There are a ton of stories like this with medical professionals refusing to get the vaccine. Not sure what to make of it.
Like many professions; people in Medicine are a reflection of American Society as a whole.
No more/no less.
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This is an accurate statement.
Source: Am medical professional
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If medical professionals are just like the rest of the country, why is there so much appeal to authority using them when discussing Covid?
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We knew the Rona would create medical care shortages.
I think an obvious difference is medical professionals rejecting medical science tends to stand out more than the mechanic who does. I think a lot of it is they should know better. Iâm not really sure to be honest though. I think it just makes sense to expect them to be more likely to follow science and medical consensus considering thatâs what they do every day. At least in theory.
And they are already mandated to do a bunch of stuff as safety and preventative measures just by being in the hospital. Also a lot of these nurses donât have much education. A CNA is like a 6 week course. I think an LPN is around a year? Iâm sure it matters where you go. Either way a LOT of nurses donât have much more education than the average person who completed high school.
It makes sense that they would be more susceptible to pseudoscience and conspiracy theories.
RNs have a BS degree, and there are a LOT of them who are refusing the vaccine. And there are a lot of doctors prescribing ivermectin.
Just to be clear if you needed heart surgery would you do it? I mean they couldnât promise you you wouldnât have a heart attack and they couldnât promise you you wouldnât die from a heart related event.
So my guess is you would reject all preventative treatments as pretty much none of them have a 100% success rate? Because thatâs the dumbass logic youâre using here.
Best as I ever know no one expected the vaccines to cause Covid to immediately disappear or to have no one ever die from it. That seems like a stupid ass bar to expect. Less likely to require hospitalization and less likely to die by significant amounts seems like nothing to sneeze at. But Iâm also realizing youâre insanely ingrained in this anti vaxx shit and no amount of links, logic, reasoning will have any effect on you. And you have the balls to say others are following a narrative.
Do you have sources? A lot is a pretty subjective word.
My guess (and weâll probably have no way of knowing) is the average CNA or LPN is more likely to not take it than the other more educated ones.
FWIW in an area very familiar to me as I grew up not too far the county health nurse was spreading misinformation and lies about the vaccine even before it came out. These were demonstrably untrue statements coming from her that people tended to believe because of her title.
Also weâve always had doctors pushing snake oil and pseudoscience. Thatâs nothing new either. We could link all day long to doctors pushing odd shit long before the pandemic hit.
1 in 8 according to this (back in August)
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2021-08-28/when-nurses-refuse-to-get-vaccinated
But those doctors almost always have a financial interest in pushing the dumb shit. What do they get out of ivermectin? Like I said, I know about 10 people who have been prescribed ivermectin and all recovered in about 3 days. As best I can tell, at least 6 of them werenât vaccinated.
(I am vaccinated, for the record as are my wife and sons who are old enough).
As Iâve said I hope Ivermectin works. I donât see any evidence so far that points to vaccination not being a net positive. Other than ludicrous arguments like âYOU CAN STILL DIE IT DOESNâT WORK!!!â
At this stage of our knowledge regarding ivermectinâs effectiveness treating covid, anecdotes are noncontributory and should not be countenanced.
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Given the choice would anyone get the J&J vaccine over the Pfizer?
It has at least one advantage, that being itâs single-dose. So I could see someone in a high-risk situation choosing it.
Why are telemedicine doctors and prescription mills jumping onto the Ivermectin bandwagon? Because a snake oil that supposedly has to be consumed
I took me 10 mins to find that the kind people at frontline doctors through the affiliate links can hook you up with a telemedicine doctor for a measly one hundred and I suppose youâll get your âprescriptionâ for river blindness in a mater of minutes.
Thatâs around five times the (inflated) retail price of a Pfizer vaccine, only for a remote âappointmentâ. So whoâs profiting of whom?
Itâs a giant fleecing scheme and the targets are the âMSM LIESâ people.
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Just to be clear I reversed what loopar said. It can be said for both ivermektin and the vaccines was my point in doing so.
I am not anti vax. I made my parents get vaxed. Both are high risk due to being over weight. Old man got Jansen due to being extremely obesse on recomendation on doctors in Spain, mom got two Phizer shots.
I am trying to find a solution for my grandma. However her doctor does not recommend still anything for her. We may use Jansen or Astra Zeneka on her.
Me and my fionce are still waiting, but chances are we will not get vaxed. She does not need it. She is skiny and very healthy, goes to gym eats right. I am a bit over weight and I smoke. But I am waiting on progress on non MRA vaccines. Meanwhile i am stacked on zinc, vegies, fish, ivermektin. I had Covid already. And I got it very light. Temperaure for 2-3 days at around 37-38 degree by Celsium was the worsr I got. I took Aspirin, magnesium, zink, vit D and ate lots of vegies and lemon and garlic and onion. My fiancee was looking after me and did not get it from me. We even had sex while I was sick.
So after the anecdote. I am not anti vax. I am considering that vax are not the end game. We need threatment. I already explained why.
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Can you comment on the issue of âimmune escape/evasionâ. @sparkyo brought this up the day before and @ins just did yesterday so I went and read up on it on it out of curiosity. What I understood is that this is dependant on the body not being able to put up a robust immune response against an infection, not getting an infection itself.
Also, the most frequently used tests only pick up the presence of viral fragments and arenât indicative of oneâs immune response. Furthermore, the presence of viral fragments does not mean they are active. The severity of cases would be a more important indicator.
At least this what I understood.
Says this.
And this.
And this.
Sounds anti-vax. Probably a superspreader event.
She definitely needs it. To protect the vaccinated. And herself. People often go from healthy one day to deathly ill the next, when they get COVID 2.1.4.
She was probably an asymptomatic super spreader following your reckless sexual escapades. Did you look at your local obituaries in the weeks following? Notice anybody dying? Chances are, they died from COVID spread by you and your fiancee.
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We have very conflicting views but this seriously cracked me up.
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