Craig Titus Prison Transfer

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[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:

[quote]worzel wrote:
I was thinking of bodybuilders that have come and gone and was wondering what they are doing and looking like now. Anyway Craig Titus came to mind (I am sure most of you know who he is and what he and his missus did) so I did a quick google search and found this!

1st Part

http://www.biggertube.com/video/887/Craig-Hannibal-Titus-Prison-Transfer

Parts 1, 2 & 3

http://www.tugagym.info/?p=179

It’s both disturbing & sad (waste of life for all concerned), but hey’ he is a convicted murderer and judging by the ‘platoon’ of guards escorting him out of his cell I assume he is also a volatile individual that warrants the use of that lecter-mobile.

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ehhh…that’s a cell extraction, not a prison transfer. if he didn’t come out, they would’ve went in, prolly after pumping it full of oC/CS. i don’t think that’s SOP for simply having someone exit a cell… and since he was strapped in, that means he’s a troublemaker.

while i’ve never met Titus, i think he’s a shithead…he’s a multiple felon who’s lucky he didn’t get killed by the drug dealers he rolled on. from a law abiding citizen’s perspective, he’s a violent offender who seems to think our rules don’t apply to him. from a criminal’s perspective, he’s a snitch who ratted people out, and then fucked up later.

most poeple in prison deserve to be there…prison’s much different than jail. jail is typically less than a year sentance, whereas prison is a year or more, and typically houses felons.

and i’m not saying everyone in a correctional facility is a bad person, but they’re prolly a criminal. regardless of their reasons, they think our rules don’t apply and we’re too stupid to figure it out. feel bad for them if you want, but i have yet to meet someone who hasn’t been in the clink for a legit reason.
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I’m glad YOU have never met someone in the clink for a non-legit reason. Reassures me that there isn’t anyone in prison for a non-legit reason.

Oh and the difference between jail and prison is usually whether they have been sentenced or not. [/quote]

no, you’re wrong.

jails can house people that are serving sentances, as can prisons. the severity of the sentence determines where they go… people can violate probation/parole for an offence, and still wait in prison for their violating offense. or, someone can get a 2 day sentance and serve it in jail.
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I said usually.[/quote]

whatever…that’s one of the smallest differences between the two.

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[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:

[quote]worzel wrote:
I was thinking of bodybuilders that have come and gone and was wondering what they are doing and looking like now. Anyway Craig Titus came to mind (I am sure most of you know who he is and what he and his missus did) so I did a quick google search and found this!

1st Part

http://www.biggertube.com/video/887/Craig-Hannibal-Titus-Prison-Transfer

Parts 1, 2 & 3

http://www.tugagym.info/?p=179

It’s both disturbing & sad (waste of life for all concerned), but hey’ he is a convicted murderer and judging by the ‘platoon’ of guards escorting him out of his cell I assume he is also a volatile individual that warrants the use of that lecter-mobile.

[/quote]

ehhh…that’s a cell extraction, not a prison transfer. if he didn’t come out, they would’ve went in, prolly after pumping it full of oC/CS. i don’t think that’s SOP for simply having someone exit a cell… and since he was strapped in, that means he’s a troublemaker.

while i’ve never met Titus, i think he’s a shithead…he’s a multiple felon who’s lucky he didn’t get killed by the drug dealers he rolled on. from a law abiding citizen’s perspective, he’s a violent offender who seems to think our rules don’t apply to him. from a criminal’s perspective, he’s a snitch who ratted people out, and then fucked up later.

most poeple in prison deserve to be there…prison’s much different than jail. jail is typically less than a year sentance, whereas prison is a year or more, and typically houses felons.

and i’m not saying everyone in a correctional facility is a bad person, but they’re prolly a criminal. regardless of their reasons, they think our rules don’t apply and we’re too stupid to figure it out. feel bad for them if you want, but i have yet to meet someone who hasn’t been in the clink for a legit reason.
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I’m glad YOU have never met someone in the clink for a non-legit reason. Reassures me that there isn’t anyone in prison for a non-legit reason.

