[quote]BantamRunner wrote:
From the fights I’ve seen of Silva on the ground he likes to be on his back and set up the triangle choke. The problem I think is that he can be outpointed that way. So just as Couture says…get him to the ground, smother, pound, stay chest to chest and away from the triangle. Boring but effective.
Silva’s trouble at LHW will be big guys like Couture…the LHW who is strong as hell and can wrestler. Couture has been the HEAVYWEIGHT champ. Silva is coming UP from 185 to fight at 205 and Couture has fought UP to the HW division. Speed and accuracy of strikes will only get you so far. Shoot, smother, pound.
Rashad Evans is another possible spoiler…a strong former HW.[/quote]
Then what happened against Henderson?? And you failed to mention that Couture only weighs 220. Remember how Forrest was supposed to be the bigger fighter and have size and strength advantage over Silva. And Rashad Evans? Spoiler? Yeah right.
I’m not necessarily disagreeing with all of your statements,it just has a lot of serious holes that you failed to address. But how you missed them is kind of sad.
[quote]snipeout wrote:
Unless your name is Fedor, Brock or Lyoto I don’t think you are beating Anderson. Maybe Carwin by sixe adavantage. I think the most interesting fight for Anderson would be Rampage. Keeping to the topic though I think Randy is great but not great enough to avoid those punches from the Spider.[/quote]
You honestly think that only those three can beat Anderson? Not to mention 2 of the 3 people you named are in the HW division an if I’m not mistaken Lyoto is his training partner. Where he lost to Daiju Takase who was 2 inches shorter and 3lbs lighter in the fight when he won… or Ryo Chonan who is significantly smaller than Silva when Chonan decided to use a flying scissor heel hook.
I agree that Randy will probably lose this fight. I’d like to see the fight against Randy vs Nog and then I could make a better prediction. However don’t make Anderson out to be this mythological figure that only people 100 pounds over him will win.
[quote]ALKoHoLiK wrote:
snipeout wrote:
Unless your name is Fedor, Brock or Lyoto I don’t think you are beating Anderson. Maybe Carwin by sixe adavantage. I think the most interesting fight for Anderson would be Rampage. Keeping to the topic though I think Randy is great but not great enough to avoid those punches from the Spider.
You honestly think that only those three can beat Anderson? Not to mention 2 of the 3 people you named are in the HW division an if I’m not mistaken Lyoto is his training partner. Where he lost to Daiju Takase who was 2 inches shorter and 3lbs lighter in the fight when he won… or Ryo Chonan who is significantly smaller than Silva when Chonan decided to use a flying scissor heel hook.
I agree that Randy will probably lose this fight. I’d like to see the fight against Randy vs Nog and then I could make a better prediction. However don’t make Anderson out to be this mythological figure that only people 100 pounds over him will win. [/quote]
I seem to recall Chonan winning most of that fight but I think Silva was either sick or injured. Long time ago, so can’t recall.
Agree on the last paragraph. There are a lot of great fighters out there now. Unless you pick and chose who you fight or avoid top competition, you are going to get beat eventually. There are quite a few fighters that looked unstopable for a short, or even relatively long, period of time. It always comes to an end if you are continually fighting top competition.
[quote]dhickey wrote: couture > Franklin in the clinch
He wasn’t too shabby at that Greco Roman stuff. [/quote]
For someone who is not a troll, your “insights” are always moronic and lame. Do you train or at least pay attention to this stuff?
Thai clinch is not the same as Greco clinch, and the Greco clinch doesn’t involve getting kneed and elbowed.
Couture’s only way to win would be to pin Silva up against the cage, and dry hump him. Good luck doing that for 15 minutes. Couture’s jaw is nothing like Henderson’s. Couture would get KTFO.
[quote]dhickey wrote:
Silva has been to the mat before. There is no reason to think Randy wouldn’t stand as good or better shot than anyone to get it there. He is also pretty tough in the clinch. He manhandled Gonzaga from the clinch and held his own against Lesnar.
To suggest that Randy has no shot is insane. The guy is a solid fighter regardless of his age. He’s also smart enough not to fight Silva in space if he can help it. Could he get tapped on the chin? Sure, but I’ll take the guy less likely to stand and trade with Silva. You want to see him continue to go against other strikers, fine. I think someone with different skills make a much more interesting match-up.[/quote]
LOL. How old are you?
Couture is 16-9.
His “greatness” is the product of UFC myth-making.
Stop being so gullible by believing everything a person in an “authority” position tells you.
[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
dhickey wrote: couture > Franklin in the clinch
He wasn’t too shabby at that Greco Roman stuff.
For someone who is not a troll, your “insights” are always moronic and lame. Do you train or at least pay attention to this stuff?
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I don’t train. Just a fan. This has been established many times over and is the reason I don’t post in the training threads. As for paying attention, yes. I have seen every and own virtually every UFC card. See almost every non-bushido Pride event and own most. I watch as much as I can on versus, spike, HDNET, and local cable access channels.
Good thing he isn’t just a wrestler competing in thai boxing.
Maybe. Out of any MMA skill, what is A Silva’s weakest? Would you continue to put him against guys that are B level versions of him, ie same strengths but not quite as good. Or would like to see him fight guys are of similar caliber in different diciplines? Don’t scratch your head too hard on this one.
[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
dhickey wrote:
Silva has been to the mat before. There is no reason to think Randy wouldn’t stand as good or better shot than anyone to get it there. He is also pretty tough in the clinch. He manhandled Gonzaga from the clinch and held his own against Lesnar.
To suggest that Randy has no shot is insane. The guy is a solid fighter regardless of his age. He’s also smart enough not to fight Silva in space if he can help it. Could he get tapped on the chin? Sure, but I’ll take the guy less likely to stand and trade with Silva. You want to see him continue to go against other strikers, fine. I think someone with different skills make a much more interesting match-up.
LOL. How old are you?
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I will be 34 on Sept. 12th. I can PM you my addr if you would like to send me a card.
Do you watch fights or just look at records?
There is certainly plenty of hype around RC, but this has nothing to do with my view on his chances with AS. Watch the fights, assess strengths and weaknesses, make a call. Fun isn’t it. Oh wait, I guess I forgot to look at his record.
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Stop being so gullible by believing everything a person in an “authority” position tells you.[/quote]
Who is telling me what exactly?
Nobody told me that Randy has done pretty well against larger apponents than A Silva including manhandling them in the clinch. I’ve see that for myself.
Nobody told me that Randy’s strengths are not Siva’s strengths. I figured that one out on my own beleive it or not.
I didn’t pick Randy against Gonzaga. I didn’t pick Randy against Lesnar. I am not some blind nuthugger. Just looking at the skills he possess and how they match-up against Silva’s.
I doubt I would put any money on Couture against Silva unless he was a huge dog, but I also don’t beleive it would be a complete mismatch and that there are only two people on the planet that can beat Silva.
I seem to recall Chonan winning most of that fight but I think Silva was either sick or injured. Long time ago, so can’t recall.
Let’s ask Josh Barnett:
guess i have to go watch it again
josh needs to watch that fight again. it was actually a better fight than i remember.[/quote]
Yeah it was…Silva was off that fight…he got the better of the stand-up,but those two yellow cards had him losing if it went to decision. Too close of a fight even before the flying heel hook.
