It’s less than 1/1000. Not everyone is at risk, why should the same restrictions apply to everybody? Or in the case of some parts of the US, no restrictions for anybody.
I don’t know which article you are referring to or what you claim to have said.
You have missed the forest for the trees.
Ten. That’s the number of otherwise healthy people who have died from COVID-19 in Alberta since the beginning of the pandemic.
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The province’s comorbidity fact sheet is updated weekly, with the last one released on Nov. 11. The number of COVID-19 deaths recorded at that time was 369 individuals.
Out of that number, 75.3% of Albertans who died had done so while suffering “with 3 or more conditions” in addition to COVID-19.
The next highest figure were those suffering from two comorbidities in addition to COVID-19, which made up 16.5% of cases. Those with one extra condition made up 5.4%. And those without a comorbidity were 2.7% of the tally, or 10 persons.
As the Alberta government’s website explains: “The following comorbidities are included in respective analyses: Diabetes, Hypertension, COPD, Cancer, Dementia, Stroke, Liver cirrhosis, Cardiovascular diseases (including IHD and Congestive heart failure), Chronic kidney disease, and Immuno-deficiency.”
Note that old age is not listed as a comorbidity. So if any of the 282 Albertans who died of COVID-19 who are over 80 years old did not have a comorbidity they would be included in this tally of 10 deaths.
And while the government doesn’t offer categories for those who have died in their 90s and 100s beyond lumping them in the 80+ category, previous announcements from chief medical officer Deena Hinshaw have confirmed that there have been deaths in this cohort.
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The flip-side of this is that it also tells us how very few people who are not suffering from a previous medical condition have actually died of COVID-19.
“If you’re under 60 years of age and don’t have a medical condition your chances of having a serious outcome is way less than 1%,” Dr. Robert Sargeant, who attends to COVID-19 patients at St. Michael’s Hospital in Toronto, told me in a recent interview.
“This continues to be a deadly virus for elderly people with medical conditions who live in nursing homes,” Sargeant added.
Sargeant says this all suggests — and other doctors I’ve interviewed in recent weeks say likewise — that we need to increase our efforts in protecting the most vulnerable while easing up on restrictions we’ve placed on low-risk groups, particularly children.
80% of deaths in nursing homes (LTC), Ontario LTC minister says COVID comparable to 2017-2018 flu season. Is she a conspiracy theorist? And why wasn’t the whole world shut down three years ago?
What does this have to do with what I’ve been saying?
You’re really going to select one spot and try to make it fit for everywhere?
Again what do you think I’m advocating for recently and why are you inventing positions of mine?
You’re picking a fight against arguments I haven’t been making.
All I said recently is that cases and deaths go together in all the areas with plenty of data. You haven’t shown evidence to the contrary.
Now you want to argue about nursing homes in Ontario, why didn’t we lockdown three years ago, or whatever else.
I have no idea why you seem desperate to have an argument against positions I’m not taking. We get it you don’t think the thing is a big deal.
Hey dumdum. The minister is saying that WITH the whole world shutdown the virus is still comparable to one of the worst flu seasons in recent memory.
And you want to open everything back up and see what happens? JFC. I come on here and EVERY GODDAMN TIME am reminded of that carlin quote.
I see my reply got deleted.
I just thought I should bring it to your attention.
I have but you seem to be unable to comprehend.
Hey asshole, the vast majority of deaths were in nursing homes, despite only accounting for a fraction of “cases”, and the shutdowns did next to nothing to prevent that.
No, I want effective measures to protect those at risk and I don’t want arbitrary restrictions of our rights and the collapse of the economy when it doesn’t need to be that way.
Yes, that is what happens when you use homophobic slurs to attack someone on this forum.
No you’ve posted articles that agree with me and tried changing the conversation to something else. I can see why Aragorn has largely given up on you and I will follow suit.
Just ordered some more home gym stuff. Decent selection now as long as you have the key items (good bar, plates). My state is shutting gyms down for a month (at least to start). It is a bummer, as the gym is a major source of enjoyment for me. I do think it is one of the more risky situations as most people don’t wear a mask, and don’t distance. I try my best to adhere to the mask. If there are only a handful of people, I just distance (it is a small hardcore gym, so there are times when it is just 3-4 people total).
It is really a bummer, but hopefully we get a vaccine soon.
Current news on the vaccine front is good, so you may get your wish.
I can’t find plates to save my life. But, the benefit to having ones own gym is not having to wear a mask, so a relative plate shortage is ok. I still have enough for sub max training
You could consider a couple sets of bands. You can add resistance that way, and they are cheap compared to plates (also easy to get free shipping on bands). I bought two pairs of bands of different sizes (about $50 from EliteFTS, for monster minis and lights, the names are deceiving, as I can probably get over 200 lbs of load out of them). I can use them together or individually for different loads. I can also double them up or do different tricks in anchoring them to achieve all sorts of different loads with them.
I’ve found a bit of time with bands seems to pay off for strength.
Ok there tough guy, go hide behind your rainbow flag.
I’m not really even sure what you are arguing about aside from the relevance of so-called “cases”. What you and Aragorn have in common is that you disagree with me and don’t want everything shut down indefinitely but you also have no alternative solution. Even the mainstream media has started to agree with me:
Sour grapes, bitch. It was your decision to get back in this thread.
Isn’t the risk of severe injury or death more of an immediate concern that COVID, especially for an equipped lifter?
I just make sure to set the safety pins right so I don’t die.
Careful, your true colors are showing.
Lmao. You tell him. Figure out a way to get that bigotry across without a ban.
Being in the thread isn’t a mistake. Trying to reason with you is the mistake I have made over and over again. You don’t respond well to logic and reason and now you’re crying about it and throwing out some homophobia as well. Stay classy.
Thank you. I’ve actually got several entire sets of bands up to the strongs. They work well, but tons of band tension beats me up.
I lift raw with wraps. Right now is more of a volume phase anyways, so I don’t sorry too much. They have necklaces with a emergency button you could wear if you were worried.
I mean, we all kinda knew that wasn’t gonna be a good idea, right?
While Chris sits in time out, let’s bring the thread back on topic. Once again.
Australia has signed on for 5 million dosages of the pfizer vaccine!
Enough for 1/4th of the populace to get vaccinated… once… Dammit
I’m pretty happy with the news on the vaccine front. Multiple highly effective vaccines cooking in the stove and what seems to be evidence of T-cell memory after antibodies drop off.
And it seems that some t cells to the common cold may also recognize covid (at least certain strains) and help in the immune response. See below.
The authors suggest that this may be one of the factors that explains why some people seem to have almost no symptoms.
Interesting stuff and good to have some good news on an over 2K dead day in the US.