Coronavirus - What Happened?

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/facts.html#:~:text=Will%20a%20COVID,COVID-19%20vaccines.

your source, despite it being the CDC, is not accurately describing what CRISPR CAS-9 does.

ā€œCRISPR-Cas9 is a unique technology that enables geneticists and medical researchers to edit parts of the [genome?](javascript:void(ā€œClick to expand this glossary termā€)) by removing, adding or altering sections of the [DNA?](javascript:void(ā€œClick to expand this glossary termā€)) sequence.ā€

ā€œThese technologies allow genetic material to be added, removed, or altered at particular locations in the genome. Several approaches to genome editing have been developed. A recent one is known as CRISPR-Cas9ā€¦ā€
https://cen.acs.org/biological-chemistry/Video-CRISPR-Cas9-works/98/web/2020/10
ā€œCRISPR-Cas9 combines a protein that can neatly snip DNA with a molecule that guides those molecular shears to a specific spot in an organism’s genome.ā€

I could go on for days… The CDC is intentionally misleading people. I made a lengthy post on another thread, in summary stating that scientific institutions aren’t being forthright about these vaccines and their potential implications, and that peer reviewed studies would normally be ALL OVER these vaccines - but they aren’t. There’s a haziness about the information being put out there and its fucking concerning.

CRISPR edits the DNA of the virus, but CRISPR is no where near you to alter your DNA. It doesn’t turn the virus mRNA into little CRISPR machines that go in and edit your DNA.

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Did we travel back in time? This isn’t the spring of 2020 and Ionnadis’ IFR predictions you’ve posted were disproven by, you know, actual events that transpired.

Yes. That’s why you neither of us has seen in real life children on crutches from polio.

More than 200k people who died from Covid and were under 70 would have probably disagreed with that statement.

Polio had a pretty severe lethality rate in children and adolescents compared to Covid. If someone wants to get vaccinated, or vaccinate their children - then they should be free to do so! But if you dont want to get vaccinated or vaccinate your children - you should be allowed not to without discrimination.

shall we look at the metrics regarding how many of those people had underlying conditions? as implied in the same exact sentence you quoted…
No one here is downplaying that covid is bad. It’s that the damage covid causes is overstated for political and monetary gain, and people seem to be fucking blind to it. The whole ā€˜pandemic’ is being used as a tool by anyone who has something to gain from it, but please do keep ignoring it.
I’m not against vaccines, I’m against being forced to get them - particularly considering how low risk the virus is.

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Polio had an infection fatality rate (IFR) of 0,1%, around ten times less than Covid. Around 0,5% of those infected become paralyzed. The high fatality rate is for those infected displaying symptoms.

There’s no way humanity would have eradicated polio nowadays with all this anti vaxx propaganda.

Had the Salk polio vaccine been invented now, I could very well imagine someone like Tucker or Hannity explaining how ā€œhe’s willing to decide himself about the welfare of his children for a disease that is asymptomatic in 95% of casesā€ and ā€œhow it would be introducing communist tyranny to vaccinate all children and adults for a disease that affects only 0,02% Americans each yearā€ (those were pre-vaccine polio numbers in the US)

No, the danger from the virus is intentionally minimized for political and monetary gain.

ā€œThe case fatality ratio for paralytic polio is generally 2% to 5% among children and up to 15% to 30% among adolescents and adults. It increases to 25% to 75% with bulbar involvement.ā€

It disproportionately affected children, as i stated in my response.
I will not argue further because I see no point and honestly i no longer care. Just let people live their lives, its a pretty easy thing to do honestly.

I agree with this, but I will say that private business should be allowed to not serve someone if they deem being unvaccinated a risk to their business. I’d go as far as to say some public resources (public schools, public transportation) should be allowed to make that call too. That’s just my somewhat libertarian take on the matter. Businesses should also be able choose to not serve vaccinated people if they choose. It goes both ways.

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I can’t debate statistics, because I don’t care enough to look them up. I also have lived through the past year-and-a-half and can see what statistics mean when it comes to something like this. I find myself torn between believing COVID-19 stats are just inflated, and between believing that all past pandemics were exactly the same.

I agree with this now, as much as i agreed with it when that christian baker refused to make a wedding cake for a gay couple. Customer’s cannot impose their will on a business, they can only choose to buy or not to buy from them. Libertarian rights all the way

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I thought it was a bit silly at the time. I think it actually worked out as a pretty strategic business decision on his part though.

he has actually been sued a few times because libbies are targetting him for not getting their way. Recently he was asked to bake a cake for gender reassignment surgery and it was supposed to be like a devil getting cut open to have both colors inside or some nonsense. Again, he won in court this time as well - but he’s getting targetted for his beliefs. If he were Jewish, they would call it anti-semitism, but theres no such thing as discrimination against christians (joking, sort of).

But government should not punish or attempt to prohibit private businesses from doing business with the unvaccinated/dirty/homosexual/darkly-colored/etc. Most businesses have ā€œprohibitedā€(hasn’t been heavily enforced, as best I can tell) people during this COVID stuff due to government regulations and threats.

I think the big problem here is if you were to translate this problem into the 1960’s and changed ā€œunvaccinatedā€ to ā€œblackā€, the govt specifically had to force business into allowing customers of all age, race, religion, etc. Liberals have gone full circle to find themselves on the side of the oppressors.

Update
I should clarify that i don’t agree with government involvement in most business. Just stating an observation.

A buddy of mine moved to Colorado (where that baker is). His parents are uber Catholic. They made a trip to buy stuff from him. Apparently, his shop was busy at the time. Lot of out of town people go to support him because they agree with his cause.

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I’m glad to hear that honestly. What happened (and continues to happen) to him isn’t right.

ā€œLess than 1% of all polio infections in children result in flaccid paralysis.ā€ [same source]

@loppar is correct that covid is far more deadly than polio.

It’s actually not easy to do when 1) one lives in society, and 2) highly infectious conditions exist. Honestly.

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flaccid paralysis is not the same as lethality, and the lethality rate is 2-5% (in children) and 15-30% in adolescents as stated.

Everyone that is concerned about getting Covid should get the ā€˜vaccine’ - then they will be protected. Telling others that they have to get vaccinated so you can feel safe isn’t right. You can ask and make sound arguments to convince, but you cannot force.

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Oh look, closet racist POSs in this thread equating being black to the choice of being a public health threat. Same thing! Totally!

a couple things:

  1. Not a racist, like not even a little, so please don’t continue calling me one.
  2. You read ā€œblackā€ and stopped reading, thus missing the point.
  3. It’s not a public threat to be unvaccinated if you are in the presence of the ā€˜vaccinated’. If you were a threat, then clearly the ā€˜vaccine’ doesnt work all that well (studies show that it works pretty damn well)
  4. If you call me a racist again, im going to report it as slander. I’m not fucking racist and haven’t said anything racist either.
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