Oh and the difference between jail and prison is usually whether they have been sentenced or not. [/quote]

no, you’re wrong.

jails can house people that are serving sentances, as can prisons. the severity of the sentence determines where they go… people can violate probation/parole for an offence, and still wait in prison for their violating offense. or, someone can get a 2 day sentance and serve it in jail.
[/quote]

I said usually.[/quote]

whatever…that’s one of the smallest differences between the two.[/quote]

Maybe so, but most crimes that people end up serving time for are longer than a year, and are usually in state courts held up in state court.

Jails = local jurisdiction short periods of holding, usually means waiting for sentencing or to be charged.

Prison = State and Federal jurisdiction, longer periods of time. Most people that get hit with state and federal jurisdiction aren’t being charged with a 6 month DUI rap, see what I mean?

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[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:

[quote]worzel wrote:
I was thinking of bodybuilders that have come and gone and was wondering what they are doing and looking like now. Anyway Craig Titus came to mind (I am sure most of you know who he is and what he and his missus did) so I did a quick google search and found this!

1st Part

http://www.biggertube.com/video/887/Craig-Hannibal-Titus-Prison-Transfer

Parts 1, 2 & 3

http://www.tugagym.info/?p=179

It’s both disturbing & sad (waste of life for all concerned), but hey’ he is a convicted murderer and judging by the ‘platoon’ of guards escorting him out of his cell I assume he is also a volatile individual that warrants the use of that lecter-mobile.

[/quote]

ehhh…that’s a cell extraction, not a prison transfer. if he didn’t come out, they would’ve went in, prolly after pumping it full of oC/CS. i don’t think that’s SOP for simply having someone exit a cell… and since he was strapped in, that means he’s a troublemaker.

while i’ve never met Titus, i think he’s a shithead…he’s a multiple felon who’s lucky he didn’t get killed by the drug dealers he rolled on. from a law abiding citizen’s perspective, he’s a violent offender who seems to think our rules don’t apply to him. from a criminal’s perspective, he’s a snitch who ratted people out, and then fucked up later.

most poeple in prison deserve to be there…prison’s much different than jail. jail is typically less than a year sentance, whereas prison is a year or more, and typically houses felons.

and i’m not saying everyone in a correctional facility is a bad person, but they’re prolly a criminal. regardless of their reasons, they think our rules don’t apply and we’re too stupid to figure it out. feel bad for them if you want, but i have yet to meet someone who hasn’t been in the clink for a legit reason.
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I’m glad YOU have never met someone in the clink for a non-legit reason. Reassures me that there isn’t anyone in prison for a non-legit reason.

Oh and the difference between jail and prison is usually whether they have been sentenced or not. [/quote]

no, you’re wrong.

jails can house people that are serving sentances, as can prisons. the severity of the sentence determines where they go… people can violate probation/parole for an offence, and still wait in prison for their violating offense. or, someone can get a 2 day sentance and serve it in jail.
[/quote]

I said usually.[/quote]

whatever…that’s one of the smallest differences between the two.[/quote]

Maybe so, but most crimes that people end up serving time for are longer than a year, and are usually in state courts held up in state court.

Jails = local jurisdiction short periods of holding, usually means waiting for sentencing or to be charged.

Prison = State and Federal jurisdiction, longer periods of time. Most people that get hit with state and federal jurisdiction aren’t being charged with a 6 month DUI rap, see what I mean?[/quote]

you kinda get it, but you’re off on a few things.

there shouldn’t be a whole lot of people hanging out in jail waiting to be charged, for one… that becomes a constitutional rights issue pretty quick.

secondly, most people don’t do any time, and most repeat offenders don’t do any time. usually it’s a suspended fine and time served… if they do time and it’s not a felony or DA, they’re prolly out on bail while awaiting the trial.

and i already explained how prisons and jails differ with severity of sentances-you just kinda paraphrased it.

if you wanna keep arguing this, then send me a PM.

