Lol’ed at your pictures brick.
I started following the sport in the 90’s. To me those outfits just scream “serious bodybuilder”
S
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Lol’ed at your pictures brick.[/quote]
Oh yeah?
IFBB pro Rusty Jeffers
I’m done now. 
Who’s calling what gay again?
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
What’s with all the crossfit hate?
The “haters” are really just ill informed.
If you belong to this site I think it is safe to assume that you care about strength, fitness and (to a certain degree) health.
You should be happy that crossfit is exploding across the world and getting otherwise sedentary people up off their couches and in the gym throwing around some weight.
So what that it’s not the way you prefer to train?
The more people who are out there putting in work and trying to better themselves the better.
That’s what I say.[/quote]
Well, in the world of many–though DEFINITELY NOT ALL (gotta include disclaimers constantly for this sensitive lot)–powerlifters and bodybuilders, the world is like this: powerlifters or bodybuilders… and everyone else! That is, there are bodybuilders and regular, “mediocre” people. A marathon runner is gay, a guy who spends his evenings with his kids and wife but has a 14 inch arm is gay, a Crossfitter is gay, a Zumba participatant who wants to have exercise and fun with her girlfriends is gay, a long distance runner is gay, and so on. And if they express their distaste for bodybuilding or powerlifting, they are called “haters”, which is ironic considering the hate delivered by the people I speak of here, and the liberal use of the words queer and gay but when there’s an issue concerning race and gender and sexuality will wax pious (though falsely so, otherwise they wouldn’t feel so free in using those words). [/quote]
Man, I love your posts lol…which is gay.
[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
What’s with all the crossfit hate?
The “haters” are really just ill informed.
If you belong to this site I think it is safe to assume that you care about strength, fitness and (to a certain degree) health.
You should be happy that crossfit is exploding across the world and getting otherwise sedentary people up off their couches and in the gym throwing around some weight.
So what that it’s not the way you prefer to train?
The more people who are out there putting in work and trying to better themselves the better.
That’s what I say.[/quote]
Well, in the world of many–though DEFINITELY NOT ALL (gotta include disclaimers constantly for this sensitive lot)–powerlifters and bodybuilders, the world is like this: powerlifters or bodybuilders… and everyone else! That is, there are bodybuilders and regular, “mediocre” people. A marathon runner is gay, a guy who spends his evenings with his kids and wife but has a 14 inch arm is gay, a Crossfitter is gay, a Zumba participatant who wants to have exercise and fun with her girlfriends is gay, a long distance runner is gay, and so on. And if they express their distaste for bodybuilding or powerlifting, they are called “haters”, which is ironic considering the hate delivered by the people I speak of here, and the liberal use of the words queer and gay but when there’s an issue concerning race and gender and sexuality will wax pious (though falsely so, otherwise they wouldn’t feel so free in using those words). [/quote]
Man, I love your posts lol…which is gay.[/quote]
Thanks bro. I’ve always liked yours!
I <3 Crossfit because regular gyms ban things like chalk and “dropping weights” because Crossfitters have a tendency to make a freaking mess of things. They chalk up don’t clean up, let weights drop because its hardcore.
The same crap that a toolbag bodybuilder gym rat bro would do and get hate for on any forum, is exactly what most Crossfitters do because they are “too tired” or “totally hardcore” that controlling the weight after a finished set is too much. And all that chalk is needed for grip bra!
When someone trains for a triathlon, at least the people I knew, they focused on the individual items, got them where they needed to be, and then maintained them while improving others. Or, they did running one day, bicycling another, and swimming another. They didn’t do all three in one day and try to add a minute or go faster each time. Same for Tough Mudder, people I know didn’t train by running a Tough Mudder course, they built their strength, then hit the cardio in the weeks leading up to the event. They didn’t do 10 pull-ups, run around in circles, then rinse repeat for 10 iterations.
I’m not calling Crossfit gay. I’m calling it an exercise in futility and exceptional way to spin your tires. Its also a great money-making venture. I remember when I was on the SS forums a hardcore Crossfit guy got on and flipped out on Rip for his views on Crossfit. Rip asked point blank to provide proof of someone improving their WOD - or whatever its called - by running the Crossfit program, neglecting placebo newbies. Guy couldn’t provide it. Another guy claimed he would be pulling 450lbs on Deadlift by training Crossfit because he was able to pull something like 350lbs when he started. Needless to say he disappeared because it didn’t happen.
