Coronavirus - What Happened?

Can we get Fauchi arrested now? He is a criminal against humanity.

He’s not mentioned in the article. I’ve got no skin in the game, so please tell me how he’s responsible? I’m not trolling just can’t keep up with it all.

Efficacy of ivermectin treatment in reducing mortality, in secondary outcomes, and in chemoprophylaxis, among people with, or at high risk of, COVID-19 infection.

Meta-analysis of 15 trials found that ivermectin Found positive results.

Well he was funding responsible for the funding. The old story of Fauchi funding gain of function research and then covering his ass, which Raund Paul acused him off, came as true.

I will go further. Forget about the pandemic being his cause. I do not think he is king pin or a criminal mind. He is just a little man hungry for power and perhaps extremelly corrupt. Although his power lust is one of the reasons we have a pandemic now. If he did not fund the research we may never experienced what is happening now. But leta be generous and forgive him all the dead and sick people in the world.

Lets go further. How many people died, because he was spreading misinformation and was covering his ass from a position of power? I want him to answer about that. Could humanity be in a better position if Fauchi came up stright and said. We are perhaps responsible. Oopsie. But here is what we know and should do

Thanks for the answer, I reread the article and didn’t see gain of function mentioned. Tbh I’m not sure what it is so I’ll go and read up on it.

I’m not in USA so I’m not fully across their political arguments on covid. I’ve got the headlines.

And the studies that the meta analysis was based upon ended up being fraudulent.

What is more profitable for the Big Pharma? One jab each year at best that they retailed for 25 bucks (that’s the price for Israel who were massively overpaying the vaccine, AZ is sold at cost for example) or a dirt cheap parasite drug that they can sell with a 2000% markup and has to be taken constantly? No to mention money funneled to prescription mills for prescribing Ivermectin.

If you refuse to be a sheep and take IV you’re making more money for the pharma companies.

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Ivermectin proponents are in the pocket of big pharma. or is it big Farm-a?

I am definitely the first to make that pun. For sure.

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Animal Farm? Totalitarian propaganda?

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I am somewhat inclined to post this in the Stupid thread, but I will actually do it here.

Anti-COVID vaccine professor rips Western University vaccination policy | London Free Press (lfpress.com)

She is a University Prof and can’t get with the idea to TAKE THE FUCKING VACCINE.

I think more research is needed. Who wouldn’t want another effective treatment for covid? India banned it for treatment a couple of months back but even if their studies that showed it wasn’t effective were bullshit, it was more likely for political reasons with regards to China gouging them on raw material prices than vaccine companies fucking around.

ODing could be a potential problem. Organ damage (when taken orally) from excessive doses happen in animals. And I did see an excerpt from one of Rogan’s podcasts because it appeared on my YouTube feed. I know he was joking when he was asking if he could sue the CNN for claiming he was taking a ā€œhorse dewormerā€ but it’s actually really used for this lol. Fuck, I have a bottle of it at home for mites on my cat but it turned out the problem wasn’t mites.

While I’m still on the fence pending further data on it’s efficacy for treatment, there is simply nothing compelling of any kind that I’ve seen when it comes to prophylaxis. You give me ample proof with the majority of the medical community agreeing and I’m gonna go buy a bottle for all my older family members.

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Why are people stopping at ivermectin, though. There are several derivatives from the same class of drugs than can be researched and some are a lot safer than ivermectin even with high doses.

Hell, even look up stuff like permethrin and fipronil. (This is a joke if anyone thinks I’m being serious. Please don’t. They can potentially kill you if you take them orally.)

But, the head of the Tokyo Medical Association has recommended it and has Japan not run their own studies? Seems odd that Japan who seems conservative with treatments promotes its use.

Are those headlines not causing harm though? They have ivermectin labeled for human use. The media going out of their way to constantly state its animal uses as well as the stupid jokes are not helping anyone. What about all the false stories run about hospitalizations due to ivermectin (cnn, msn, rolling stone) none retracted or edited once proven false.

If anything it feeds the idea that the FDA and Pharma are behind it since they were only granted EUA because there were no available treatments.

Soooo… only as a suppository then?

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These are stupid headlines lol. I have my own personal problems with the media so I’m definitely not taking their side. They probably got confused with ā€œhuman gradeā€ and ā€œanimal gradeā€ standards of manufacturing although certain drugs like tren are only approved for animals so there’s no such thing as ā€œhuman gradeā€.

As The Daily Wire reported Tuesday, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist at Rutgers University and an expert who spoke to The Intercept, elaborated on the findings on Twitter.

ā€œThe materials show that the 2014 and 2019 NIH grants to EcoHealth with subcontracts to WIV funded gain-of-function research as defined in federal policies in effect in 2014-2017 and potential pandemic pathogen enhancement as defined in federal policies in effect in 2017-present,ā€ Ebert noted. ā€œThe materials confirm the grants supported the construction — in Wuhan — of novel chimeric SARS-related coronaviruses that combined a spike gene from one coronavirus with genetic information from another coronavirus, and confirmed the resulting viruses could infect human cells.ā€

I love these fact checkers. They try hard to say that it was not recommended. Bu indeed it was recommended. However they name it false or misleading … Faaaaact checkers.

Hey it was recommended but not how you think i was. This is how it was recommended. Was ivermektin recommended? False!

ā€œNeither the Tokyo Medical Association nor Ozaki are affiliated with the Japanese government, and members of the organization can only provide recommendations.ā€

That was my reply to what @sparkyo posted.

The official guidelines for doctors from the Japanese Ministry of Health states that ā€œcompared to standard treatment and placebo, ivermectin did not reduce deaths, shorten the hospitalization period and improve time of virus disappearance.ā€

^THIS is Japan’s official stance at the moment.

Ivermectin is a very effective antiparasitic, high dosages however can prove to be quite dangerous; can induce lethal CNS depression.

Fact checked. Members of Tokyo Medical assosiation recommend the use of Ivermektin. Japan as a government structure and their health minister do not.

Still does not make the claim that in Japan ivermektin is recommended at least by their Tokyo Medical Assosiation a fake.

Obviously governments are always slow. And as Joe Rogan commented, it is perhaps due to legislation. FDA can use not approved vaccines only in case there is non official threatment. I guess the procedure is the same in most countries. And factor number 2 vaccine hessitancy. Although before I was pro vaccines, i am now very hesitant learning more and more about them. So there is that.