Could Anything Drive You to Suicide?

OK granted inflammation can accompany osteoarthritis, but it’s not the aetiology. The cause of OA is the mechanical destruction of articular carltilage, which results in joint stiffness and a loss of the joint’s capactity for shock-absorbtion (hence more force is recieved at the bone surface).

The medical community tends to label every musculosketal pathology as an inflammatory condition. Yet, the primary tissue involved (cartilage) does not even contain blood vessels, so it cannot become inflammed. Yes inflammation of the synovium and other structures may occur secondarily to joint degeneration, but that’s not a characteristic of the OA disease itself.

[quote]vroom wrote:
huslinbriks wrote:
VROOM, that’s rheumatism… totally different condition. Osteoarthritis is not an inflammatory disease

http://www.arthritis.org/conditions/diseasecenter/oa/oa_overview.asp
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There are several stages of osteoarthritis:

Cartilage loses elasticity and is more easily damaged by injury or use.

Wear of cartilage causes changes to underlying bone. The bone thickens and cysts may occur under the cartilage. Bony growths, called spurs or osteophytes, develop near the end of the bone at the affected joint.

Bits of bone or cartilage float loosely in the joint space.

The joint lining, or the synovium, becomes inflamed due to cartilage breakdown causing cytokines (inflammation proteins) and enzymes that damage cartilage further.

Changes in the cartilage and bones of the joint can lead to pain, stiffness and use limitations. Deterioration of cartilage can:

  • Affect the shape and makeup of the joint so it doesn?t function smoothly. This can mean that you limp when you walk or have trouble going up and down stairs.

  • Cause fragments of bone and cartilage to float in joint fluid causing irritation and pain.

  • Cause bony spurs, called osteophytes, to develop near the ends of bones

  • Mean the joint fluid doesn?t have enough hyaluronan, which affects the joint?s ability to absorb shock.

  • Result in inflammation.
    Osteoarthritis most commonly occurs in the weight-bearing joints of the hips, knees and lower back. It also affects the neck, small finger joints, the base of the thumb and the big toe. OA rarely affects other joints except when injury or stress is involved.

It is important that you take an active role in the treatment of your OA and in prevention of additional joint damage.
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Inflammatory processes plays a key role in many diseases. While it may not be part of the onset, it seems to be involved afterwards.

http://www.arthritis.ca/types%20of%20arthritis/osteoarthritis/default.asp?s=1

Osteoarthritis is classified as non-inflammatory arthritis. This suggests that there is no inflammation (swelling), but recent research shows that this is not true. Although there is usually no swelling in the early stage of the disease, as the arthritis progresses there can be inflammation. Bits of cartilage may break off and float around inside the joint. This disturbs other soft tissues inside the joint and can cause pain and swelling between bones. The result is you may have trouble moving the joint.
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If the poster of this would get:

  1. To choose from 200 brides to make his bride every single night.
  2. Recieves $50,000 a month for the next 240 months, no strings, no gotchas, he’s clean
  3. Can go where he please

You think he’d still be “depressed”?

[quote]djrobins wrote:
If the poster of this would get:

  1. To choose from 200 brides to make his bride every single night.
  2. Recieves $50,000 a month for the next 240 months, no strings, no gotchas, he’s clean
  3. Can go where he please

You think he’d still be “depressed”?[/quote]

yes. i’d be less stressed out and more able to distract myself from my problems but nothing can replace my musculoskeletal health

[quote]huslinbriks wrote:
djrobins wrote:
If the poster of this would get:

  1. To choose from 200 brides to make his bride every single night.
  2. Recieves $50,000 a month for the next 240 months, no strings, no gotchas, he’s clean
  3. Can go where he please

You think he’d still be “depressed”?

yes. i’d be less stressed out and more able to distract myself from my problems but nothing can replace my musculoskeletal health[/quote]

Briks, Don’t be so quick to assume this to be a rhetorical question. First find out if he’s making an offer. Sounded like Alpha Female was ready to breakout her checkbook, too!

[quote]djrobins wrote:
If the poster of this would get:

  1. To choose from 200 brides to make his bride every single night.
  2. Recieves $50,000 a month for the next 240 months, no strings, no gotchas, he’s clean
  3. Can go where he please

You think he’d still be “depressed”?[/quote]

Honestly, what is the basis of this?

