Just a quick question.
Cottage cheese contains (although small) amounts of fat and carbs.
Do you guys normally use it as a P+F meal or P+C.
For my post workout meal last night I mixed some cottage cheese with whey powder and flax oil, but then realised as the cottage has carbs in it, this was a P+F+C meal.???
Jay,
Key words I noticed in your post.
Post workout meal AND fat.
You would be hard pressed to find anyone here on t-mag who would admit to eating any amount of fat in a post workout meal! This is the time where you want to shuttle high quality carbs and amino acids into muscle, NOT fat. Having high blood levels of carbs AND fats at the same time is just a HUGE no no and will only hinder your progress in the weight room. Unless of coarse, your goal is to look like the Goodyear blimp…;o)
To answer your question, I generally use cottage cheese as part of a P+C meal, although my meal before I go bed includes 1 cup of cottage cheese, scoop of low carb Grow and fish oil capsules. When you think about it, one serving of cottage cheese usually has around 7 grams of carbs, which is no big deal…so eating it with a P+F meal isn’t unheard of.
However…I am a bit worried about your choice of food post training! Flax oil (while a GREAT choice of fat)…should not be consumed post training. Like I said before…the hours after training should be focused on spiking insulin levels with some quality carbs and amino acids. Read up on some article concerning post workout nutrition:
“Solving the Post Workout Puzzle Parts I and II”
Take care my man and don’t hesitate to ask if you have anymore questions…Tony G
Jay,
I am pretty sure most would consider it a Protein source even though it has carbs. The carbs are from lactose and not cellulose/fiber content.
I use it as a P+C meal because I eat 16ozs at a time (higher carb count, little fat).
I eat fat free cottage cheese as part of a P+C meal. I usually add fruit to it because I think that makes it taste better!
Lisa
I eat 4% Cottage Cheese as part of P+F meals. Tastes better too !
I’m trying to cut, and get my body fat down a few %'s.
Immediately after working out I use surge, but I thought I should be using a P+F afterwards just before bed or should it be P+C?
The T-dawg diet II mentions that the only time you shoul eat crabs is at breakfast and in the post workout shake.
Fat free is P+C or part of a P+C meal and regular is P+F if less then 10 grams of carbs which is usually less than a cup. I’d use it as a pre workout meal and never a post workout meal. Some fat free cottage cheese with some fruit maybe an hour before wouldn’t hurt. For real pre and post work out stick with Surge or your own formula which contains the same main ingredients- malto, hydrolyzed whey, casein, and milk protein. Cottage cheese is best used as a P+F in conjunction with some sort of animal protien like turkey or beef. The best times would be an early P+F meal or a before bed meal.
Jay,
the nice thing about cottage cheese is it goes both ways. I prefer the fat free stuff because then it becomes more versatile. It can be combined with oatemeal to make a low II P+C meal. If you mix it with fats then it makes a nice P+F meal. Sometimes I have to train late at night so unfortunately my last meal is a P+C. I will then mix cottage with whey, and grape juice. This is not the optimum post workout meal but sometimes we don’t have perfect schedules.
I would say it could be used as both. 250 grams of cottage cheese has 30g pro, 14g carbs and 0.8g fat. I believe 14g of carbs is an acceptable amount in a P+F meal. Of course you are going to have to add fats with flax seed oil or some other fat source.
eat fat free, then you don’t have to worry about p+f.
Usually P+F, but it depends on my schedule. If it’s my meal before bed it’s a cup of fat-free cottage cheese w. a small amt. of fruit (either pineapple, strawberries or blueberries) and 1/2 scoop low-carb Grow, mixed raw nuts and fish oil.
If it’s P+C I’ll do the same cheese recipe as above along with a Granny Smith apple or an orange, and 1/2 cup mixed beans and 3-4 fish oil caps.
Jay,
Don’t worry about it, it’s all good. A typical meal of my own is one cup of fat-free cottage cheese (i.e. 8g of carbs), two scoops of low-carb Grow! (i.e. 6g of carbs) and one ounce of raw mixed nuts (i.e. 5-6g of carbs). Obviously, cottage cheese can be used in conjunction with carbs for a P/C meal, as earlier alluded to.
I don’t have a problem with you eating the P/F meal after your training if fat loss is your sole priority, especially since you’re getting in a serving of Surge.
However, if you’re following a T-Dawg type diet, I feel that a much more effective way of handling your carbs is to have them all during and after training, albeit split into two or more servings.
Studies have shown that fat is a significant muscular enenrgy source (aerobic metabolism) during recovery. They also show that fast twitch dominant individuals have less intramuscular fat than aerobic athletes so fat requirements are less necessary but by no means redundant post workout.
I got this info off Ovid but Pubmed prob has it as well. Most tertiary sponsored search engines like it can be reached off campus through uni library websites. they obviously don’t check ip addresses.
Slightly of topic here but…How do you people eat these large quantities of cottage cheese without gagging on every spoonful so it ends up taking 2 hours to eat? I’m just curious because I’ve had a big container of it in my fridge for months but can’t get myself to come near it. Any tips on ways of making it edible?
I eat it straight out of a 48 oz container. I actually like the taste of cottage cheese. Ironically, I don’t like other “white, creamy” things such as blue cheese, sour cream, ranch dressing, mayonnaise, etc.
Sometimes, I will mix up 16oz of cottage cheese with fruit (strawberries, pineapple, peaches or blueberries), Grow or some granola.
Cottage cheese plus Low Carb Grow plus ice. Blend thick and eat with spoon. Use chocolate Grow and sprinkle with walnuts. Heavenly.
Also, there’s a big difference between cottage cheese brands. Low fat is better tasting than totally fat free too. (Low fat = only 1-2 grams of fat per serving)
I find cottage cheese doesn’t really taste like anything.