[quote]Blongo wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:
Blongo wrote:
Understood. I appreciate the apology and I’m sorry if I offended you, but my original post was more of a reaction to the other’s advice than it was to your problem.
It now seems like you know what you have to do. Get to work and make some progress.
In all sincerity, good luck.
thanks man. I took it as a personal attack more then anything. on the same note. do you think close grips or DE chain benches are a better idea for the next few weeks?
Experimentation is key. Go with your gut. That doesn’t work try the other.
You could implement close grip as some accessory work and then do the DE w/ chains on your other upper day (sorry didn’t read through whole thread about your split).
You’re going to get results from either dependent on the work you put into it. [/quote]
When I changed my routine. Doing lifts a certain way only once a week gave me a huge drive to push that weight even harder, becuase I’d have to wait a whole week to prove I could do it if I missed. As a relative beginner that extra drive has helped me a lot.
[quote]Stronghold wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:
that he hates newbies. ironic.
My problem with you is the attitude you carry into every thread you post in. There is more whining in your training log than training.[/quote]
I post about stupid shit that happens in the gym in my log. That’s bad? It’s something a little more interestin gto read then just having hte weights I did everyday. If I’m having a problem with my lifting or see somethnig ridiculous I put it in my log. I’m glad to see you actually read it.
"No belt, I had no idea where it was until i left. Some asshat who sat on a shoulder press machine for the entire time I was there had it on. given it’s the only one that fits me, this asshat had ti on the near widest setting when there were like a half dozen belts that would fit his large gut. NOT TO MENTION HE DIDN’T TOUCH A FUCKING FREEWEIGHT THE ENTIRE TIME. "
an example from my log. same post had somethnig about people who wear sleevelesses whodon’t do anythnig to warrant wearing a sleeveless (curled the whole 45+ minutes I was in there) other then looking like an even bigger tool, with bleached hair and gelled up bangs.
I’ve read no further than that post yet, but I have to say you are coming across as one royal dickhead if that’s how you react to advice. Even if you don’t think it’s worth anything a little bit of common decency would be nice.
I’ve noticed that “I’m so bad ass” attitude in your Squat Rack Curl posts but I ignored them because I figured you were just adding some jazz to the story. But now you’re starting to look like a fully blown tool…
I wonder what the rest of this thread will hold for me.
MY intentions weren’t to say your advice was bad, although my comments come off that way.
But more specifically to the OP, there’s no need to do anything other than the basics at your level.
Hanley you’re just skewing my words to fit your justification. I respect your contributions to these forums and I’m a subscriber to your youtube. But I think you knew what I meant.
But a 205 bench and he’s worried about lockout? There’s no magical answer, just get in the gym and do some work and be patient.
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I do know what you meant, but I do still think there is a place for them in training. That place might not be in circa max phases, or with regualr dynamic days, but they do have a use. Of course that’s just my opinion and it can be taken for what it’s worth. Do I think they’re absolutely necessary? No… but I do think if the access is there they can become a useful tool.
As for getting stronger at lockout… get stronger all over. Your lockout will still suck, but it’ll suck while being 20lbs heavier!! I dunno who said that about weak points in beginner lifters… it may have been someone off this forum, but I’m not sure.
MY intentions weren’t to say your advice was bad, although my comments come off that way.
But more specifically to the OP, there’s no need to do anything other than the basics at your level.
Hanley you’re just skewing my words to fit your justification. I respect your contributions to these forums and I’m a subscriber to your youtube. But I think you knew what I meant.
But a 205 bench and he’s worried about lockout? There’s no magical answer, just get in the gym and do some work and be patient.
I do know what you meant, but I do still think there is a place for them in training. That place might not be in circa max phases, or with regualr dynamic days, but they do have a use. Of course that’s just my opinion and it can be taken for what it’s worth. Do I think they’re absolutely necessary? No… but I do think if the access is there they can become a useful tool.
As for getting stronger at lockout… get stronger all over. Your lockout will still suck, but it’ll suck while being 20lbs heavier!! I dunno who said that about weak points in beginner lifters… it may have been someone off this forum, but I’m not sure.[/quote]
I appologized. I took his post as him just wanting to tell me I was weak. I really dod think he was jumping in my thread to stir up shit and remind someone they aren’t strong. And I got honestly, quite pissy.
When someone says “I need to work my lockout” come across as suggesting that they down tools everywhere else and do nothing but lockout work. Instead of taking the sensible approach of following up the main movement with some sort of board/band/chain resisted movement to put emphasis on the lockout.
ME exercise followed by 2-3 board press 3x5, lats/upper back, tris
DE exercise followed by floor press 3x5-8, lats/upper back, shoulders, tris
[quote]Synthetickiller wrote:
In responce to lockout, if your lockout sucks, fix it.
Yes, even when you’re benching only 205, you can work your lockout if it sucks. Get some light bands and go focus on that after main work.
Why let a problem become a bigger problem? There’s a reason for supplementary work. [/quote]
yep, bongo even pmed me about how to help fix it. I think we’re good now. He misread what I wanted I I mistook his intentions, freaked. and responded poorly.
[quote]Hanley wrote:
Synthetickiller raises a good point.
When someone says “I need to work my lockout” come across as suggesting that they down tools everywhere else and do nothing but lockout work. Instead of taking the sensible approach of following up the main movement with some sort of board/band/chain resisted movement to put emphasis on the lockout.
ME exercise followed by 2-3 board press 3x5, lats/upper back, tris
DE exercise followed by floor press 3x5-8, lats/upper back, shoulders, tris
Quite simple really.[/quote]
thanks I’m favoriting this thread. Lots of good info in here so far.
see, i remember apwsearch responding on this situation for someone else a while ago. Im going to restate what he said. Your really young and pretty inexperienced. Just get stronger at the bench all togehter. In essence, you bench 205, but at 215 your stuck 7inches up. Well just train the ENTIRE bench, so if you bench 225, and get stuck at 235 7inches up, o well. There will always be a sticking point, so make the whole better and dont worry about the sticking point as of now
[quote]Pipes06 wrote:
see, i remember apwsearch responding on this situation for someone else a while ago. Im going to restate what he said. Your really young and pretty inexperienced. Just get stronger at the bench all togehter. In essence, you bench 205, but at 215 your stuck 7inches up. Well just train the ENTIRE bench, so if you bench 225, and get stuck at 235 7inches up, o well. There will always be a sticking point, so make the whole better and dont worry about the sticking point as of now[/quote]
I do train the entire bench press. I’m switching up my RE day for something else. right now it’s either close grips, or DE chain benching. My ME day will probably always be Flat wide grip bench press, unless I get injured.
I however appreciate the advice. I’ll continue to hammer out my ME bench days as hard as I can, and then some.
i like this forum a bunch of fiesty people yelling and screaming from advise not being “worth” anything but the saying goes one mans garbage is anothers treasure.
My sticking point is off my chest, know what i did? benched twice a week working with heavy singles of over 90%, did some boards, did some rest pauses at the chest, nothing fancy and hey it works, change your rep scheme
that should do it i think
do work son:)