Do you realy think that filling a void with junk is going to make a person feel better, when the essential component of being able to enjoy what you have is missing?

I realize that this may be one of those trick questions, but realy, I’ve never seen anything so superficial in my entire life.

For the OP- I wish you the best. Circumstances are different for everybody, and I can’t give you any advice on yours, but in my own case- I had to find something to love. When I found that, I had something to live for. That made life more tollerable. It took a long process to build from there, but now I love life. I live to live.

If that sounds good, give it a shot. Whats the worst that can happen?

It’s been 32 months since I started this thread. I had no idea how good I had it back then. What a fucking brat I was.

I tried telling you man

Yep…and in another 32 months you’re going to realize how good you have it now. So stop being a bitch and live your life.

You don’t get any sympathy from me. If you wanna off yourself do it. If not, move on.

Im sure a lot of people have contimplated suicide.

[quote]SeanParent wrote:
Yep…and in another 32 months you’re going to realize how good you have it now. So stop being a bitch and live your life.

You don’t get any sympathy from me. If you wanna off yourself do it. If not, move on.

Im sure a lot of people have contimplated suicide.[/quote]

I no longer want to off myself. Life goes on.

Poor chemical environment in your brain will drive you to suicide - simple as that.

[quote]huslinbriks wrote:
SeanParent wrote:
Yep…and in another 32 months you’re going to realize how good you have it now. So stop being a bitch and live your life.

You don’t get any sympathy from me. If you wanna off yourself do it. If not, move on.

Im sure a lot of people have contimplated suicide.

I no longer want to off myself. [/quote]

Thats wat she said i think

No.

As far as I’m concerned when I die that’s the end of my existence.

All my experiences, memories and feelings simultaneously cease to exist.

Why would you want to die? Shit gets tough sometimes but don’t you want to exist for a long as humanly possible?

Try to wrap your mind around not existing, seriously, it’s messed up.

Don’t go see a psychiatrist, they are supposed to help people that have real mental disorders, like schizophrenia. I don’t know how it works for you in the US, but here that’s what they do.

Anyway, if you really have suicidal tendecies, you should seek help from people that it’s their job to help people with your problem, like psychologists.

Edit: after thinking about it, I would add that if his suicidal tendencies come from a real mental disorder (like bipolar disorder) he needs to see a psychiatrist. Anyway…

[quote]huslinbriks wrote:

I no longer want to off myself. Life goes on. [/quote]

How has your health been thus far? Did you find anything that has helped your condition or the pain associated?

[quote]SeanParent wrote:
Yep…and in another 32 months you’re going to realize how good you have it now. So stop being a bitch and live your life.

You don’t get any sympathy from me. If you wanna off yourself do it. If not, move on.

Im sure a lot of people have contimplated suicide.[/quote]

this guy is making progress and you call him a bitch?
way to be supportive, dick.

[quote]huslinbriks wrote:
It’s been 32 months since I started this thread. I had no idea how good I had it back then. What a fucking brat I was.[/quote]

Briks, try Resveratrol. I know you hate sups, but what the hell give it a shot for a few months.

Glad to see the OP updated the thread. Glad to see things have turned for the better.

One of my best friends of 15 years killed himself with a gun almost 5 weeks ago. His wife will have their daughter any day now. It is sad.

If you don’t like psychologists I would suggest Cognitive psychology. It is not sitting around complaining or talking about your parents, but a lot of it is writing exercises and examining what you feel and proving to yourself the world is not what you are afraid it is.

Also check out the book Mind over Mood.

Cut simple sugars out of your diet except as post workout, cut alcohol out, live clean and work out, these simple steps really help a lot.

edit: saw this is old, glad to see you are feeling better. Keep working at it.

[quote]JGerman wrote:
Glad to see the OP updated the thread. Glad to see things have turned for the better.

One of my best friends of 15 years killed himself with a gun almost 5 weeks ago. His wife will have their daughter any day now. It is sad.

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Wow…
That actually makes me sad.

[quote]JGerman wrote:
Glad to see the OP updated the thread. Glad to see things have turned for the better.

One of my best friends of 15 years killed himself with a gun almost 5 weeks ago. His wife will have their daughter any day now. It is sad.

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Holy shit! He must have had some serious imbalances to kill himself with a kid on the way. That’s beyond my comprehension.