Cushing Suspended for Teh Roidzz

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[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
An update that I think will interest some of you, Cushing insists that he didn’t take steroids:

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/05/08/same-old-story-cushing-insists-he-didnt-take-steroids/?ncid=txtlnkusspor00000002[/quote]

Typical ignorant fuck. This guy would have you think that taking steroids is equal to a fucking war crime, or genocide. After reading that I think “senior nfl writer” translates to “small man who failed at sports, so he had to settle for writing about them, and pointing fingers at people who get caught cheating”.

…and, you know…its not like there is any evidence it was AAS. It could have been a diuretic for all they know. Which reminds me, why the hell are diuretics a banned substance? Is something that makes me pee really gonna give me an “unfair” edge, when I play football?

Ditch this bullshit.

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[quote]mc.loaf wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]mc.loaf wrote:

[quote]HeadofState2040 wrote:

[quote]cutthoat25 wrote:
Taylor Mays is a freak too! but prolly juices as well…either way they r still damn fine athletes who just tried to recover a lil faster(or alot)[/quote]

Went to school with the guy. Never actually had a class with him, but the other football players I did have class with said he was a very big “anti-steroids guy”. My first thought after that was he’s probably taking some sort of PED then.[/quote]

I played little league on the same team as him when we were probably around 8 or 9 since we lived about four blocks apart. He fucking embarrassed everyone else on the field. I’ve seen him a couple times in our shitty neighborhood gym during the summer since he went to USC, kid is huge. His dad, Stafford, is absurdly nice though.[/quote]

Embarrassed everyone else on the field?

I guess people are just lying in wait to pounce on those in the public spotlight. Do we even know what the substance is yet?

How did he embarrass some kids from little league several years ago?[/quote]

I thought it was pretty apparent what I was saying, since everyone else understood. My point was that he’s a natural athlete who, regardless of what he puts in his body, has been a beast from day one. Seeing how hard he works and seeing the genetics he got from his dad, who is an enormous dude, only reinforce this.

But I guess if you’re determined to read it the wrong way then go for it…[/quote]

Wait, it took six people to tell me I read your post wrong PLUS you to whine about it further? I don’t even have a problem apologizing if I read you wrong (and if I did, then holy shit, I am so sorry this ruined the lives of so many of you), but the response to that is now also over the top and ridiculous.

Determined to read you wrong? Most of the people here post things just that retarded so assuming you meant that is not so over the top.

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A look into Jay Cutler fridge…

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Pat Willis FTW.

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[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Kanada wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
LOL @ the thought that football players are anywhere near the BF levels of stage ready BB’ers.

Your point is fucking retarded. 5’10" 230 stage ready and 5’10" 230 @13-15% are two VERY different things.

Fuck some of you people are so fucking deluded, no wonder my mother thinks husk fiber is steroids. I mean the genetic elite among the human race play the sport, I think it is safe to say their measurements may NOT be the best judge of if they are on anything or not.[/quote]

Right cause I’m being completely 100% serious that every 5’10 230 lbs NFL athlete is juicing. And since there is no proof that Barry Bonds did roids, we should assume that he didn’t? Don’t be a self righteous twat man, you know as well as I do that steroids are part of Pro sports, and neither of us knows exactly how widespread it is. [/quote]

What?

HE’S being “self righteous”? He’s right, comparing regular levels of body fat with stage ready bodybuilders of the same weight and acting like being that heavy alone denotes steroids use is fucking retarded.

We get it, some of you think everyone is so physically limited. Kai Greene still competed as a natural at over 225lbs in contest shape and some guy walking around at 230lbs at 15% body fat is a totally different fucking planet than being shorter and carrying that much size at sub-6% body fat on stage completely dried out.

My question is, how the hell is this not clear to people before they even make comparisons like that?