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[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:

[quote]worzel wrote:
I was thinking of bodybuilders that have come and gone and was wondering what they are doing and looking like now. Anyway Craig Titus came to mind (I am sure most of you know who he is and what he and his missus did) so I did a quick google search and found this!

1st Part

http://www.biggertube.com/video/887/Craig-Hannibal-Titus-Prison-Transfer

Parts 1, 2 & 3

http://www.tugagym.info/?p=179

It’s both disturbing & sad (waste of life for all concerned), but hey’ he is a convicted murderer and judging by the ‘platoon’ of guards escorting him out of his cell I assume he is also a volatile individual that warrants the use of that lecter-mobile.

[/quote]

ehhh…that’s a cell extraction, not a prison transfer. if he didn’t come out, they would’ve went in, prolly after pumping it full of oC/CS. i don’t think that’s SOP for simply having someone exit a cell… and since he was strapped in, that means he’s a troublemaker.

while i’ve never met Titus, i think he’s a shithead…he’s a multiple felon who’s lucky he didn’t get killed by the drug dealers he rolled on. from a law abiding citizen’s perspective, he’s a violent offender who seems to think our rules don’t apply to him. from a criminal’s perspective, he’s a snitch who ratted people out, and then fucked up later.

most poeple in prison deserve to be there…prison’s much different than jail. jail is typically less than a year sentance, whereas prison is a year or more, and typically houses felons.

and i’m not saying everyone in a correctional facility is a bad person, but they’re prolly a criminal. regardless of their reasons, they think our rules don’t apply and we’re too stupid to figure it out. feel bad for them if you want, but i have yet to meet someone who hasn’t been in the clink for a legit reason.
[/quote]

I’m glad YOU have never met someone in the clink for a non-legit reason. Reassures me that there isn’t anyone in prison for a non-legit reason.

Oh and the difference between jail and prison is usually whether they have been sentenced or not. [/quote]

no, you’re wrong.

jails can house people that are serving sentances, as can prisons. the severity of the sentence determines where they go… people can violate probation/parole for an offence, and still wait in prison for their violating offense. or, someone can get a 2 day sentance and serve it in jail.
[/quote]

I said usually.[/quote]

whatever…that’s one of the smallest differences between the two.[/quote]

Maybe so, but most crimes that people end up serving time for are longer than a year, and are usually in state courts held up in state court.

Jails = local jurisdiction short periods of holding, usually means waiting for sentencing or to be charged.

Prison = State and Federal jurisdiction, longer periods of time. Most people that get hit with state and federal jurisdiction aren’t being charged with a 6 month DUI rap, see what I mean?[/quote]

you kinda get it, but you’re off on a few things.

there shouldn’t be a whole lot of people hanging out in jail waiting to be charged, for one… that becomes a constitutional rights issue pretty quick.
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If they can’t post bail, what are they supposed to do just let them go?

Talking about people that do serve time. And, poor people, which is most of the people in incarceration, can’t always get bail.

Not really.

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Just a technical point, but there is an order to the process of putting someone in jail. They are arrested, charged, and arraigned at which time bond is established, which they can either pay if able, or be held in jail pending their preliminary hearing or while the arrangements are made to make bond, which is to guarantee that they will show for their hearing. They may also be held without bond under certain conditions, but must be charged with a crime.

If they are held for more than a given period of time (24hrs. I think) without being charged, they are to be released.

(I’ve done it a few times)

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People who think the harsher the prisons are the more rehabilitated the prisoners get are so way out of line it’s not even funny. Try going to a maximum security prison in Indonesia, Pakistan, India etc where prisoners are treated like dirty slaves… that don’t make them better. Infact they are some of the hardest mofo’s i have ever seen. Wouldnt mind slitting your throat just to wear your shoes… this maloka guy must be smoking crack.

