I don’t think it will take that long, although I question recent reports of “normalcy” by the second or third quarter of 2021. Fauci, and others, are still saying the masks, social distancing, and other measures will need to continue a bit beyond the vaccination in order to evaluate it’s long-term effectiveness. In essence, the face diapers will continue for those who choose to wear them.
How about the ones saying the deceased was turning his life around every time someone that obviously wasn’t doing that gets killed in a way that makes you think he should’ve turned his life around a few hours sooner?
Let’s hope so!
They’re not going away, as long as this country remains one.
That’s a really hard question, and one with no obvious answers unfortunately. I don’t think it will take years if the vaccine works as expected but I think part of that is “playing ball” so to speak while vaccines are distributed. With 300+ million doses to put out it’s not going to happen overnight, even if everyone wanted to get one.
I can respect that certainly. I think my dad feels the same way, but I’m also not ready to lose him by chance either.
That’s kinda tricky. For a lot more of humanity than not, there were small pockets of civilization separated by long arduous miles. Now, there isn’t anywhere on earth that one can’t get to and from in a matter of days.
Once that was reduced to weeks-bubonic plagues. Wiped out like 25 and 30% of Europe.
That’s pretty serious. I don’t know if that constitutes a bottleneck, but that’s a whole lot of dead.
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Not much. Europe was repeatedly struck by plague epidemics which changed the course of human history. And that’s without taking into account endemic diseases such as malaria and yellow fever.
In addition, the ethnic makeup of the US of A would be much, much different had various diseases not killed up to 90% natives.
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Trudeau is Haitian?
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To all those who wonder why 'da dumb folk in the US don’t listen to 'da science:
From another thread, for a humorous reference to the rules for ordinary folk:
Come on. The man doesn’t even have the balls to introduce mandatory isolation in dedicated facilities.
I suppose we will have to agree to disagree. That is not what I see at all.
Or actually treating people instead of leaving them to die in nursing homes. At least here they didn’t want to treat older people or those with a bunch of other issues because they were worried that it would lead to hospitals being overwhelmed. Instead it was nursing homes that were overwhelmed and hospitals sent staff to help. But also the government it saying that because it’s now mostly younger people getting infected there are less deaths, which brings us back to my main point that it’s only dangerous to a small proportion of people and should be managed differently.
I didn’t write the article, and I’m not sure which article you refer to since it isn’t in the post your replied to.
A question for you, how would you go about managing the situation?
How do you figure? That’s Fidel Castro with him in the picture.
Politicians are a bunch of hypocrites. Trudeau said not to visit your family at Easter, he went to visit his family. Ontario premier Doug Ford said not to go to your cottage, he went to his cottage. It’s one set of rules for us and another for them, do as I say not as I do.
Because people will refuse. Stuff like that requires to cooperation of the police and military and a lot of them would refuse to go along with it. There are cops who have spoken out against the arbitrary restriction of our rights, one in Laval was even fired. Tyranny requires public support or you can end up like Mussolini.
Just to show you that mine is not some sort of fringe opinion:
“The COVID suppression view is becoming a marginalized view,” he says, observing that fewer of his colleagues are adopting this perspective. “Once you have an endemic level of COVID, the economic fallout and carnage [of much larger lockdowns] would be so great that it’s not worth it.”
Dr. Robert Sargeant, who attends to patients at a COVID-19 ward at St. Michael’s hospital in downtown Toronto, is also frustrated at the current response.
“This idea that we can drive this down to zero is ridiculous,” says Sargeant. “The people who are advocating for this are totally off base in my mind.”
“It’s very hard to try to have this balanced conversation,” says Dr. Martha Fulford, an associate professor at McMaster University and an infectious diseases physician at Hamilton Health Sciences. “This obsessive reporting with COVID numbers is bizarre… nobody should be giving COVID numbers without also giving economic numbers and suicides.”
Also this:
At the time of this writing, 276 people have died of COVID-19 in B.C. in 2020. As of September, 1,202 people in B.C. have died of overdoses. All of these deaths are tragic. What is equally tragic is that there seems to be no hope on the horizon for those struggling with mental health and substance use.
No wonder “All Lives Matter” is controversial
Everyone on here sees it but you. Not sure how to make it more clear.
This is all well and good but doesn’t have anything to do with that we’ve been discussing. Also not sure I’d hang my hat on a small proportion of people. The US is right about 253,000 deaths in 9 months. That’s not a small number at all. Look at how many people don’t die is all well and good to say. You know as long as you’re not one of those people. I’m glad a lot of people don’t die. But we don’t know what long term health effects are and 253,000 dead in this amount of time is startling. With that number it’s a very weird thing to say “well yeah but look how many didn’t die!”
Two different articles you’ve linked that back up what I said.
Not sure. We’ve discussed that a million times. What I have been discussing is that you’ve said multiple times cases don’t matter and that’s demonstrably untrue.
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You’re trying to argue a bunch of different things. I wasn’t discussing anything in the last few posts but your insistence that the amount of cases a place has doesn’t matter.
The rest is stuff that has been discussed over and over again. Which is fine but I have been talking clearly about a specific thing you said multiple times lately.
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Keep locking down. Keep kicking the can down the road. What could go wrong? Idiots.
I listen to the science, and believe all victims. Some guy that took a science class tells me The Rona is like brain cancer combined with AIDS? I believe him. Some woman says she was raped 35 years ago by a guy that has just gained national recognition and is opposed by Democrats/media? I believe her. It’s super easy to be this way. The best part? My vote counts as much(and maybe more! Hehe) as the votes of those that don’t.
Edit: has anyone thought about what we are going to do when COVID-2020 hits?
doesn’t do simple things to help prevent spread
Complains about reactions taken about the spread
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Fidel is dead.
Bruh, we can do anything we put our minds to! We #15daystoslowtheapread’ed the fuck out of this thing. Even managed to have less people than normal in hospitals. There’s no reason to think we can’t eliminate all illness, asymptomatic cases, and false positives.
Economic numbers? Look, bitch: Lives are more important than some rich dude getting his eighth vacation home. Fuck you, hag. Suicides? They’re obviously going to go up with already-unstable people having the added stress of having to worry about contracting the equivalent of anal and penile cancers combined with Ebola. Eliminate COVID and we’ll see the suicide numbers plummet.
He still voted for Biden 75 million times.