Critique My "First" Cycle

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Hi, I have decided to embark on a cycle. I have done a lot of research, but there are a lot of conflicting opinions on what to do and how to do it. Please can some vets advise on my proposed cycle. I have included a brief history of my experience first for context:

AAS useage:

This is not technically my first as I did one about 6-7 years ago (Sust, Deca; Dbol) and gained a lot of size but also water retention/fat (diet was not brilliant, no PCT and training/diet slipped afterwards in the short term and then I went straight into a hard cut).

Training:

I have been weight training for 14 years, and taken it VERY seriously for the last 7 years. In that time I have had no more than 1 week off maybe twice, other than when I had back surgery (microdisceptomy) in Feb 2018.

Bodybuilding has been my life over the last 6 years, I take it VERY seriously.

I have tried many different routines (5x5, Bigger Leaner Stronger, Shortcut to Size, Kris Gethin’s, full body, 5 day split, etc) and have made some progress but never been happy and don’t think I look like someone who lifts much let alone as seriously as I do (I am very ectomorphic by nature, and when I first lifted a Dumbell at 20 years old I was 95lbs at 5foot 6 inch and I am currently 34 years old 150lbs and I imagine close to me fenetic potential as been stuck like this for a couple years)

Nutrition:

Every week’s nutrition is pre-planned and followed to a T where I track calories and macros (following IIFYM and during a bulking phase 50% cards, 30% protein and 20% fat) I have a cheat meal once a week and drink alcohol maybe once every 2 months if that. On cycle I plan to start at maintenance + 500kc at 40% Protein, 40% Carbs, 20% fat.

My Proposed First Cycle

Weeks 1-10:
200 or 250mg Test E Mon & Thurs
0.5mg Arimidex EOD

Weeks 11-12:
Nothing

Weeks 13 - 16:
2000iu hCG EOD

Weeks 13-18:
40mg Nolvadex ED

Weeks 11 →
Supplementation of creatine, BCAA, pre workout, fish oil, ZMA, possibly clen (for anti-catabolism rather than fat loss)

Any constructive critique and advice welcome.

Thanks in advance J

Richie

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Run the test at 500/week, drop the hCG, and run nolva 40/40/20/20.

You’ll be good to go.

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Do not do this. If you insist on using adex that’s fine but start with 0.25 post injection and increase from there. There should never be a need to go over 0.25 EOD.

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Thanks bro, so no hCG at all?

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I don’t insist on using it, just what I’ve seen. What would you suggest instead? Thanks

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No hcg.

As far as adex I don’t like it. Your running 4-500 mg test a week there is a good chance you will never need an AI. It’s just one more thing that you’ll need to worry about on cycle. If you do want to run it then try to keep it as low as possible. It’s a very strong drug and for me it created more problems then it solved.

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Thank you Zeek, I have no desire to run anything that isn’t absolutely necessary.

So would this be a better idea:

W1-12 500mg test e
W15-18 Nolva 40/40/20/20

Or do I need to add or change anything? Sorry for so many questions and I really appreciate your guidance.

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I think that’s fine. Pct would start week 14 not 15

Keep sodium low and diet clean no processed shit and it will eliminate a lot of bloat and excess water retention.

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I’m with him on the AI. Obviously keep it on hand, but I would suggest having enough nolva to run 20mg per day plus your planned pct incase gyno flares up. Crashed E2 is a terrible feeling that is hard to describe. Don’t be afraid of elevated E2 as it is actually beneficial.

Get bloods done around week 4 or 5 to see how things are going. Too many people start taking an AI at the first sign of sensitive nipples.

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No, it should start week 15; week 13 and week 14 would have nothing to let the test clear freon the least injection in week 12.

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I was reading it differently. As in the last pin would be the beginning of week 12.:man_facepalming:

I should have just said pct starts 2 weeks after your last pin. That’s my bad

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Thanks buddy. Can I just go to GP and ask for bloods or do I need a specialist?