I have about 10 friends from junior high who still live out in small West Texas towns who have been treated with Ivermektin (human grade). They’ve all recovered in about 3 days. Could be a coincidence, but there seems to be something there.
The plural of anecdote is anecdotes, not data.
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Like @loppar said, you don’t really have to take anyone’s word for it. You can always go read the research paper yourself and come to your own conclusion. It only costs like 9 bucks.
I’ve not read it, which is why I’m not even commenting on it. I have, however, briefly come across some excerpts indicating plagiarism and my bullshit detector is pretty high since I provide services for research in other industries/markets so I don’t think it’s worth my time nor money to purchase and read it.
Vaccines are not politicized. Nothing is political about a shot in the arm. Have you read the science behind them? From reading you’ve made the whole thing political like many on the right have (not to say the left is innocent). “Masks are a way to control you, the vaccine has microchips, media is hiding Ivermectin, etc.”
Covid doesn’t give a fuck about politics and neither does the vaccine. The debate around Covid and what to do got insanely politicized yes. But unless you’re out and out rejecting massive amounts of research with conspiracy theories not much is truly political about the vaccines. I mean it’s not like they work any differently whether you voted for Biden or Trump.
And if you do that don’t you think the polio vaccine was politicized? I mean they basically gave it to a million children as a test. You don’t think that wasn’t met with backlash? Do you think the polio vaccine was a net negative?
Who gives a fuck if you need three shots spread out over time? Jesus how busy are you? Ain’t got time to protect myself a few months by taking a shot and waiting 15 minutes. I hope you don’t work in construction or drive a semi where they will ask you to wear a hard hat or seatbelt every single day. You’ve got time to post conspiracy theories on a bodybuilding forum but good god a shot? Ain’t nobody got time for that.
I meant the actual shot. Best as I can tell when it goes in you your politics don’t seem to matter. Best as I can tell from the research they didn’t say “we did notice people who like Harris responded better.”
True. And strange it turned out to be Trumpers who rejected it in the end.
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Yes the reaction and politics of Covid has been embarrassing from both sides. But to say you’re not taking a vaccine because it’s politicized seems odd. The virus and the vaccine aren’t going to act on politics.
Best as I can tell when I got the shot the nurses didn’t say now listen if you voted for Trump this shit has no chance of working so let’s give you Ivermectin. At least they didn’t say that to me.
See, I am not talking about any of the conspiracies you hear around. I am tryingbto think and follow the science.
Here is why vaccines are useless according to me.
- they do not prevent from getting the virus, which means:
- you are not able to work to herd immunity to wipe it out
- you can still spread the virus. And will definitely do so if you are contacting people in closed doors
- they are basically a threatment for the sickness
- they create mutations
2)their defence against the first largely known mutation according to real reports is around 50%
- which means they are not effective against mutations
- that leads to extra shots needed and more requirments and more politics
- which leads to further stronger mutations, which may be deadlier or even more contegious
I believe this is why we do not have a HIV vaccine, due to mutations and creating vaccines wont be effective. But I do not know much on the HIV topic.
So we have 1 tested way according to me to deal with Covid. And it is the way we are dealing with the flu. We need better threatment to get there and constantly updating vaccines. And to stop making it political issue.
Why do you think the vaccines cause more mutations than people who are unvaccinated? I don’t follow that at all.
I dont say that. I say that the current Covid vaccines cause mutations. At what rate, I have no clue. But if they are not protecting you from getting the virus, they will create mutations. That is how imune escape works.
As far as I am aware there is no HIV vaccine exactly for this reason. The virus mutates so fast, that there is literally no point in making vaccines. But do not quote me on that. I am unsure about HIV.
wow wow wow…
Hold for a second. The same can be said reversly.
We have Ivermectin that is a well known medicine for more than 40 years. Has been administred bilions of times. Is known to work against parasites and other viruses such as yellow fever. Has won nobel prize for medicine just 6 years ago.
On the other hand we have snake oil vaccines which got a pretty quick testing and so far fo not work as promised. You can still get the virus, you can still spread it, you can still get sick and die. There are also different side effects and people that have actually died. Lets find out how many people have died from Ivermekin for 40 years…
So it is pretty easy to write narratives as you see
Did they? Remember operation Wrap Speed by Trump? Who they got approved from? Anthony Faucci? That guy that lied he has financed the research in China, despite the law that prohibits him doing so? That guy that we may a pandemic because of him? So are we buying his snake oil?
I can go on. But I am asking what happens if Oxford and Astra Zeneca get a positive research on ivermektin? As far as I just learned there is a company working on a drug that simulates ivermektins responce to viruses as well.
See how pointless your argument becomes?
yawn… They certainly work. You might still acquire the virus, but you won’t get as sick and the risk of death substantially drops. I’d personally prefer to take AZ/J&J over mRNA vaccines though, and that’s exactly what I did
Also… Ivermectin mediated encephalopathy has killed people, and it is possible to overdose on ivermectin… quite a few people have now as they’re taken shit loads of it when they test positive for covid-19
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Said who? They slow DOWN the rate by which the virus mutates by slowing down communicable transmission.
There is the argument to be made about vaccine resistant strains developing… still, the mutation rate will be slower relative to “letting it rip” without vaccines
This has become endemic, it’ll be like the flu. Each year a modified vaccine will probably be brought to market targeting specific strains, at the same time no matter the strain chances are the vaccine will dramatically reduce the chance of illness/death
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This.
(And I would like @unreal24278 thoughts on this…)
During this whole “debate”…too often “does not prevent transmission” (it is a virus that enters via the nasal-pharyngeal mucosa) is translated into “it doesn’t work”.
This is a terrible, TERRIBLE message.
These vaccines have been proven to ATTENUATE; and is many cases PREVENT; severe disease and death.
I don’t get why there’s such a divide.
Vaccines work. Ivermektin probably works to an extent too. We better hope someone finds the covid equivalent of tamaflu
Also, we probably will need yearly boosters, JUST LIKE THE FLU
As for blood clotting issues. It’s most likely the result of accidental intravenous injection. This is seen in other adenovirus vector vaccines. ITs NOT NEW!!!
mRNA is new though so I kind of understand hesitation about that
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What were your reasons? Was actually going to ask everyone as I have not yet decided.
*To everyone, did any of you get or plan to get the non MRNA vaccine? Why? Have not decided which one.
On the plus side, to my knowledge not a single one of those people died while suffering the ravages of ocular onchocerciasis, aka African river blindness. So there’s that.
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I wanted to share these thoughts I found on-line from a Physician :
“What I am most tired of is being a Medical Professional and constantly being bombarded by those who constantly think they know more…”
“I know for a FACT that I don’t know everything…”
“My opinion today is COMPLETELY different than it was in March of 2020. Know why? BECAUSE SCIENCE CHANGES. We are LTTERALLY watching the Scientific Process unfold in REAL TIME…and people can’t handle it…
“We are spoiled to just “know” things…”
“We DON’T “know it all”…but damnit, your Medical Professionals are TRYING to give you the best information we can, as we get it. Even when it changes, we didn’t “lie” to you…the SCIENCE changed…”
“I’m just tired…”
Make of it what you wish.
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Joe Rogan is an evil dwarf.
First I thought he was just regular dumb, but after another Weinstein JRE…