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he killed somebody, fuck him

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[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

If they can’t post bail, what are they supposed to do just let them go?
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you don’t go to jail very often if you haven’t been charged…what are they being held for? this is why i said it becomes a constituional rights issue.

most people don’t need to post bail, and those that do usually only need to pay a small percentage to a bondsman. it’s not like we’re doing a clean sweep throwing in all the poor people in prison…just because they don’t have money doesn’t make them criminals.

you don’t know what you’re talking about…

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[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

If they can’t post bail, what are they supposed to do just let them go?
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you don’t go to jail very often if you haven’t been charged…what are they being held for? this is why i said it becomes a constituional rights issue.
[/quote]

Okay, well I was assuming you’d understand that they were charged with something, not just sitting in jail with nothing being charged against them.

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most people don’t need to post bail, and those that do usually only need to pay a small percentage to a bondsman. it’s not like we’re doing a clean sweep throwing in all the poor people in prison…just because they don’t have money doesn’t make them criminals.

you don’t know what you’re talking about…[/quote]

I never said because they are poor they are criminals, but majority of criminals and especially majority of three strikers are poor people.

Yes, I know what I am talking about, you’re twisting my words.

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How is this only making it on here now? this happened back in '06
http://www.ergogenics.org/487.html

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[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

If they can’t post bail, what are they supposed to do just let them go?
[/quote]

you don’t go to jail very often if you haven’t been charged…what are they being held for? this is why i said it becomes a constituional rights issue.
[/quote]

Okay, well I was assuming you’d understand that they were charged with something, not just sitting in jail with nothing being charged against them.

[quote]
most people don’t need to post bail, and those that do usually only need to pay a small percentage to a bondsman. it’s not like we’re doing a clean sweep throwing in all the poor people in prison…just because they don’t have money doesn’t make them criminals.

you don’t know what you’re talking about…[/quote]

I never said because they are poor they are criminals, but majority of criminals and especially majority of three strikers are poor people.

Yes, I know what I am talking about, you’re twisting my words.[/quote]

okay, one last time to point this out…you said people sat in jail waiting to be charged, and i continued to point out that they don’t, and now you flip-flopped? i’m not twisitng your words…you’re not using the right terminolgy, or the terms you’re using you’re not using correctly.

if you wanna debate, then i suggest that you learn how the criminal justice system works. this is my profession. others have posted their experiences from the other side of the bars, which also contradicts what you’re saying.

but i’m done trying to explain this to you, since you’re not listening.

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[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

If they can’t post bail, what are they supposed to do just let them go?
[/quote]

you don’t go to jail very often if you haven’t been charged…what are they being held for? this is why i said it becomes a constituional rights issue.
[/quote]

Okay, well I was assuming you’d understand that they were charged with something, not just sitting in jail with nothing being charged against them.

[quote]
most people don’t need to post bail, and those that do usually only need to pay a small percentage to a bondsman. it’s not like we’re doing a clean sweep throwing in all the poor people in prison…just because they don’t have money doesn’t make them criminals.

you don’t know what you’re talking about…[/quote]

I never said because they are poor they are criminals, but majority of criminals and especially majority of three strikers are poor people.

Yes, I know what I am talking about, you’re twisting my words.[/quote]

okay, one last time to point this out…you said people sat in jail waiting to be charged, and i continued to point out that they don’t, and now you flip-flopped? i’m not twisitng your words…you’re not using the right terminolgy, or the terms you’re using you’re not using correctly.

if you wanna debate, then i suggest that you learn how the criminal justice system works. this is my profession. others have posted their experiences from the other side of the bars, which also contradicts what you’re saying.

but i’m done trying to explain this to you, since you’re not listening.[/quote]

Yes, they sit in jail to wait to be charged with a crime…the police have 24 or 48 hours (I am not sure) to charge someone before they have to let someone go…I don’t think I have a problem and I’m listening.

