Curious to know and understand WIDTH

Give it a quick search on here. There’s no less than a dozen of them, including one at the same time of this posting.

How tall are you? I’m 6’4” or 196CM, with fairly wide shoulders.

We can tell. Your shoulders look pretty level. I used my Stanley 4’ level and it’s pretty close.

I’ve been training traps and upper back a lot lately to try to avoid

I think when you’re big, most are more focused on overall size than looking like a top.

Oh. Well that explains quite a bit.

So be it.

:thinking: height and weight?

I’ll do a photo for you, remember. I’m overweight at moment, so I’d assume I have around 25-26 inches of muscle.

Yeah that’s true, but there are certain parts of the body people should neglect IE traps and outer quad sweeps.

RUDE! Although, the UK is losing its UKness and we’re experiencing oblivion right now.

5’11” and 115 KG.

My shoulders look even? I thought one clavicle is always longer.

Everyone should be trying to add muscle everywhere muscle will go.

As to traps, I never tried building traps until I saw that they were getting noticeably bigger and gave my physique a powerful look. Perish the thought of building a powerful looking physique.

Why do you believe you know anything about an ideal developed physique? I know everyone’s tastes differ. I just wonder why yours is so weird.

That’s odd. Both quad sweeps and traps are generally considered very aesthetic features. Without traps, you just look like a triangle pointing down with a neck sticking out vs. natural taper up to neck.

Without the sweep, you have bird legs like a woman. Filling out a shirt with your arms is cool and all, but filling out your shorts with you quads is even cooler.

I didn’t say even. I said ‘level’. Meaning, you don’t have much for traps. I was also joking (re: being cheeky for UK folks) and had ai put a level on your picture.

Yeah. Thats cultural assimilation.

Yeah sounds on the money

Incorrect. Traps and Obliques shouldn’t be trained as much compared to other muscles. I think you might need to re-evaluate your knowledge.

I want 96 kg of muscle - That’ll be ideal for me I think, or even 97.

I love everyone, but feels weird getting supplanted, but heyho.

Haha I noticed that. How the heck did you do that? I see people doing AI stuff and have NO clue how they do it. Interesting. But I see what you mean, I think though, too big of quads can actually look bad. If you saw Arnies physique, he looked SO aesthetic, even with his wide waist. He knew exactly how to look good.

I didn’t mention anything about obliques, but I strongly hold to the obvious position that big traps are a big plus. Now, if you are considering a sex change, you might have a good point.

BTW, do you actually lift weights?

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What’s weird is too big a quad doesn’t look aesthetic, but if the calves are quite large compared to the quads in harmony - it can be aesthetic. But I’ve heard people say that big calves are not aesthetic. It’s a 50/50 with that. But what we do know are wide clavicles are pretty mandatory for an aesthetic build, aswell as the pelvis width NOT the waist width. The waist will taper WAY BETTER if your pelvis is on the narrower side. But people like Phil Heath who have narrow clavicles, look absolutely insane because they know how to hide it with proportions and ofcourse, he got the genetic lottery with his crazy muscle insertions.

This isn’t real, is it?

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Now you are on to the true solution to all symmetry problems. More muscle is the answer to all symmetry problems for everyone. But the hitch is that not all people have the capability to build significant muscle.

Thigh sweep adds the look of power.

There is a saying that I had heard years ago. You cannot get your arms, shoulders, and calves too big.

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