Should I take my creatine on non-lifting days?
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[quote]RSx41 wrote:
Should I take my creatine on non-lifting days?
GO ILLINI![/quote]
Probibly because its cheap.
But, if you’re cheap, you don’t have to.
[quote]supermick wrote:
In addition, although CEE had a bad write up in a T-Nation article, and to date had no studies proving its effectiveness, there is plenty of anecdotal evidence about.
Has anyone tried CEE at all?
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I’ve read anicdotes for CEE both ways.
On T-Nation, it seems to be mostly as effective as CMH.
On one or two other forums that I looked at a bit, it seemed to be “the real deal” and “close to steroids”.
Just what I’ve heard.
[quote]RSx41 wrote:
Should I take my creatine on non-lifting days?
GO ILLINI![/quote]
yea take it on off days( cheap or not )
a bottle of creatine is cheap as hell so just do it you know you want to.
i’m on my third tub of CEE, that’s atleast 4 months now that i’ve been taking it…i actually see alot better results on CEE than regular creatine…i will tell you this though, the taste is horrible:) you do get used to it…but at first it was like taking a powder form of rubbing alcohol…i always take it with a protein shake and postworkout i mix in some dextrose which seems to help a bit…
Another consideration that people should take into account when using creatine is the fact that caffeine is a diuretic and can actually hinder the absorption of creatine into the muscles. Something to think about.
[quote]chrismcl wrote:
Another consideration that people should take into account when using creatine is the fact that caffeine is a diuretic and can actually hinder the absorption of creatine into the muscles. Something to think about.[/quote]
I’ve heard about that, but I’ve also heard that many studies on creatine were done with hot coffee.
As an 18 year old who has recently started lifting and has experienced modest gains, would anyone have any suggestions upon how wise/or not it would be to start using creatine?
cheers
[quote]Clash wrote:
As an 18 year old who has recently started lifting and has experienced modest gains, would anyone have any suggestions upon how wise/or not it would be to start using creatine?
cheers
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Only if you eat right and train properly.
There is many articles on how to do that on this site. As soon as you start doing that, you can start using creatine. IMHO.
[quote]MNguns wrote:
Step out of the box.
That being said.
5g-10g per day wk1
15g-20g per day wk2
25-30g per day wk3
35g-40g per day wk4
35g-40g per day wk5
25-30g per day wk6
15g-20g per day wk7
5g-10g per day wk8
This all depends on body weight, and tolerance w/ GI.
I’m ure this will raise a lot of eyebrows.
PM me if you would like to hear me out.
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Why not post the reasoning for such an unusual protocol here for all to see?
[quote]Nomancer wrote:
chrismcl wrote:
Another consideration that people should take into account when using creatine is the fact that caffeine is a diuretic and can actually hinder the absorption of creatine into the muscles. Something to think about.
I’ve heard about that, but I’ve also heard that many studies on creatine were done with hot coffee.[/quote]
Some Early studies i have read used Coffee and Tea as the delivery method for creatine (English tea, British study)…
Since then Coffee/tea has been found to hamper/be inadequate for creatine delivery (see study i listed on previous page, in addition there are several more).
Although their are several articles knocking about the internet pointing out no harm between coffee/tea and creatine they tend to point to flaws in other studies as the base of their claim rather than show studies that proove inconclusively that creatine is not affected by caffeine/coffee/tea.
In my opinion its what you americans call a no brainer. It (coffee/tea) does not improve delivery, offers no benefits, does not work synergistically with creatine. Why bother using it? or even debating it??
Just throw 3-5g in your post workout Surge or protein/dextrose mix and have done. Every day.
Although several artic
[quote]supermick wrote:
In my opinion its what you americans call a no brainer. It (coffee/tea) does not improve delivery, offers no benefits, does not work synergistically with creatine. Why bother using it? or even debating it??
Just throw 3-5g in your post workout Surge or protein/dextrose mix and have done. Every day.