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[quote]belligerent wrote:
he killed somebody, fuck him[/quote]
2x

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[quote]biglifter wrote:
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He has one of those faces you’d never get tired of hitting.

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[quote]Nards wrote:

[quote]biglifter wrote:
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He has one of those faces you’d never get tired of hitting.[/quote]

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[quote]worzel wrote:

[quote]Nards wrote:

[quote]biglifter wrote:
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He has one of those faces you’d never get tired of hitting.[/quote]

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Are we sure Titus isn’t posting on TNation under the login name “bricknyce”?

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[quote]mokaloka99 wrote:
Really i dont give a shit about how people in prison are treated. IMO prison is way to easy. They have technology, tv, PCs, education, they get paid for their work, the list goes on. Complete bullshit. Depending on the severity of the prison and the inmates, i believe prison needs to be revamped.

No outside contact with anyone not related to the law system. No family, i dont care if your mom fucking died. You did the crime now live with it.

No sharing cells, no congregations, no meeting areas, no playing together, none of that. Complete isolation for everyone. 1 cell 4 walls, no window. you are allowed to leave your cell 1 time a day and escorted outside in a small fenced in cage where you can do whatever the fuck you want for 30 minutes. You are allowed 1 shower a WEEK. again on a schedule, showering alone.

If IFFFF you serve part of your sentence without any issues then you are allowed to make license plates or do laundry or whatever the hell menial lowly labor they can think of and you will not ever get a DIME for it. You will be happy to just be out of your cell for a few more hours a day.

No continuing education to make you better. WTF. You committed RAPE, MURDER, you are not going to get an education on my damn tax dollars.

So no i dont really give a damn if some COs treat the prisoners like shit. Good.

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Possibly stupidest post ever.

First, you realize, every prisoner is someone’s family or friend right?
You do realize there are innocent people in jail right now right?
You do realize that not everyone is in prison for rape or murder right?
You do realize that while you advocate treating them like animals, that someday, the majority of those prisoners will be released to become your neighbors or someone you could come into contact with right?
You do realize that all those luxuries you mentioned do not necessarily exist in all prisons right?
You do realize any “wages” they earn are minuscule and offset costs for various and sundry items.

Fucking dumb emotional post.

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[quote]mokaloka99 wrote:
and another thing, eventually the word will spread that prison is fucking brutal. You think it is brutal now? Wait until you have to sit in your cell 23:30 hours a day for YEARS, no contact with anyone. People would rather die than face that. It will crack the most hardened criminal. It wont stop criminal activity but in the long run it would help lower it. The more harsh the consequences the less amount of people are willing to break the rules.

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You got your head in your ass. Since when did harsh punishment actually deter anyone? They throw football numbers around for drug crimes, and there is no shortage of drug dealers. We know the punishment for murder, yet murders are still committed. Hell, a good number of inner city teenagers would be more than happy to take your life under the right circumstances. Please just STFU. You don’t know what you’re talking about. These are complex issues, that require solutions if we are going to advance as a society. And by the way, your measures are already largely in place in supermax prisons anyway. Big yawn.

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[quote]mokaloka99 wrote:
ok lets continue living in your world then. Where we have broken jail systems and dont want to improve them by cracking down on inmates more because we are worried about the 200 people falsely imprisoned over years. That makes no sense. If you are so concerned about those 200 people then you need should strive for changes in our judicial system not out our prisons.

Prisons are day camps for these hard core felons. They may scare the shit out of your whitebread white collar worker but not the average thug from the hood that has 12 cousins in the same fucking prison.

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At the risk of replying to your stupidity, there are INNOCENT people in jail including those found not guilty at trial, not just those released on DNA evidence. Are you really this fucking stupid? And Prof X clearly stated the system is fucked up. No one said don’t fix it. We just disagree with your idiotic solution.