I believe I have read that C.T. does not like to use collagen supplementation. I was wondering why? Some have suggested that since collagen gets broken down to amino acids in digestion, that the polypeptide structure is not important.
My counter to that is that most amino acids are absorbed as di and tripeptides, and there are 400 unique dipeptide combinations and 8000 unique tripeptide combinations which could potentially serve as signaling effects. For example, a lot of collagen dipeptides and tripeptides could signal for the synthesis of collagen which would be beneficial since the amino acids needed to make collagen would be plentiful after consuming collagen.
Also, collagen is supposed to have benefits for gut biota.
Are there negative issues with raising collagen intake?
Where did I say that? I actually use collagen. I might have said that I don’t like it as a protein source, but that doesn’t mean I don’t think there is value to it.
I guess that was the clarification. To be honest, I just remember people making posts where they said “C.T. doesn’t like collagen” so I was going to the purported source.
Coach or mertdawg,
what are the benefits of using it and how should it be taken? Like how much, how often, separate from other food/protein etc?
I’m asking because Im getting older and want to preserve my joints and maybe even heal a few where a tiny bit of arthritis is setting in and read that it helps with that. Just wasn’t sure how effective it is. Also does the higher glycine content help with cortisol reduction? I’m a type 3 and as I get older with more life stressors I have a difficult time with keeping cortisol down and getting to sleep and glycine alone even at only 1g kills my stomach. Thanks
Hi all. I also have a question regarding collagen - when using it for joint health, is collagen type important? I know that cartillage is type 2 (harder to find, more expensive), but since collagen gets broken down during digestion, do type 1 and 3 (found in most supplement formulas, a lot cheaper) still offer the same/comparable benefits?
My understanding is twofold. One is that collagen might be good for gut flora.
The second one has been debated, that collagen can help maintain and restore connective tissue. Since proteins are broken down into amino acids before being absorbed, there has developed a belief that collagen has a limited ability to do this because it would merely provide the right building blocks which could be gotten from other proteins, however, I have a hypothesis that dipeptides and tripeptides can serve as cell signals, so if you eat collagen and a lot of certain tripeptide sequences get released into the bloodstream, cells might see that as a signal to synthesize collagen. This would be beneficial since the signal would be present along with the raw materials. There are actually almost 8000 unique tripeptide sequences that can be made from amino acids, and again my basic hypothesis is that given that a lot of protein is absorbed in the form of dipeptides and tripeptides, they might be cell signals to produce the polypeptide that they came from.
I tried the collagen in my coffee thing and it made the coffee taste TERRIBLE. So bad I threw the cup out. I take my coffee black though, so perhaps that was it. Now I just take the type II pills and then the type I/III powder mixed into a shake later in the day.
I have, but minor ones, like little niggles in my knees or wrist that occasionally came out tend to minimise or go away when I take collagen.
On the flip side, coupled with BPC-157 for a lower back injury, while on a personalised corrective mobility plan, it definitely worked. It is suggested that BPC increases collagen absorption in the damaged tissue, which is especially useful in likes of tendons and ligaments as they generally have poor blood flow. While the pain wouldn’t have went away without the mobility as it came from structural imbalances that needed corrected, my goal with the BPC collagen combo was to heal the tissue which I assumed to be ligament or tendon, that I battered over and over and reinjured about 5-6 times in 3 years, and I beleive I succeeded or at least made great progress on it. I am in no way suggesting using BPC or any other drug or peptide tho, do your research first, I included it for completeness of information.