Also, anyone who is still unaware that gyno occurs naturally in more than 60% of the male population has to be a retard at this point.[/quote]

I seriously doubt anyone in the NFL outside of the bigger positions [and guys like Ron Dane, the Bus, etc…] are anywhere near 15%. I’d be willing to bet there aren’t many over 10%. Comparing Kai Greene [who’s just big for the sake of being big] with someone who’s 5’10", 220+ and runs a sub 4.5 40 makes no sense.

Pro football players are the best combination of bigger,stronger,faster as far as our species go. They’re genetically built for it. But, I’d be willing to wager that the majority of the league is on something. In a sport where it pays to be bigger,stronger,faster, why wouldn’t they?[/quote]

Dude, i think your perception of BF levels is a tad off.

I’m not saying a lot of guys aren’t probably using something. I just think as a community of like minded people, who should be at least slightly educated about PED’s we shouldn’t be rushing to judge and put down these guys like the general public.

I’m also, not say you are doing that, but a couple people in this thread are.

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[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]Airtruth wrote:

[quote]cutthoat25 wrote:

[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
I know they are different positions, but will Cushing fall off like Merriman did? Only time will tell. Either way the guy will always have the monkey on his back.[/quote]

merriman didnt fall off cause he stopped taking steroids, he started to suck after he blew his knee out…he was actually still good when he came back from his 4 game suspension. So Cush will still be a beast as long as he stays healthy[/quote]

LOL

That’s the same thing all the other ones who got caught with steroids thought.

You ever think these guys get injured alot easier when they’re not using.[/quote]

Yeah merriman was no where near the player he used to be after he got busted. Not even close (that was pre knee injury)

.greg.
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Didn’t he used to have a kickass down lineman in front of him that they lost to free agency, that he no longer has taking up his blocker?

(Honest question, I’m not 100% sure, but I thought that was the case.)

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[quote]MattyXL wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]MattyXL wrote:
I read the nfl band substances, actually skimmed…but let me get this straight, a player may get suspended, or be under scrutiny if he has sudafed in his system? shit what if he has a cold? OR a team doctor has to prescribe and over the counter drug? WTF?[/quote]

Have you ever taken the kind where you need to sign a government contract to buy?

Shit is FUCKING BANANAS. Lol, dude it is speed that dries up your sinuses.

I worked all afternoon standing up and was sweating like it was leg day. My bosses were kinda pissed, until I told them I took too much Sudafed, then they understood.

Stuff is fucking speed man.[/quote]

I had no idea.
[/quote]

Me and theuofh had different reactions, but yeah, stuff amped me up good.

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[quote]red04 wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

I seriously doubt anyone in the NFL outside of the bigger positions [and guys like Ron Dane, the Bus, etc…] are anywhere near 15%. I’d be willing to bet there aren’t many over 10%. Comparing Kai Greene [who’s just big for the sake of being big] with someone who’s 5’10", 220+ and runs a sub 4.5 40 makes no sense.

Pro football players are the best combination of bigger,stronger,faster as far as our species go. They’re genetically built for it. But, I’d be willing to wager that the majority of the league is on something. In a sport where it pays to be bigger,stronger,faster, why wouldn’t they?[/quote]

I’m not saying it means they do/don’t use, but there are plenty of non-linemen that are 12-15%(which really is far from ‘overweight’), and there’s actually plenty of linemen that are much leaner than you’d expect.

Putting up a picture of Ray Lewis tossin up a little showboat flexing(not perfect but it works). This is probably pretty indicative of most linebackers conditioning in season because they are more worried about eating a ton to recover properly and rest up during the week, not go 100% in practice every day and stay lean.

I think part of this is that shit like “Adrian Peterson is 8% bodyfat” is all over ESPN all the time, when it’s not true, and it skews the idea of how lean the entire league is.[/quote]

That’s why I said some of the bigger positions. And, have you ever seen AP shirtless? He’s pretty lean man. I’m surprised they’re not saying he’s 4% or something. I believe 8% All Day.

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NON STEROIDAL BANNED SUBSTANCE you muppets.

