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[quote]wfifer wrote:
hueyOT wrote:
and who the hell eats egg whites aside from pre-contest bodybuilders? i always eat the whole egg, the yolk is the best part of the egg.

People who don’t want to meet an early demise? Seriously dude, I eat egg whites all the time. I don’t know if you’ve ever looked at the nutrition data for a whole egg, but two of 'em will but you way over the edge in terms of cholesterol! Not to mention the fact that all of the fat and cholesterol content is in the yolk. Very often I do eat a whole egg, but that’s mixed in with five egg whites. If I want fat and cholesterol, I’m eating a big, juicy cut of meat.

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dietary cholesterol has very very very little to do with your blood cholestrol profile. you’re still living in the 80s with that kinda nutritional information.

unless you’re high risk and already have a fucked up blood lipid profile, you can eat tons of choleterol safely. i’ve have periods of time in my life <when i wasn’t sick of eggs :)> where i’d eat over %1500 of my ‘RDA’ of cholesterol… and guess what? my cholestrol levels are perfect.

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[quote]Rockscar wrote:
harris447 wrote:
ObsceneJester wrote:
harris447 wrote:
I take it by the “idk, don’t work on it that much” comment after you listed squat that you don’t squat?

If this is true, then grow a set of balls, you little twigcocked fetus, and put the fucking bar on your neck.

Hrrm I’m going to take this as not helping at all and tell you why I can’t do it dumbass… I hurt my lower back doing squats and I’m still recouping…

Also, we could probably help yo more if you were holding a shoe.

How is that possible? My shoe size is a 9… and I’m 5’8"

Every pussy lightbulb in my gym “hurt their back doing squats”.

What exactly is wrong with your back? What was the medical diagnosis?

You seem to be able to deadlift. That’s mre lower back intensive than squatting.

Plus…240 bench at 152? With a spotter doing upright rows and a 30 mph bounce of your (exposed) sternum?

TSB on this liar motherfucker.

This depends on where the back problem is. Dude, there’s no reason to call this guy a pussy. AND it does not take a pussy to hurt the lower back as you suggest. I benched 225-235 at 140lbs at 18-20yrs old. What’s so hard to believe?

I’m pretty dissapointed in you right now. Let’s tell the kid what to do without resorting to name calling.

Harris, do you have any pictures to show this kid what he might have to look forward to?

To the OP, please don’t worry about fat or abs. Hell every 13 year old has abs. You should pack on some meat, then look to cutting for your abs much later down the road. Wear a Tank top out and if you have 20-30lbs extra nobody will be looking for the abs. Stand next to some skinny “ripped” (which to me is an oxymoron) boy with great abs and you will still be more impressive.

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RS, I might have gone overboard, you’re right. (Why do you have such a calming effect on me?)

But…this is a bodyBUILDING site, not a bodyWHITTLING site. The kid looks anorexic and no matter who tells him to add 20 or 30 pounds (as if it were only as easy as that), he keeps harping on the fact that he wants a six pack.

Second, as I stated: if you’ve hurt your lower back to the point where you can’t squat at all, then how are you doing deads? I’ve twinged my lower back before ad was able to front squat, but deads, GM’s, or any other non-supported back exercise was out of the question. So i doubt his veracity.

As for pictures: I am beginning my cut tommoro and I will post pictures by June 1st. Please hold me to this!

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[quote]hueyOT wrote:
elliot007 wrote:
you bench 240? @155lbs

i must be the weakest motherfucker alive.

pound for pound strength is generally higher in lighter athletes.

but not everyone has the same idea of what constitutes a legitimate bench…[/quote]

I was wandering the same thing. All this skinny fuck’s show up with their numbers and I simply refuse to believe it until they post a video. 240 - that’s my digit and I’m 225 lbs and look waaaay beter than this scrawny dude.

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[quote]HvRv wrote:
hueyOT wrote:
elliot007 wrote:
you bench 240? @155lbs

i must be the weakest motherfucker alive.

pound for pound strength is generally higher in lighter athletes.

but not everyone has the same idea of what constitutes a legitimate bench…

I was wandering the same thing. All this skinny fuck’s show up with their numbers and I simply refuse to believe it until they post a video. 240 - that’s my digit and I’m 225 lbs and look waaaay beter than this scrawny dude.
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Remember Binford? Y’all slammed him all day long and he came back and showed it off.

Why do people need to question numbers? So what? You don’t need to look better than you to be stronger than you. This has been proven many times.

