The hospitqlization rate also wanes. Please read the latest topics on hospitqlization and virus spreading. I gave you pretty accurate data and links. Please do not link me to outdated research. No need. Please stop spreading misinformation about the vaccines. Lives are in danger. Or you think that covid is a joke?
I spread misinformation about the vaccines?
Potā¦ Calling kettleā¦
This isnāt worth fighting over. We can agree to disagree
Yes, you do. You present outdates data and claim (hyperbolizing) that the vaccines are magical cure. Latest research show that the vaccines having waning immunity and hospitalization protection. It starts waning in about 2-3 months after the second dose. While people people are extremely vulnerable between the 1st and about 1 month after the second dose. You are basically trading vulnerability for 2 months for a protection of 3 months and barely working protection for another 3 months maximum (lacks data for longer period; but everything suggests that it disappears). All this while humanity is facing the highest number of covid cases ever. You are playing a dangerous game here.
I never claimed they were a cure, this isnāt the first time youāve put words in my mouth
Theyāre better than nothing, but theyāre not perfect.
More effective than the flu shot thoughā¦
I donāt want to argueā¦ Agree to disagreeā¦
I could argue, but itās a waste of our time. Iām not going to change your POV, you wonāt change mine.
Iād be happy to have a civil discourse, but not a spat that involves you talking down to me and vice versa. The latter represents an unproductive waste of time, the former can be legitimately engaging.
I will try my best.
First it was vaccines will solve Covid.
Then it was vaccines do not provide lasting immunity.
Now it is going to vaccines do provide lasting protection against hospitalization.
Lastly it will be vaccines do not provide lasting protection against death.
Now it is becomming a booster shot. Soon it will become 4th booster shot. Then we will get a new variant. And booster shots will be required 3 times per year. Then 4 times per year. Then every month. Then after every meal?
I am sure by the end of the winter we will solve the issue with hospitalization rates. But I hope you see how the narative changes. I am not able anymore to find raw numbers of covid cases by vaccination status. It is all rates now and conclusions that unvaccinated people are 4 times more likely to get covid. Okay. But show me the numbers. We do not even argue about wanning immunity. It is accepted and they do not show the numbers anymore, they speak rates.
So waiting for the next step. Hospitalizations.
Correction: Thatās āeleventy-bazillion times more likelyā¦ā
I believe it will be like the flu, wherein a shot will be required every winter/autumn. However with the advent of Pfizerās new antiviral pill, if the preliminary data is to be believed I can see vaccine mandates being phased out entirelyā¦ I donāt like the mandates. Freedom is very easy to give up, but very hard to get back. I like what the Netherlands/Israel has done with the 3G system. Get vaccinated, recover from covid or show a negative test.
From the data Iāve seen, I donāt think unvaccinated people are 4x more likely to get covid, the number is closer 2x more likely
Iāll cover the rest of my response tomorrow, itās 2am here! I gotta get to sleep. Looking forward to having this conversation with you 
I imagine reality consists of a middle ground. Somewhere in between the beliefs you and I harbour, thus it is constructive to hear those with different viewpoints out.
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You say these Covid vaccines are dangerous? Who would have tought? So now they are not only useless, but dangerous as well?
Curious and curiouser. 27 YEAR OLD BODYBUILDER KILLED BY āSUDDEN ILLNESSā (bitchute.com)
Must just be another random, meaningless steroid death. Donāt anyone dare suggest anything otherwise!!!
I find it incredible that an adult who has had many years to discover what is and isnāt a credible source continues to post stuff like this as evidence.
For anyone whoās curious, the guy whose channel this is on is Jim Crenshaw, and the video description of this exact link is this:
Source: Bootcamp. Maybe fentanyl would have been safer? Another one of those āsuddenā deaths. āSuddenā or āUnexplainedā = Vaccinated. More videos you may have missed but would like to see:
Artificial Life: Clones & Synthetics - Nicki Minaj, 250 fetuses found, Gene Chips, Organic Robotoids
Rectently Fully Vaccinated Priest Dies On Live Stream
LADY GAGAāS GUICCI SATANlC TRANSFORMATION RlTUALā¦
The BEST KEPT SECRET of freeMASONRY is the RITUAL SODOMY of CHILDREN
A RACE OF GIANTS OUR FORBIDDEN HISTORY. (Removed from YouTube)
More on the black eyed babies (Pandemic vaccinated babies)
When you find the person who vaccinated your child without your consentā¦
WHY IS CERN CONTACTING SPIRITS?
