This has direct implications for a variety of factors related to both covid-19 and the statistics. Also will post in the other thread for any scientific/medical questions. Please keep general comments in this thread.
First, this can affect both treatment options (e.g. chloroquine can have potential for cardiac side effects even though it’s been used widely for 60+ years… speculation: perhaps this is one reason it didn’t show increased effectiveness in one of the trials?).
Second, obviously if you have to bring in more staff for heart complications it affects supply use and exposure of the staff.
Third, this may be an additional source of uncertainty for mortality statistics and especially those related to covid-19–were patient deaths diagnosed as heart failure actually due to the virus?
Naturally, pretty much all those who die of pneumonia die because the heart stops–you can’t get enough oxygen. But the spectrum of heart failure or attack is much wider
We are seeing the confluence of clinical care and scientific literature review developing right before our eyes. This is a case where best practices will change very rapidly as our knowledge of the situation and illness changes rapidly.
It is very irritating to see people fragrantly violating quarantine protocal during this time of crisis.
Regarding Boris Johnson being hospitalised, perhaps the public will take better note of this situation when the first high profile figure dies from this illness. I’m not referring to Boris Johnson per se, but as a generalisation the public tends to take more notice when people they “know” are affected (directly and indirectly), otherwise it might be an “out of mind, out of sight” type scenario.
This is scary shit, in Aus the death rate is rapidly ticking up (lag in death rates following exponential growth as the avg time from onset/death is about 18 days)
It’s all an over reaction and panic over nothing until someone close to you or you get it. Pretty much that way with everything. We typically don’t really care about shit unless it’s right in front of our nose.
Stats from Ireland:
4014 detected cases.
838 cases came from 206 clusters
Median age of confirmed case: 48 years
1118 cases have been hospitalised
158 cases admitted to the ICU
1084 of our cases are healthcare workers.
62% community transmission.
People on my FB timeline are happy that Trump and Pence weren’t 6’ apart during the latest press conference because they could get COVID19 and die making Pelosi resident. Imagine cheering for the death of the President and Vice President because you don’t like them or you think they’re doing a poor job.
How soon we forget the 8-plus years prior to Trump, @usmccds423…
(And please don’t say it didn’t happen…)
In terms of the job Trump is doing?
The narrative is already being spun of how Trump…with the help of Pence and Kushner…“lead us through” one of the greatest Pandemics the World has known.
I don’t wish ill of Trump or whatever administration he has at the moment…but the spin is sickening…
Yeah that shit is bonkers to me. I can’t imagine someone actually wishing death on Trump/Obama/Clinton whoever. I think
Donald Trump is an awful President but no way do I want him to be sick from coronavirus.
I guess we can play Whutaboutism if you want. I don’t recall anyone I know or on here cheering for the death of Obama. I’m not talking about fringe weirdos on the internet, I’m talking about life-time government works that are also family members. Typically level-headed people. Although, they are life-time Dems, but I try not hold that against them.
On here I can’t remember. Probably joked about. In person I knew people who said it online but I live in a very conservative area. Fox News had a reporter who called for it. Also had a senator who prayed for his days to be short.