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[quote]HvRv wrote:
hueyOT wrote:
elliot007 wrote:
you bench 240? @155lbs

i must be the weakest motherfucker alive.

pound for pound strength is generally higher in lighter athletes.

but not everyone has the same idea of what constitutes a legitimate bench…

I was wandering the same thing. All this skinny fuck’s show up with their numbers and I simply refuse to believe it until they post a video. 240 - that’s my digit and I’m 225 lbs and look waaaay beter than this scrawny dude.
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everybody online benches a ton. even in real life i see most people loading up the bar with way more weight than they can do properly <and they don’t even KNOW how do it properly, regardless of the weight…> on all sorts of exercises… what makes you think these aren’t the same people you’re seeing in these forums telling us they just benched double weight?

everybody online is a strongman. everybody online is 8% bodyfat.

funny anecdote: just the other day this skinny 40-some year old CHUMP had 315 on the bar <i saw it in my peripheral vision, and i made an effort not to look at him 'cuz i knew he was probably gonna ask me for a spot> and he walks up to me <and i have headphones on always, and generally ignore everyone at the gym while training, even all the people i know> and taps me on the arm.

long story short: i told him he should get someone else to spot him because i felt that he was gonna be depending on me a little to much. it was my first time ever rejecting an idiot for a spot.

and he obviously got someone else to help him eventually, with the spotter upright rowing his incomplete reps.

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Everyone who’s 140lb has a 240 bench…isn’t that obvious. If your’re telling the truth, that is a very impressive bench for someone your size.

You have to start squatting. Most people i know always say they have bad backs and bad knees from squatting so they cant do it. unless you have a diagnosed medical problem, or surgery on your knees, you can squat. Also, since you deadlift, which is just as strenuous as sqautting, then you dont have an excuse. start with small weights and work your way up, you dont have to drop 300lbs on the bar to impress anyone. use a belt if you have to, it helps prevent any muscle tweaks you may get.

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[quote]hueyOT wrote:
HvRv wrote:
hueyOT wrote:
elliot007 wrote:
you bench 240? @155lbs

i must be the weakest motherfucker alive.

pound for pound strength is generally higher in lighter athletes.

but not everyone has the same idea of what constitutes a legitimate bench…

I was wandering the same thing. All this skinny fuck’s show up with their numbers and I simply refuse to believe it until they post a video. 240 - that’s my digit and I’m 225 lbs and look waaaay beter than this scrawny dude.

everybody online benches a ton. even in real life i see most people loading up the bar with way more weight than they can do properly <and they don’t even KNOW how do it properly, regardless of the weight…> on all sorts of exercises… what makes you think these aren’t the same people you’re seeing in these forums telling us they just benched double weight?

everybody online is a strongman. everybody online is 8% bodyfat.

funny anecdote: just the other day this skinny 40-some year old CHUMP had 315 on the bar <i saw it in my peripheral vision, and i made an effort not to look at him 'cuz i knew he was probably gonna ask me for a spot> and he walks up to me <and i have headphones on always, and generally ignore everyone at the gym while training, even all the people i know> and taps me on the arm.

long story short: i told him he should get someone else to spot him because i felt that he was gonna be depending on me a little to much. it was my first time ever rejecting an idiot for a spot.

and he obviously got someone else to help him eventually, with the spotter upright rowing his incomplete reps.

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I used to have these two morons come to the gym all the time and put on way more weight than they could handle. They get on the bench, load up 225lbs and then one would bench, the other row. The rower would be looking at himself flexing in the mirror the entire time. to make it worse, they looked like those assholes from that clone pic thats been posted. Thing is, when they didn’t come together, they would bench on the smith machine with only 185lbs… go figure

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Start squatting and quit jogging.

I may personally start some sort of an anti jogging movement throughout america.

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[quote]HvRv wrote:
hueyOT wrote:
elliot007 wrote:
you bench 240? @155lbs

i must be the weakest motherfucker alive.

pound for pound strength is generally higher in lighter athletes.

but not everyone has the same idea of what constitutes a legitimate bench…

I was wandering the same thing. All this skinny fuck’s show up with their numbers and I simply refuse to believe it until they post a video. 240 - that’s my digit and I’m 225 lbs and look waaaay beter than this scrawny dude.
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You’re one weak mo fo then dude

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[quote]Velvet Revolver wrote:
Start squatting and quit jogging.

I may personally start some sort of an anti jogging movement throughout america. [/quote]

My legs were never skinnier than when I jogged, not sure why I thought I was going to build powerful legs doing this, as well as squatting. I’ve stopped jogging, worked legs more and put almost 2 inches on the q tips in one year, too mad I need prolly another 2 or 4 to look anything but normal.

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[quote]Shakey D wrote:
HvRv wrote:
hueyOT wrote:
elliot007 wrote:
you bench 240? @155lbs

i must be the weakest motherfucker alive.

pound for pound strength is generally higher in lighter athletes.

but not everyone has the same idea of what constitutes a legitimate bench…

I was wandering the same thing. All this skinny fuck’s show up with their numbers and I simply refuse to believe it until they post a video. 240 - that’s my digit and I’m 225 lbs and look waaaay beter than this scrawny dude.

You’re one weak mo fo then dude[/quote]

Agreed. If I was 225lbs and could only bench in the 200’s, I would think something was severely wrong with me.

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[quote]Shakey D wrote:
HvRv wrote:
hueyOT wrote:
elliot007 wrote:
you bench 240? @155lbs

i must be the weakest motherfucker alive.

pound for pound strength is generally higher in lighter athletes.

but not everyone has the same idea of what constitutes a legitimate bench…

I was wandering the same thing. All this skinny fuck’s show up with their numbers and I simply refuse to believe it until they post a video. 240 - that’s my digit and I’m 225 lbs and look waaaay beter than this scrawny dude.