I think since the bulk of the folks here are younger, sub-40, that trying something new isn’t the problem. The fact that we don’t see any real grounds for continuous progression is why we don’t bother. Good on you if you enjoy it though. Bad on Crossfit for encouraging harcore at the expense of people’s ligaments/joints.
[quote]Quasi-Tech wrote:
I <3 Crossfit because regular gyms ban things like chalk and “dropping weights” because Crossfitters have a tendency to make a freaking mess of things. They chalk up don’t clean up, let weights drop because its hardcore.
The same crap that a toolbag bodybuilder gym rat bro would do and get hate for on any forum, is exactly what most Crossfitters do because they are “too tired” or “totally hardcore” that controlling the weight after a finished set is too much. And all that chalk is needed for grip bra!
When someone trains for a triathlon, at least the people I knew, they focused on the individual items, got them where they needed to be, and then maintained them while improving others. Or, they did running one day, bicycling another, and swimming another. They didn’t do all three in one day and try to add a minute or go faster each time. Same for Tough Mudder, people I know didn’t train by running a Tough Mudder course, they built their strength, then hit the cardio in the weeks leading up to the event. They didn’t do 10 pull-ups, run around in circles, then rinse repeat for 10 iterations.
I’m not calling Crossfit gay. I’m calling it an exercise in futility and exceptional way to spin your tires. Its also a great money-making venture. I remember when I was on the SS forums a hardcore Crossfit guy got on and flipped out on Rip for his views on Crossfit. Rip asked point blank to provide proof of someone improving their WOD - or whatever its called - by running the Crossfit program, neglecting placebo newbies. Guy couldn’t provide it. Another guy claimed he would be pulling 450lbs on Deadlift by training Crossfit because he was able to pull something like 350lbs when he started. Needless to say he disappeared because it didn’t happen.
I think since the bulk of the folks here are younger, sub-40, that trying something new isn’t the problem. The fact that we don’t see any real grounds for continuous progression is why we don’t bother. Good on you if you enjoy it though. Bad on Crossfit for encouraging harcore at the expense of people’s ligaments/joints.[/quote]
I think it is just so damn easy to generalize people that we can’t help ourselves. You see one guy wearing a CrossFit shirt and acting like a clown by doing “fake pullups” at your local gym, and then say, CrossFitters are d-bags. You see a “powerlifter” scream and yell and psych him self up before his max effort 315 lb deadlift, and then say powerlifters are d-bags. You see a bodybuilder drop his pants in the middle of the gym to check out his quad pump and then leave ten 45’s on the leg press and then say bodybuilders are d-bags.
The truth is almost all gyms foster an environment for egotistical pricks to act like egotistical pricks no matter what type of training they claim to be doing. There are good hard working humble athletes that do all of these activities, but they don’t get the attention.
Now that I can agree on :D.
Brad Hollibaugh in the house!
[quote]Madtytecurls wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
Competitive Olympic lifters are just ONE class of advanced trainees and competitors who lift weights in competition. No, they do NOT perform high reps in the Olympic lifts and their variations.
Care to quote a post in this thread or another in which I said Olympic lifters practice the lifts and their variations with high reps?
Care to quote a post in this thread or another in which I said Olympic lifters practice Crossfit?
People aside from Olympic lifters perform the Olympic lifts, including myself.
You completely misinterpreted my post.
Thanks. [/quote]
Well I guess if your sport happens to be “Crossfit” (if you even consider that a sport) then there is some value to performing high volume Olympic lifts. It begs the question though as to why anyone would want to make their sport Crossfit other than that its trendy and “hip.”
I was being sarcastic with the Olympic lifting post in an attempt to point out that the best lifters don’t do high volume Olympic lifts because there is no point. The clean and jerk and the snatch are extremely high intensity, explosive lifts that rely predominantly on the phospocreatine energy system since it is needed to generate ATP at the fastest rate. When training for explosive lifts the goal should be to develop as much neuromuscular strength and power as possible so what purpose does it entail to perform such lifts at such a volume where you’re no longer even using the energy system where ATP generates at the fastest rate and the lifts tax the body much in the same way as long distance running? Isn’t weightlifting supposed to be about power and strength as opposed to muscular endurance?
