[quote]Wodanson wrote:
dancar wrote:
Who’s saying men should be sensitive and not have muscles?
I know that about 25 years ago, the media proclaimed that women supposedly wanted sensitive Alan Alda-type men, but frankly I haven’t heard that recently.
There are a number of other studies like this if you do an internet search.[/quote]
There’s nothing in this article that suggests that men should be “sensitive with no muscels.” What I read is that while not all women like competitive bodybuilder types, they do like either George Clooney
or Brad Pitt. While Pitt does have the boyish face some women like, his characters (Fight Club? Oceans 11? Troy?) are hardly the “sensitive with no muscles” type.
The only media persona of a “non-manly” man who seems to get a lot of women that I can think of is Woody Allen.
[quote]dancar wrote:
Wodanson wrote:
dancar wrote:
Who’s saying men should be sensitive and not have muscles?
I know that about 25 years ago, the media proclaimed that women supposedly wanted sensitive Alan Alda-type men, but frankly I haven’t heard that recently.
There are a number of other studies like this if you do an internet search.
There’s nothing in this article that suggestions that men should be “sensitive with no muscels.” What I read is that while not all women like competitive bodybuilder types, they do like either George Clooney
or Brad Pitt. While Pitt does have the boyish face some women like, his characters (Fight Club? Oceans 11? Troy?) are hardly the “sensitive with no muscles” type.
The only media persona of a “non-manly” man who seems to get a lot of women that I can think of is Woody Allen.[/quote]
i think he was pointing this stuff out…
" The over-40 women who were brought up with traditional views of masculinity preferred the chiseled looks of George Clooney, while the younger women, raised in an age of equal opportunity and female super heroes, chose baby-faced Brad Pitt…
…When women were asked to manipulate the same image, they didn’t add any muscle. Their ideal image looked like a silhouette of Topher, Tobey, Orlando, or Keanu, the Four Cabana Boys of the Apocalypse."
you can disregard the sensitive part i guess. but the above displays how girls feel about male bodies.
[quote]cap’nsalty wrote:
greatgro wrote:
Arioch wrote:
Then, it hit me that it is better than not working out. Plus, it could keep them out of the way of the guys that really want to use the weights.
I guess. But it’s not resistence training. At least not the kind that can build any muscle. I know Curves uses machines that have NO NEGATIVES. In other words, a machine would be a combo bench press and row. You press the bar up and have to pull it back. It’s all done with hydraulic resistence and no negatives. Their marketing of that concept is to “eliminate injuries which usually occur by lowering heavy weights”. Too bad that’s where the stimulus to grow and build muscle comes from - the lowering of the weight. I think Curves (and Cuts too if they’re the same way) is a great disservice to the general population.
??? If that were true bodybuilders shouldn’t do anything but negatives. [/quote]
Perhaps the original poster made as poor statement. The idea is, truly, that negative resistance is as important to the exercise as the positive portion.
If you have ever lifted on a machine with only positive resistance you know that it is the most akward feeling. Pressing up 200lbs and having the go “dead” in your hands. You, very literally" have to pull the bar back down to you. Most Akward.
I’m not really sure how to react to this article. On the one hand, I recognize the importance of fitness in general for the masses. Anything that can help fight obesity and the increasing laziness of our culture is a good thing. On the other hand, why the hell can’t they just man up and be big boys? They won’t go to a real gym because they’re insecure??? That is the saddest, weakest thing I’ve ever heard in my life. I weep for the boys that have to be raised by such complete pussies.
Cuts for Men? Saddest thing I have ever read. Curves sucks bad, I know, I work right next to one. I see all the women come waddling up, day after day, looking exactly the same. Maybe doing nothing is better; at least when you plop your ass down on the couch there is an eccentric contraction going on!
As for the dork who said guys his age don’t want big muscles, maybe he needs some HRT. Over half of the guys that come into GNC are over 50, and most of them are serious weightlifters. Hell, I talked to a guy 82 years old who told me he just got done with a leg day in which he did Good Mornings!
New lifters need to stay as far away from Cuts as possible. Even the guys that will say “but I’m small and weak, and those guys are just SOO big and scary” need to run away. In fact, they need to go and develop some willpower and self-confidence ie: BALLS before they try and do anything else in their lives. Their is more to their problem than going and doing non-resistance training at Cuts will fix.
Oh and women want whatever they want, and it doesn’t really matter what any study says. At least with the college girls I hang out with, there are 3 types of bodies they like:
Number one, the 160lb ripped guy. Number two, the chubby but not fat football player/bodybuilder with no definition look. Number three, the really really thin, not ripped, baby faced, twig who can barely hold his own weight up to walk around boyish looking metro guy.
The big and ripped guys, the average chubby guy who doesn’t lift, and the almost-but not quite metro get ignored.
I bet that Cuts includes a free makeup bag with a membership!
I saw a Hummer commercial yesterday. There were two guys at the checkout. One has tofu, bean sprouts and soymilk. The other has huge amounts of beef and pork ribs and beer. Soyboy’s tofu won’t ring up and he looks embarrassed.
So he runs out to his econobox, drives straight to the Hummer dealership and buys one. The tagline is “Get your manhood back”
I’ll bet that guy goes to Cuts.
Seriously, though, anything is better than nothing. Unfortunately, the people going to places like Cuts don’t understand that they will not really get anywhere after a while. They won’t know they have to switch, and if they do switch, they won’t really know how to work out.