You’re one weak mo fo then dude[/quote]

yup… My bench sucks but it’s improving now that I changed my gym and started to use dumbells.XEXE
my strongest point is still my DL 460 raw from the floor. XEXE

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That was funny!!!

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Shakey D wrote:
HvRv wrote:
hueyOT wrote:
elliot007 wrote:
you bench 240? @155lbs

i must be the weakest motherfucker alive.

pound for pound strength is generally higher in lighter athletes.

but not everyone has the same idea of what constitutes a legitimate bench…

I was wandering the same thing. All this skinny fuck’s show up with their numbers and I simply refuse to believe it until they post a video. 240 - that’s my digit and I’m 225 lbs and look waaaay beter than this scrawny dude.

You’re one weak mo fo then dude

Agreed. If I was 225lbs and could only bench in the 200’s, I would think something was severely wrong with me.[/quote]

There’s still time for improvement. I’m a noob at this. Started 1 year ago so in the next 5 years or so my bench is going waaaay up.

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[quote]ObsceneJester wrote:
I’ve listened to alot of your advice and have accomplished alot of things, but not I’ve kinda gotten into a rut here is my schedule

9:30 a.m. -Run two miles
10:00 a.m.- Oatmeal (with Splenda) and 3 egg whites 1 whole egg, 1 Fish oil pill
12:00 p.m.- Workout
1:00 p.m.- Chicken Breast, Sweet Potatoes and Protein shake
3:00 p.m.- PB&J sandwhich on Wheat bread and Spinach Salad
5:00 p.m. - Tuna with Detour protein bar,
8:00. p.m.- Ground beef (washed under water to get greese off) Broccoli, Fish oil pill
10:00 p.m.- Casein Protein Shake

My workouts includes your split

Monday: Triceps/Chest (H.I.I.T)
Tuesday: Back/Biceps
Wednesday: Legs
Thrusday: Shoulders/Deltoids
Friday: Arms (varies) (H.I.I.T)
Saturday: Off
Sunday: Off

Supplements:
100% Whey Protein (ONs)
Fish Oil (ON’s)
BSN- No-eXplode
Casein Protein (ON’s)

Right now I’m stuck in a rut of losing weight (still got bottom pug on back and lower stomach) and would like to continue to get ride of the excess fat on my lower stomach and back but I’ve been working on it for sometime and it’s just seems to stop..

Is their something wrong with what I’m doing? What can I do in order to get rid of this.. I do, do the H.I.I.T on Monday’s and Fridays and I run every morning two miles.. My protein intake is up about 150-160 grams

Here is where I’m at… and I’m trying to lose that last bit of pug

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  1. Unlike some people I don’t really think running 2 miles is a problem, hell, when I was in the Marines, that was a warmup. Following Dr. Beraridi’s G-Flux Idea, I’d actually encourage you to raise your calories, and run 5 miles instead. However, doing this before your work isn’t really the optimum method. I suggest moving your running or workout so that one is in the morning and the other in the evening. Try not to do more than 4 hours of cardio a week.

  2. Your food quality is decent, but you’re light on the fruit and vegetables, start hitting the produce aisle big time.

  3. If you’re not doing so already, start keeping a food log, or preplan your meals and track compliance. You need to know your exact energy intake and macronutrient profile to move to the next level

  4. Without seeing the actual exercise choices it’s hard to say if your program is any good, but I wouldn’t call your split the best one out there. Looks like you’ve been reading too many muscle mags. Try switching to a push/pull/legs split, or some kind of total body training. Focus on compound movements as much as possible.

  5. Ignore everyone who’s giving you a hard time about the squats, the number one rule is not to injure yourself. That said, if it’s serious seek medical attention, if it’s not serious try doing a squat variation that doesn’t aggrivate it, front squats for example.

  6. Your fish oil intake is too low to produce results, up the dose or quit wasting your money.

  7. Start taking a thermogenic aid like HOT-ROX, but don’t expect a miracle, supplements will only account for about 5% of your results. You may need to experiment with several different products to find one that works well for you.

  8. Start taking creatine, you’re taking nitrous oxide, but ignoring the one supplement everyone agrees works for sure?

  9. Consume more protien, you’re at the minimum amount, but you’re dieting, and when dieting need extra. I’d bump it to 1.5g/lb of lean body mass, and if you don’t know how much that is, start measuring damnit!

  10. Congrats on losing 50lbs, however be aware that you’re swiftly approaching the point of diminishing returns and will need to consider a bulking cycle within the next few months.

  11. Good luck and keep coming back to T-Nation for knowledge.

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Check out the Former Fat Boy Handbook.

http://www.T-Nation.com/findArticle.do?article=05-118-diet

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[quote]blue9steel wrote:

  1. Unlike some people I don’t really think running 2 miles is a problem, hell, when I was in the Marines, that was a warmup. Following Dr. Beraridi’s G-Flux Idea, I’d actually encourage you to raise your calories, and run 5 miles instead.[/quote]

Why would tell this kid that he needs to run 5 miles?