Meanwhile, in Ireland.
Edit: Ming Flanagan is a nutter, for the record. The man once ate a magic mushroom off a cow pat because it wasn’t specifically prescribed by the legislation, which prohibited ‘picking’ said shroom.
Ming? As in Flash Gordon?
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And with a lot of things to consider you get conflicting opinions. I’m by no means saying things have always been handled perfect or the only way. But at least in the US most of the statewide shutdowns weren’t that long (realizing that may be subjective.). I’m not sure why a place would decide to shut down and then a week later jump up and say oh shit that was all wrong look at this one piece of evidence. In a time where evidence is coming in at rapid stages and much of it is conflicting.
I’m going to guess that not every health professional feels the same way as the ones in your article. I don’t know much about Canada’s leaders but my guess would be if every single infectious disease expert said we’re good they would follow? They may be more reasonable than ours.
I don’t typically make a habit of discussing things with people that don’t post here. And again it’s not like he doesn’t have plenty of people who apparently have already questioned him. I had to google as I’d never heard of him. But I won’t be debating someone who doesn’t post here. And again it’s not like we have consensus on this stuff man. If we had consensus I wouldn’t have much to say other than fixing demonstrably untrue things like what Bill Gates can do.
The opinions that have been expressed by Knut Wittkowski, discouraging social distancing in order to hasten the development of herd immunity to the novel coronavirus, do not represent the views of The Rockefeller University, its leadership, or its faculty.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/5156368002
Yes, that is his actual used name. One of Ireland’s sillier sons.
His real name is Luke.
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I think you’re onto something, not only would a basket help to maintain the tradition of the founding fathers but also it’s reusable so it will minimize carbon emissions.
Luke? As in Skywalker?
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After the new trilogy? I’d be inclined to say yes.
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Well… crap. Too late for that!
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He may have badly messed this up, but you have to hand it to a public servant who will issue such a mea culpa.
Based on publicly available information I’ve read, the guy seems a piece of shit.
Ignoring the modeling results, public lecturing other countries on Covid-19 strategy and stubbornly refusing to change course despite having been proven wrong (kudos to BoJo for having done that, BTW) are just some of the things that led me to this impression.
Now that his strategy ended up as failure, both in terms of deaths and economic damage he’s issuing a very tepid “apology”. I think the media appearances on the international conservative media circuit in March got to his head. Ironically, he’s the archetypal totalitarian leftist.
I may be subjective on this, but a relative of mine got infected with Covid-19 during a repatriation flight from Sweden - the Swedes repeatedly refused to test outgoing passengers (despite being offered compensation) claiming that their approach is somehow superior to lowly testing and tracing.
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I’ll defer to your experience on this. In my experience, it is rare to see such a high profile figure say that they screwed up. That story about your relative is shocking, and not testing at airports seems to be a common failure at the moment. A total own goal for any countries with high traffic international airports (cough Heathrow, Gatwick and Dublin cough)
Quite possible. It does somewhat annoy me that everyone was hailing the Swedish approach, especially when one sees the fantastic job the Greeks and surrounding countries have done.
They’ll be open in the middle of June, the UK, US and Ireland will be limping on in lockdown till August. Even though I have been, generally, supportive of the Irish government’s response, the failure at the airports really grates.
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Had a good chuckle at this one myself. I’m convinced that some of these experts have never encountered humans before.
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Everything is back to normal here for almost a month now. I’m literally typing this from a beach.
Actually, this is even worse - both the employer and the embassy tried to get testing done for a group of engineers returning from Swede. They were flatly refused by Swedish authorities on the grounds that Sweden has a different strategy for dealing with the virus and cannot abide with a “backward” approach that involves - oh the horror - testing people.
Indeed, @Legalsteel.
I especially like this statement:
“If we were to encounter the same disease again knowing exactly what we know about it today, I think we would settle on doing something in between what Sweden did and what the rest of the world has done,” Tegnell said. It would be “good to know exactly what to shut down to curb the spread of infection better”, he added.
Some of the harshest critics of the U.S. response (which has been far from perfect and depended far too much of some flawed models) often quote what Sweden did as “the model response”.
Like Tengell said; the post-mortem after all of this will most likely reveal that the “ideal” response was somewhere “in-between” the extremes of complete lock-downs and “It’s just the FLU, Bro!”
I will agree with you that he is a Class Act. I think many of our Health Officials need to strep-up and admit some things that were, and continue to be, done wrong.
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I’m extraordinarily jealous. I had a trip to the park to see some friends on Sunday, and that is the most I have been outside in months.
That is bonkers. I’m utterly floored by this.
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It’s the only way to explain their complete lack of social understanding.
If you’re close enough to someone to have sex with with them, you’ve long since accepted the idea of sharing their germs.
So, assuming the “models” and established “lethality” of COVID-19, there should be thousands of new cases and/or deaths from all the protests and riots, correct?
Then you definitely won’t like where I’m doing my band workout…
Yes, there will be. Unfortunately everyone is too PC to mention this, lest they be accused of racism.
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At this point we don’t know.
All viruses have an incubation period.