It would be like coaching a long distance runner to run a marathon the same way a sprinter runs a 40 yard dash.
I know its popular but like Hell am I going to teach something that has no scientific rationale to my clients. The Crossfit name however is pure gold and I want to cash in.
Man it would be really easy to be a Crossfit coach though. Everyone would just pay me and then I’d write
WOD: 20 deadlifts, 20 snatches, 30 dead lifts and rope climbing for 5 minute all in 30 minutes.
Would just have to write that on a blackboard, sit back and relax as everyone snaps their backs in two.
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You sound like a complete tool, OP, and I feel badly for the people who are placing their trust in you when you have so little respect for them.
Integrity FTMFW.
[quote]fattymcfatso wrote:
[quote]Quasi-Tech wrote:
I <3 Crossfit because regular gyms ban things like chalk and “dropping weights” because Crossfitters have a tendency to make a freaking mess of things. They chalk up don’t clean up, let weights drop because its hardcore.
The same crap that a toolbag bodybuilder gym rat bro would do and get hate for on any forum, is exactly what most Crossfitters do because they are “too tired” or “totally hardcore” that controlling the weight after a finished set is too much. And all that chalk is needed for grip bra!
When someone trains for a triathlon, at least the people I knew, they focused on the individual items, got them where they needed to be, and then maintained them while improving others. Or, they did running one day, bicycling another, and swimming another. They didn’t do all three in one day and try to add a minute or go faster each time. Same for Tough Mudder, people I know didn’t train by running a Tough Mudder course, they built their strength, then hit the cardio in the weeks leading up to the event. They didn’t do 10 pull-ups, run around in circles, then rinse repeat for 10 iterations.
I’m not calling Crossfit gay. I’m calling it an exercise in futility and exceptional way to spin your tires. Its also a great money-making venture. I remember when I was on the SS forums a hardcore Crossfit guy got on and flipped out on Rip for his views on Crossfit. Rip asked point blank to provide proof of someone improving their WOD - or whatever its called - by running the Crossfit program, neglecting placebo newbies. Guy couldn’t provide it. Another guy claimed he would be pulling 450lbs on Deadlift by training Crossfit because he was able to pull something like 350lbs when he started. Needless to say he disappeared because it didn’t happen.
I think since the bulk of the folks here are younger, sub-40, that trying something new isn’t the problem. The fact that we don’t see any real grounds for continuous progression is why we don’t bother. Good on you if you enjoy it though. Bad on Crossfit for encouraging harcore at the expense of people’s ligaments/joints.[/quote]
I think it is just so damn easy to generalize people that we can’t help ourselves. You see one guy wearing a CrossFit shirt and acting like a clown by doing “fake pullups” at your local gym, and then say, CrossFitters are d-bags. You see a “powerlifter” scream and yell and psych him self up before his max effort 315 lb deadlift, and then say powerlifters are d-bags. You see a bodybuilder drop his pants in the middle of the gym to check out his quad pump and then leave ten 45’s on the leg press and then say bodybuilders are d-bags.
The truth is almost all gyms foster an environment for egotistical pricks to act like egotistical pricks no matter what type of training they claim to be doing. There are good hard working humble athletes that do all of these activities, but they don’t get the attention.
[/quote]
Well said … Douchebaggery in every lifting genre
OP, it seems like you intended to set a trap, rather than looking for real advice. Anyone who has responded positively to your question about getting a crossfit certification has been met by crossfit bashing by you. Why even consider it if you hate it so much?
Kinda bizarre … Seems like you had your own personal answer before you asked the question
Watching “the Games” this year it’s hard to deny that Crossfit produces some people who are in amazing shape/really good at exercising.
Will be interesting to see when CFs popularity peaks.
Say what you will about Glassman but the dude’s a genius for figuring out how to turn working out into a competition.
[quote]Madtytecurls wrote:
I know its popular but like Hell am I going to teach something that has no scientific rationale to my clients. The Crossfit name however is pure gold and I want to cash in.
