Coronavirus - What Happened?

Includes a link to the study. Not sure how much credence to lend it though.

Edit: not because Oxford produces schlubs, but because it seems to be so at variance with the experiential data.

1 Like

I’m interested to see what they find with the testing, it’s possible that this is a major overreaction. It would be nice if that turns out to be the case. The thing is that a lot of viruses go around in the winter anyway, it could just be that we had one this year that is a bit more severe than usual.

I don’t really know what to think, I would be glad to get things back to normal.

@ActivitiesGuy
@EyeDentist

Wouldn’t we all?

The Brits just think they are exceptional and what is happening in Spain, Italy and now nyc, won’t happen to them.

Or the best research university in the world has a study to be examined. Could be either.

I was also reading something the other day about how they are theorizing that it might have been going around in Italy for much longer than they realized. See this:

How did coronavirus start spreading in Italy?

Officially it began in Feb. 20, when a 38-year-old man checked himself into a local hospital in the town of Codogno in Lombardy. He tested positive with the virus, becoming the first recorded patient with the COVID-19 virus in Italy.

Yet some health officials believe that the virus arrived in Italy long before the first case was discovered. ā€œThe virus had probably been circulating for quite some time,ā€ Flavia Riccardo, a researcher in the Department of Infectious Diseases at the Italian National Institute of Health tells TIME. ā€œThis happened right when we were having our peak of influenza and people were presenting with influenza symptoms.ā€

Before the first case was reported, there was an unusually high number of pneumonia cases recorded at a hospital in Codogno in northern Italy, the head of the emergency ward Stefano Paglia told the newspaper La Repubblica , suggesting it is possible patients with the virus were treated as if they had a seasonal flu. Health facilities hosting these patients could have become sites for infection, helping proliferate the spread of the virus.

Or maybe it was an overreaction and too late? Too early to tell based on what we know, but it’s possible.

Apologies, it may only be in the top 5 university research departments in the world, depending on the survey. Clearly we should ignore it.

The fact is that right now anyone with a minor, insignificant cold is being told to self-isolate for 14 days. Whatever the truth turns out to be, we certainly have an abundance of precaution at the moment.

Where exactly are the publishers of that site located?

The Times rankings are from the Times of London. I’ll bet you cant find a single source rating them below 10th best in the world though.

I defy you to find a department on earth that doesn’t take Oxford findings seriously.

1 Like

Maybe a Chinese source?

I dunno, with the amount of students they send there, I imagine they’d want to not deflate it too hard.

And for the record, I am not proposing any policy other than ā€˜test for antibodies’ which I think is something we can absolutely all agree on.

1 Like

In case people continue to doubt the serious nature of this for people. A kid on the team under me has a child who is highly special needs and is fed through the stomach. I have no idea what those buttons are actually called, but his family was told at the hospital that they would give them just one and were almost out with no idea when replacement would be here.

Our current options would be drive the kid 30 minutes for feedings every few hours or have him admitted to the hospital and have a feeding tube put down his throat.

I will note that I don’t know how much if any of this shortage is directly related to corona just that we have never had this issue before from the children’s hospitals we work with in the KC area.

Something we can all agree on is that Stanford is the best. Top 3 academically and won the past 25 directors cups (best athletic program in nation)…with only 7000 undergrads. Only geniuses or super athletes allowed.

The Argument Clinic.

Full of shit. I heard they never reported on the fake moon landing and 9/11 being an inside job. Have they ever covered the Holocaust hoax?

1 Like

TouchƩ

Don’t you see, it’s the perfect alibi!

Yeah, they should get on that fast. Whatever it costs is surely less than shutting down half the planet.

Nobody here is suggesting to let this run its course and get out of control, we have already established that this is not a feasible option. It is serious, but the statistics already show that it is not severe for the vast majority of people. It’s too early to decide anything, but the best option right now would be something that limits the spread while not shutting everything down. Isolate those at risk, put more resources into healthcare, and continue life with some semblance of normalcy. Otherwise we are fucked, either medically or economically.