on? Plus asking about adding clen and winny just to help cut. He is almost at that level. I have said it before, I wish someone would invent a brain steroid that actually makes some of these people smarter.

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i agree with what has been said here.
Losing fat its just diet.
Drugs will only help you retain/build muscle while on a caloric deficit.

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So if I take half a bottle of tren eod I’ll cut weight? Or do I need to measure it out with a tblspoon?

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