Some of the posts in this thread are ridiculously uneducated. Serously if you dont know shit about PED’s just dont say anything. You people say it’s not a big deal but then parrot information that you heard on fox news and actually make the problem worse.

But I guess learned something: hCG is a woman’s vitamin. Thanks for that gem.

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[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
A look into Jay Cutler fridge…

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whats that pic got to do with anything?

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[quote]Kanada wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
LOL @ the thought that football players are anywhere near the BF levels of stage ready BB’ers.

Your point is fucking retarded. 5’10" 230 stage ready and 5’10" 230 @13-15% are two VERY different things.

Fuck some of you people are so fucking deluded, no wonder my mother thinks husk fiber is steroids. I mean the genetic elite among the human race play the sport, I think it is safe to say their measurements may NOT be the best judge of if they are on anything or not.[/quote]

Right cause I’m being completely 100% serious that every 5’10 230 lbs NFL athlete is juicing. And since there is no proof that Barry Bonds did roids, we should assume that he didn’t? Don’t be a self righteous twat man, you know as well as I do that steroids are part of Pro sports, and neither of us knows exactly how widespread it is. [/quote]

You need to shut your mouth, sir.

Barry Bonds TESTED POSITIVE you nitwit. He’s on trial for lying about it, not for whether or not he used. Lying is a federal crime worth pursuing, using testosterone isn’t, thank goodness.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Kanada wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
LOL @ the thought that football players are anywhere near the BF levels of stage ready BB’ers.

Your point is fucking retarded. 5’10" 230 stage ready and 5’10" 230 @13-15% are two VERY different things.

Fuck some of you people are so fucking deluded, no wonder my mother thinks husk fiber is steroids. I mean the genetic elite among the human race play the sport, I think it is safe to say their measurements may NOT be the best judge of if they are on anything or not.[/quote]

Right cause I’m being completely 100% serious that every 5’10 230 lbs NFL athlete is juicing. And since there is no proof that Barry Bonds did roids, we should assume that he didn’t? Don’t be a self righteous twat man, you know as well as I do that steroids are part of Pro sports, and neither of us knows exactly how widespread it is. [/quote]

What?

HE’S being “self righteous”? He’s right, comparing regular levels of body fat with stage ready bodybuilders of the same weight and acting like being that heavy alone denotes steroids use is fucking retarded.

We get it, some of you think everyone is so physically limited. Kai Greene still competed as a natural at over 225lbs in contest shape and some guy walking around at 230lbs at 15% body fat is a totally different fucking planet than being shorter and carrying that much size at sub-6% body fat on stage completely dried out.

My question is, how the hell is this not clear to people before they even make comparisons like that?

Also, anyone who is still unaware that gyno occurs naturally in more than 60% of the male population has to be a retard at this point.[/quote]

I seriously doubt anyone in the NFL outside of the bigger positions [and guys like Ron Dane, the Bus, etc…] are anywhere near 15%. I’d be willing to bet there aren’t many over 10%. Comparing Kai Greene [who’s just big for the sake of being big] with someone who’s 5’10", 220+ and runs a sub 4.5 40 makes no sense.

Pro football players are the best combination of bigger,stronger,faster as far as our species go. They’re genetically built for it. But, I’d be willing to wager that the majority of the league is on something. In a sport where it pays to be bigger,stronger,faster, why wouldn’t they?[/quote]

Dude, i think your perception of BF levels is a tad off.
[/quote]

Agreed. I would assume MOST of those players are around 15% body fat. Someone weighing in excess of 220lbs at 15% is going to look relatively lean, not fat.

But why is explanation needed HERE?

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[quote]red04 wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

I seriously doubt anyone in the NFL outside of the bigger positions [and guys like Ron Dane, the Bus, etc…] are anywhere near 15%. I’d be willing to bet there aren’t many over 10%. Comparing Kai Greene [who’s just big for the sake of being big] with someone who’s 5’10", 220+ and runs a sub 4.5 40 makes no sense.

