[quote]jskrabac wrote:
Thank you for all the feed back. It seems as though everyone is more or less giving the same advice.
So this is what I’ll be doing:
Continue doing rowing motions first.
Drop the weights and focus on holding the contractions longer…especially on warm up sets.
Pull the weight into my waist and not my chest.
Bottom line, though, I think I’ve just been pulling the weight into my belly too high and neglecting my lats. [/quote]
Good choice. I was going to say don’t pull all the way up but someone else already said it.
Partly it’s to do with visualising the muscle too and keeping constant tension (not relaxing it) - limmiting the ROM at the top really helps for this.
Could you not possibly do tri’s after back, and bi’s after chest? That way, you get to hit them when they are fresher in the workout, and give them more separate “hits” (directly and indirectly) per week.
Im not saying do this but its worth a try, when I do them I pull to the bottom of my abdomen its dragging on my legs more or less and Ive never felt it in my arms, I dont know if this is correllated or not just thinking of things to try out
[quote]jskrabac wrote:
Thank you for all the feed back. It seems as though everyone is more or less giving the same advice.
So this is what I’ll be doing:
Continue doing rowing motions first.
Drop the weights and focus on holding the contractions longer…especially on warm up sets.
Pull the weight into my waist and not my chest.
Bottom line, though, I think I’ve just been pulling the weight into my belly too high and neglecting my lats. [/quote]
I dont know how to best change the 531 template.
I just know that MY arms recover a lot quicker than my back. I train my biceps twice a week and my back once. But not the same workout each time. My biceps workout after my back workout is only about 5-6 sets. My full bicep workout is more than double that.
Just tack on some extra sets of the muscles that recover faster. If your muscle is recovered theres no reason to wait to train it again. It takes a little critical thinking to figure out which muscles recover faster but it’s valuable info that likely will never change.
Tonight I pulled the weight into my waist instead of sternum…and bam, my lats were crying. I did start off lighter but soon discovered I could handle more weight for more reps for more sets. Go figure. On neutral grip lat pulldowns I did have to go lighter, but felt it alot more in my lats focusing on visualizing the contraction with each rep.
After my lat work, my arms felt fresh and I was able to double up the volume on my bi work.
Jsk you da man. I LOVE neutral grip lat pulldowns. Especially the super wide grip ones. I can do the same width w/ a normal grip and barely feel it in my lats, but as soon as I hit the neutral grip I feel that sonbitch in my lats and mid back like nobody’s bidness.
Tonight I pulled the weight into my waist instead of sternum…and bam, my lats were crying. I did start off lighter but soon discovered I could handle more weight for more reps for more sets. Go figure. On neutral grip lat pulldowns I did have to go lighter, but felt it alot more in my lats focusing on visualizing the contraction with each rep.
After my lat work, my arms felt fresh and I was able to double up the volume on my bi work.
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
Pre-exhaust to get better back stimulation is a good idea. But fatiguing the likely weakest link in the chain is not a good idea. Youll never be able to row big weight if your biceps are tired.
Pre-exhaust your back with straight arm pulldowns or HS pullover. Something like that.
If you had the problem of your back being too big then your idea would be good. [/quote]