The occult, black magic, rituals, symbolism, MK Ultra, The Illuminati and more
Head of German Hospital Commits Suicide-āāThereās no virus, itās a Dictatorship, disguised.āā
The invasion of this world by Demonic Aliens
Vaccinated Doctors are Dying and Unvaccinated Doctors are Quitting or Being Fired
Declassified Documents Reveal Fallen Angels - The Government Knows Aliens Are Really Demons
Bird gets āstuckā in mid air. Glitch in the matrix?
Karma Alert - Doctor Who Said He Wanted To Punch Aniti Vaxers Dead From Covid Vaccine
The Satanic Music Industry EXPOSED - THE DEVILāS CHOIR Satanic Propaganda In Modern Music
ACTUAL DEMON JUMPING INTO CROWD AT TRAVIS SCOTT RITUAL.- Richie From Boston
This man has a message for the politicians, cops and especially for the haters (hilarious)
FEMA EMPLOYEE WARNS OF FINAL DEPOPULATION MOVE COMING SOON - CELESTE SOLUM
There is a living creature inside the vaccine. It is immortal. The āHydra Vulgarisā See description.
ARCHONS: THE FORCE BEHIND EVERY GOVERNMENT - This is who the "Deep State or āShadow Governmentā is!
All from the guy who posted this video. My favorite is that second to last one: āthere is a living creature inside the vaccine. It is immortal.ā
Youāre totally right - youāre posting bipartisan sources nonstop in here. A pox on the YouTube dictatorship!
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Also, did you watch that 1 minute video?
Itās justā¦some tweets from the guy who died, who tweeted one thing about the vaccine, and then tweeted that heād had multiple surgeries (6, I think it was) before 30 years old, then tweeted he was getting surgery to remove his WPW from his heart, which must refer to Wolff-Parkinson-White syndrome, which is a heart condition, and then he dies.
I mean, you could just google āAndrew Ariegweā and the first link that would pop up would be his obituary.
āAndrew David Ariegwe, 27, passed away unexpectedly from a cardiac event on August 28, 2021, in his home in Plymouth, Minnesota.ā
And according to the video description, the creator of that video feels as if āunexpectedlyā is a hidden code word for a vaccinated death when a bodybuilder with a preexisting health condition and multiple surgeries dies from a cardiac event.
And you, presumably knowing all of this, triumphantly posted this link as evidence of the vaccine causing this guyās death.
That is just so strange.
I wouldnāt know about Crenshaw who posted the video. I havenāt watched the other videos, and I bet you havenāt either. They do sound rather interesting though, so thanks for letting me know. Thereās an awful lot so it might take a while to get through them. 
āUnexpectedlyā. Well you apparently donāt see the irony. A guy with a supposed congenital heart condition, taking steroids, coaching high school football, advocates for a vaccine, known to induce heart problems in otherwise healthy patients, It really wasnāt unexpected, was it.
I have no idea if the vaccine contributed it, but it seems he either wasnāt honest with his medical professionals, or was given some very bad advice by a blind Dr who couldnāt see that his patient was jacked on steroids.
Triumphant is your description, not mine. If it makes you feel any better, Iāll make sure you get the message if I ever die from covid, the vaccine, or steroids, so you can know what triumphant really feels like. I can almost feel the palpitations coming on and I donāt even have WPFā¦ or do I? Second thought I wouldnāt hold my breath if I was youā¦
ew, eee, ew, mamma I can see the light, its, its so beautiful.
This is a relative of Beyond Beyond. Iām sorry to say he was taken from us prematurely.
His dying wish was to let good ol Flappyboy know he was right all along. You can hold you triumphal parade any time you like buddy. 
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BBās relative here again. His other dying wish was to watch all these really cool videos. Sadly he didnāt get the chance. He was really beat up about it. 
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Oh! Hey, unfounded internet claim! I missed you.
I can imagine the tantrum Iād get if I asked you for sources that donāt include one minute bitchute videos of tweets, so I wonāt bother.
Your thought process is fascinating, dude. Guy with a heart condition takes steroids, which are ACTUALLY known to
And he dies, after his 6th heart surgery, having taken a bunch of steroids.
Iāll just be the one to let you know - you sound absolutely crazy, haha. Furthermore, standing by THAT source, knowing the information that person is putting out, and knowing that the video you posted contains no information whatsoever, speaks to your character, in a big way.
Ew my character, that hurtsā¦
Fuck dude, lighten up. Iām worried about your blood pressure. Why you so serious all da time? You keep taking the bait, everytime I throw something out, you bite.
I do like fishing, Iām a catch and release kind of guy.
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I thought the archons were fairly easy to defeat in XCOM2.
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