Major increase is going to be hard to see with low cases. As cases go up deaths have typically followed. If you have limited cases you are unlikely to see strong numbers. But we have no reason to believe big increases in cases don’t see increases in cases 3-4 weeks down the line. As far as I know this has been the case everywhere.
Contact with an exposed person.
Outstanding movie, in almost every way. It’s fascinating to hear that it resonates so much with Chinese people as well, and I’d never thought about the parallels.
Agree on both counts. There is nothing as inexorable as a virus spreading. I think we could have slowed it down much more and a bunch of people would still be alive while we get the vaccine out, but there is very little likelihood of completely stifling it in a country this size.
Our only chance to try was early on though, numbers or no numbers (and yes, agree on the travel numbers being alarming from article).
No. And we didn’t have testing at entry points either. Both of which I have been screaming for since this started.
We may have them NOW (haven’t been up to date on this side of things) but that’s 230,000 lives and 9 months too fucking late.
Disgraceful.
Absolutely. Although it must be said that international travel was much, MUCH slower and less volume than today. So that helped a lot.
Troll.
Flu season hasn’t even started in earnest yet.
Besides which, a low flu incidence and a high covid incidence would be evidence that covid is a)more infectious and b) more deadly than the flu.
Which would totally ruin your conspiracy theory.
Flu typically runs October to May and peaks in December through February. We’ll see if your statement comes to fruition.
We must be looking at different data then as I see your death averages since the beginning of that spike trending up. Which would mean that a rise in cases will be followed by a rise in deaths. Again with low numbers that may not be as evident or even true. But we would expect that as your numbers rise deaths will also rise.
Is there anywhere with significant case numbers where this hasn’t been true? Again you can’t look at it as “start of wave day one should equal more deaths day one.” Even close to that wouldn’t be the way to look at it. You’ll see the start of a wave early obviously but that’s also the point where the increases will be lowest.
If a country has had large case increases and deaths didn’t rise as well over time then I’m not aware of it.
How will they know they had contact with someone who tested positive? Not everyone will. But we have a lot of people already who are quarantined who do know.
Not certainly we have a lot of people not following that advice but that doesn’t mean everyone isn’t either. You might be a bit confused on what people are doing in the US since we have so many cases. But again not everyone is doing the same thing.
It’s amazing how you cram so much ignorance into each post you make.
Why would someone get tested 4 times? In one day.
Also, surely the measures in place and the behavioural changes would make it axiomatic that we’d see a reduction in flu?
This talking point vexes me.
(Forgive the spelling errors. My eyes are fucked up again today and I’ve run out of edits for an hr lol)
Not the ones in China, though, because of the Cultural Revolution.
It was kind a “street law” that gang members and people affliliated to them(most living in my areas were because we hated the cops so much and relied on them to settle disputes and protect us from rival gangs) passed down since they abided by rules directly descended from the various anti-Qing government revolutionaries.
If you have watched John Woo movies like The Killer and Bullet in the Head, you’ll also see these parallels when it comes to brotherhood and duty to one another despite being outlaws(kinda like cowboys?).
LMAO I wish this guy becomes a celeb after leaving politics. I’d totally watch his stuff.
Exactly. If people are following measures flu should be reduced. It is approximately 1/2 as infectious as covid (estimates vary as to R0 values).
That’s what I thought. Honestly, it’s all so tiresome.
Do the right thing and we reopen faster! Mind you, Newsom and Lori Lightfoot acting like maggots does make the case harder.
It cannot be one rule for thee, but not for me.
Right. Gotcha.
Both good movies and yes, there is a certain cowboy style ethos there. John Wayne being my favorite Hollywood cowboy.
People like them give ammunition to the trolls and conspiracy types due to exactly the double standards you are referring to.
Tiresome doesn’t begin to describe my eye rolling when these talking points come up lol. There are a lot more stupid people… Or maybe willfully ignorant, not stupid… Than I wanted to believe there were.
Not that I didn’t know mind you. But I had managed to block that part out for a long time 
What frustrates me is that Ireland was within a hair’s breadth of being COVID zero, but opted
to limp on until a vaccine.
Maddening. 6 months of no gym and no pub, all because we had to keep the airports open apparently.
there is a ghastly number of Secret Service Officers in the US who either have Covid-19 or have to isolate:
I wonder.
Isn’t this redundant? I assumed most gyms were actually inside pubs there? Bring the product to where the people are!
You joke, but my old London gym was connected to a pub. Lord how I miss those halcyon days.
Hot damn what an idea! If beer was good enough post workout for Arnold, it’s good enough for me.
I question this when looking at rolling cases in EU.
The numbers went nearly to zero on extended lock down. Then 4-6 weeks ago, upon “reopening” they skyrocketed. Sorry cant link chart