Pro football players are the best combination of bigger,stronger,faster as far as our species go. They’re genetically built for it. But, I’d be willing to wager that the majority of the league is on something. In a sport where it pays to be bigger,stronger,faster, why wouldn’t they?[/quote]

I’m not saying it means they do/don’t use, but there are plenty of non-linemen that are 12-15%(which really is far from ‘overweight’), and there’s actually plenty of linemen that are much leaner than you’d expect.

Putting up a picture of Ray Lewis tossin up a little showboat flexing(not perfect but it works). This is probably pretty indicative of most linebackers conditioning in season because they are more worried about eating a ton to recover properly and rest up during the week, not go 100% in practice every day and stay lean.

I think part of this is that shit like “Adrian Peterson is 8% bodyfat” is all over ESPN all the time, when it’s not true, and it skews the idea of how lean the entire league is.[/quote]

Ray Lewis is 250lbs not 230. If he came down to 230 he probably would be closer to 12% bodyfat, besides the fact that comparing football is difficult unless you’re going to stick to certian positions since every one requires a different type of body.
Looking at running backs, wide receivers, corners and safetys I would say most of them are between 15 and 10, with the elite ones being below, they are not going to look the same to fans of bodybuilders because they are doing a ton more cardio and their muscle bellies are not as full. When bodybuilders go on stage theres more than just bodyfat that counts in how they look, food, tan, how they flex, all those things effect what you think looks like a low bodyfat. Football players are not doing any of that so of course their bodyfat is going to look alot higher, drying out the skin alone can make you look like you dropped 3% but that doesn’t really change your actual bodyfat.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]Airtruth wrote:

[quote]cutthoat25 wrote:

[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
I know they are different positions, but will Cushing fall off like Merriman did? Only time will tell. Either way the guy will always have the monkey on his back.[/quote]

merriman didnt fall off cause he stopped taking steroids, he started to suck after he blew his knee out…he was actually still good when he came back from his 4 game suspension. So Cush will still be a beast as long as he stays healthy[/quote]

LOL

That’s the same thing all the other ones who got caught with steroids thought.

You ever think these guys get injured alot easier when they’re not using.[/quote]

Yeah merriman was no where near the player he used to be after he got busted. Not even close (that was pre knee injury)

.greg.
[/quote]

Didn’t he used to have a kickass down lineman in front of him that they lost to free agency, that he no longer has taking up his blocker?

(Honest question, I’m not 100% sure, but I thought that was the case.)[/quote]

Jamal Williams, Luis Castillo, and Igor Olshansky(sp?) were probably the three most dominant 3-4 lineman for a couple years, on par with the Patriots. Problem is, Luis also tested positive (in college), and Jamal ended up tearin his tricpes and biceps. Merriman wasn’t half the player he was without donnie edwards, shaun phillips and steve foley. Meriiman the individual was a one trick pony.

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[quote]Airtruth wrote:

[quote]red04 wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

I seriously doubt anyone in the NFL outside of the bigger positions [and guys like Ron Dane, the Bus, etc…] are anywhere near 15%. I’d be willing to bet there aren’t many over 10%. Comparing Kai Greene [who’s just big for the sake of being big] with someone who’s 5’10", 220+ and runs a sub 4.5 40 makes no sense.

Pro football players are the best combination of bigger,stronger,faster as far as our species go. They’re genetically built for it. But, I’d be willing to wager that the majority of the league is on something. In a sport where it pays to be bigger,stronger,faster, why wouldn’t they?[/quote]

I’m not saying it means they do/don’t use, but there are plenty of non-linemen that are 12-15%(which really is far from ‘overweight’), and there’s actually plenty of linemen that are much leaner than you’d expect.

Putting up a picture of Ray Lewis tossin up a little showboat flexing(not perfect but it works). This is probably pretty indicative of most linebackers conditioning in season because they are more worried about eating a ton to recover properly and rest up during the week, not go 100% in practice every day and stay lean.