Although several artic[/quote]
I think coffee/tea may have entered the debate because of the tendency for creatine to diffuse better in warm liquids supposedly becoming a more effective solution in the process. This has been discussed at great length previously. I have tried this method for the past few weeks and have had great success. Creatine has the tendency to cause me urethritis, so I don’t stay on it very long.
Using this method I have totally eliminated that side effect. However, because of the caffeine debate I simply mix my CEE in hot water and honey. It nixes the bitterness for the most part. I would highly recommend. I would also recommend CEE over monohydrate.
I would start a debate of some kind im sure.
Not interested in trying tpo proove myself or reasoning.
[quote]MNguns wrote:
I would start a debate of some kind im sure.
Not interested in trying tpo proove myself or reasoning.[/quote]
It’s not about trying to prove yourself. Although it may come too that. It’s about explaining the rationale so that others can see it and agree with it or possibly take you to task on it. Sounds to me like you have no physiological reason to overcomplicate a relatively simple process. Is there any intellectual reasoning behind such a bizarre loading schedule?
Is it normal for my creatine to not dissolve in gatorade? is it less effective if it does not dissolve?
GO ILLINI!
Book: Get Buffed! - Ian King , pages 273-276.
When I said I put coffee in my shake I meant instant coffee granules. I dont heat it up and then mix it I just throw about three tsp in with the protein and creatine and glutamine.
I drink this about 30 min before working out. By doing so I feel great and usually can fininsh my workout without cutting corners. Maybe I workout to soon after drinking my shake, but that is what I have to do…
[quote]yeoman8 wrote:
supermick wrote:
In my opinion its what you americans call a no brainer. It (coffee/tea) does not improve delivery, offers no benefits, does not work synergistically with creatine. Why bother using it? or even debating it??
Just throw 3-5g in your post workout Surge or protein/dextrose mix and have done. Every day.
Although several artic
I think coffee/tea may have entered the debate because of the tendency for creatine to diffuse better in warm liquids supposedly becoming a more effective solution in the process. This has been discussed at great length previously. I have tried this method for the past few weeks and have had great success. Creatine has the tendency to cause me urethritis, so I don’t stay on it very long.
Using this method I have totally eliminated that side effect. However, because of the caffeine debate I simply mix my CEE in hot water and honey. It nixes the bitterness for the most part. I would highly recommend. I would also recommend CEE over monohydrate.
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You can get CEE in caps too, in addition capping materials are available. Takes the battery acid type taste away so im told.
I respond well to mono, i have CEE but am yet to try it. When i start to PL a bit more ill report back on the experience.
Whe i take my creatine is it alright if i just put the scoop(1 tsp) in my mouth and take a drink and swallow it like a pill instead of putting it in my drink and shaking it up? I ask this bc the creatine doesnt dissolve in my gatorade and makes it very difficult to get all of it down. It all settles at the bottom and it takes me awhile to consume all of the creatine stuck in the bottle(constant refilling with water to wash it all out of the bottle).
[quote]RSx41 wrote:
Whe i take my creatine is it alright if i just put the scoop(1 tsp) in my mouth and take a drink and swallow it like a pill instead of putting it in my drink and shaking it up? I ask this bc the creatine doesnt dissolve in my gatorade and makes it very difficult to get all of it down. It all settles at the bottom and it takes me awhile to consume all of the creatine stuck in the bottle(constant refilling with water to wash it all out of the bottle).[/quote]
Wow! If you can handle the taste and can stomach putting creatine alone in your mouth. More power to you.
Here’s what I did when I needed to mix it with gatorade.
- Don’t mix the creatine until you are ready to drink it.
- Get a shaker bottle. I gaurentee if you shake the gatorade and creatine in a shaker bottle it will be alot easier to drink. If it settles shake it again.
- Try something other than gatorade. Grape juice, OJ, any juice. My favorite is NTS muscleade.