[/quote]
Is there something wrong with you?
After the Brony post I think we’re being trolled.
[quote]surfer_dude wrote:
Watching “the Games” this year it’s hard to deny that Crossfit produces some people who are in amazing shape/really good at exercising.
Will be interesting to see when CFs popularity peaks.
Say what you will about Glassman but the dude’s a genius for figuring out how to turn working out into a competition.[/quote]
I watched the games also and I can’t really say that I’m impressed. Sure they can put up a fair amount of weight a lot of times but if you really drill down into each activity everything they do is exceptionally mediocre. They are piss poor runners, they are horrible swimmers, they can do all sorts of lifts (I won’t comment on the form) but the weights are heavy but again not that heavy. You are completely right though, Glassman has made a pile of money by marketing Crossfit as elite and convincing a whole lot of people that exercise is a competitive sport.
All this being said I have found crossfit to be a great workout, but without direction.
One must also assume (and its a big assumption) that those who compete in the Crossfit games only train Crossfit style.
That is like saying an Arm Wrestler only trains by Arm Wrestling, or a Football player only trains by playing football. They do many other things to prepare for “game day.” Its the culmination of the pieces that makes for a successful competition.
[quote]kegelb wrote:
[quote]surfer_dude wrote:
Watching “the Games” this year it’s hard to deny that Crossfit produces some people who are in amazing shape/really good at exercising.
Will be interesting to see when CFs popularity peaks.
Say what you will about Glassman but the dude’s a genius for figuring out how to turn working out into a competition.[/quote]
I watched the games also and I can’t really say that I’m impressed. Sure they can put up a fair amount of weight a lot of times but if you really drill down into each activity everything they do is exceptionally mediocre. They are piss poor runners, they are horrible swimmers, they can do all sorts of lifts (I won’t comment on the form) but the weights are heavy but again not that heavy. You are completely right though, Glassman has made a pile of money by marketing Crossfit as elite and convincing a whole lot of people that exercise is a competitive sport.
All this being said I have found crossfit to be a great workout, but without direction. [/quote]
Couldn’t agree more about the overall mediocrity. Didn’t get to see this years swim (did they have one?), but in years past they had some near drownings LOL. Still impressed by their work capacities.
AS far as lack of direction>More Glassman genius. People get bored easily. Giving the people what they want=$
[quote]Quasi-Tech wrote:
One must also assume (and its a big assumption) that those who compete in the Crossfit games only train Crossfit style.
That is like saying an Arm Wrestler only trains by Arm Wrestling, or a Football player only trains by playing football. They do many other things to prepare for “game day.” Its the culmination of the pieces that makes for a successful competition.[/quote]
Good post. Whoever thinks Crossfit Games competitors (i.e. those ripped/jacked dudes that we aspire to look like) are constantly doing met-cons and the like need to get a reality check. Doctrine - The Outlaw WayThe Outlaw Way
[quote]surfer_dude wrote:
[quote]kegelb wrote:
[quote]surfer_dude wrote:
Watching “the Games” this year it’s hard to deny that Crossfit produces some people who are in amazing shape/really good at exercising.
Will be interesting to see when CFs popularity peaks.
Say what you will about Glassman but the dude’s a genius for figuring out how to turn working out into a competition.[/quote]
I watched the games also and I can’t really say that I’m impressed. Sure they can put up a fair amount of weight a lot of times but if you really drill down into each activity everything they do is exceptionally mediocre. They are piss poor runners, they are horrible swimmers, they can do all sorts of lifts (I won’t comment on the form) but the weights are heavy but again not that heavy. You are completely right though, Glassman has made a pile of money by marketing Crossfit as elite and convincing a whole lot of people that exercise is a competitive sport.
All this being said I have found crossfit to be a great workout, but without direction. [/quote]
Couldn’t agree more about the overall mediocrity. Didn’t get to see this years swim (did they have one?), but in years past they had some near drownings LOL. Still impressed by their work capacities.
AS far as lack of direction>More Glassman genius. People get bored easily. Giving the people what they want=$[/quote]
LOL
You two are a joke (probably just trolling)
Any one of the top crossfit games competitors would destroy you in your own workout of choice.