I think part of this is that shit like “Adrian Peterson is 8% bodyfat” is all over ESPN all the time, when it’s not true, and it skews the idea of how lean the entire league is.[/quote]

Ray Lewis is 250lbs not 230. If he came down to 230 he probably would be closer to 12% bodyfat, besides the fact that comparing football is difficult unless you’re going to stick to certian positions since every one requires a different type of body.
Looking at running backs, wide receivers, corners and safetys I would say most of them are between 15 and 10, with the elite ones being below, they are not going to look the same to fans of bodybuilders because they are doing a ton more cardio and their muscle bellies are not as full. When bodybuilders go on stage theres more than just bodyfat that counts in how they look, food, tan, how they flex, all those things effect what you think looks like a low bodyfat. Football players are not doing any of that so of course their bodyfat is going to look alot higher, drying out the skin alone can make you look like you dropped 3% but that doesn’t really change your actual bodyfat.[/quote]

The fuck are you going on about, all I said is that most football players are not sub 10%(the only ones that are, are skill position players, of which even there most probably hover at 10-12 which is still damn lean, with some outliers that are just crazy lean.) I am well aware of the differences in BBers on stage and a football player in season. Also I laughed at the part where you insinuated that the lower bf% the more elite you are as a player, gj bro.

Also WF, Peterson was probably a bad example because he might be that lean(I looked at that once magazine pic of him again to refresh memory) but still, hearing it all the time makes people correlate that level of condition to other players, when even they call him a freak.

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[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
NON STEROIDAL BANNED SUBSTANCE you muppets.
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Am I the only other person that noticed this? That asshat of an article writer definitely didn’t.

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[quote]theuofh wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]MattyXL wrote:
I read the nfl band substances, actually skimmed…but let me get this straight, a player may get suspended, or be under scrutiny if he has sudafed in his system? shit what if he has a cold? OR a team doctor has to prescribe and over the counter drug? WTF?[/quote]

Have you ever taken the kind where you need to sign a government contract to buy?

Shit is FUCKING BANANAS. Lol, dude it is speed that dries up your sinuses.

I worked all afternoon standing up and was sweating like it was leg day. My bosses were kinda pissed, until I told them I took too much Sudafed, then they understood.

Stuff is fucking speed man.[/quote]

I’m calling bullshit on this, I’ve taken psuedophedrine since I was like 10 for allergies. It has only been recently where you have to go to the pharmacist and sign something to get it. I’m pissed because it worked great, and although you may have had some side effects, it is far different drug then ephedra or methamphetamine.

Its the same thing with DXM in cough syrup, where it can get you really high if you drink the whole bottle, but it is highly effective at fixing coughs. Don’t go drinking a whole bottle of cough syrup because if it has other stuff in it, you will die.

Its ridiculous and am wondering how much of this crap is related to doping in sports which suddenly is representative of some moral crisis affecting the American public, hence they take effective and safe OTC medications off the market or attach some stigma to buying them.[/quote]

Sudafed got pulled cause this was a main ingredient for Meth labs. Same thing for ephedra. METH is a big problem.

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Posting this just to keep you guys updated:

“Suspended LB Brian Cushing flunked his drug test in September of last season. This means that Cushing played virtually the entire season knowing that he’d eventually be suspended for four games once he lost his appeal. It raises an even stronger argument for Cushing being stripped of his Rookie of the Year award. Bills S Jairus Byrd finished second in the voting.”

-RotoWorld.com

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Bunch of irrelevant talk in the thread.

I love the boys who say he tested positive for creatine and multivitamins. Original.

We may never know what he took since the NFL will not disclose.

Week 5 can’t come soon enough.

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[quote]JGerman wrote:
Bunch of irrelevant talk in the thread.

I love the boys who say he tested positive for creatine and multivitamins. Original.

We may never know what he took since the NFL will not disclose.

Week 5 can’t come soon enough.

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Actually I heard it was NO Explode.