I’m not really picking sides - I don’t think wishing for Trump’s death is normal or okay, but I absolutely saw people wishing for Obama’s, and I was only 8-16 years old. It wasn’t coming from the internet (didn’t have it) and it wasn’t coming from my parents (pretty uninterested in politics). It happened.
Right, but they all spin things in sickening ways. I’m not sure how you handle it if Mr. Narcisims is getting to you here.
That’s the first problem. It’s FB, not reality.
Imagine (you don’t need to) if that person was a frequent guest on Fox…Ted Nugent…
Trump, the cheerleader for the Birther Movement.
And who has wished death on Trump? No one.
Complain about tribalism and then get tribal.
Can you just stop responding to me? You don’t read what people write and you respond with complete non-sense.
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People obviously hate Obama. People hated (still hate) Bush. I just don’t recall people I actually know hoping they caught a disease and die so the Speaker could take over.
I don’t read what they write? Then how do I quote others?
Maybe the problem is that you don’t like being shown where you are wrong. And I’m not the only one to point that out to you.
And I will respond to you if I want to. This is an internet forum where we post things that others can see and we don’t get to pick and choose who responds and who doesn’t because of our feelings.
Highlighting words and clicking “quote” =/= reading.
Nope.
Certainly your prerogative. I was just politely trying to save you some time as I’ve been ignoring most of your posts anyway.
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Reading, it’s difficult.
Obvious jokes seem tough too.
We need to slow the spread but speed the shutdown. It is time to reopen the economy one way or another here in the States.
And how do we go about doing that?
Unless things have changed, everywhere is still expecting cases to peak in the next 1-3 weeks. Why should we be reopening the economy now?
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Testing as many people as possible. People will most likely develop antibodies.
If we continue with the economy shut down, the recovery will be extremely long and disastrous.
If a couple is out of work, and having to provide for three children, including a roof over their head and food, that is not sustainable.
If an individual started a small business and took out a second mortgage on their house for capital, it is not sustainable. The business will go under.
Slowly reopening the economy is necessary now.
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So, you want to reopen the economy and relax the social distancing/quarantine policies just before the pandemic is supposed to start peaking? How does that make ANY sense?
FWIW, I’m fully onboard relaxing the policies once your region starts seeing a decrease in cases to try and limit economic damage.
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Yep. No ones saying continue indefinitely. What if the economic impact of opening right now are worse long term than waiting a bit? If we can avoid another shutdown or a massive infection of working people who require hospitalization? We got in this mess by not reacting because we didn’t want to hurt the economy. Perhaps the economic pain would have been less had we been willing to do that. We shouldn’t rush to possibly make the same mistake again.
Why? Is something special about today? It wasn’t necessary yesterday? It isn’t ok to wait until tomorrow? What is it about this date specifically that says we need to do this? Does the economy have a better chance if we wait a bit and let this thing subside? Or will opening it immediately and risking this sticking around and infecting much more people be the smart play? Workers in the hospital probably aren’t that valuable to the company.
Just turn the sign from closed to open man. Easy peasy.
That’s why you aren’t a comedian.
My income has gone down to $200 a month. My mother had no income (stay at home mom). My dad’s job (mason) has basically laid him off, but the company’s owner hasn’t actually done it yet, so his employees can’t get unemployment. Including me, there’s 5 kids at home, and we live with one of my grandparents.
My parents have zero savings, and I don’t think my dad has health insurance (neither do I). We can’t afford it. The little kids and my mom have Medicaid and that will expire for everyone when my 5 year brother turns 6 in a few months.
Right now, my parents are literally surviving by borrowing money from my grandma, going to Salvation Army for free boxes of milk and bread, and racking up credit card debt. It’s rough, but we’ve been poor our entire lives and now that we see more and more people getting more and more sick around us, and our area already has less than stellar healthcare in place, we’re content with having 6 people trying to do schoolwork on 1 computer, eating the same boring food, not seeing our loved ones, and struggling same as usual if it means we have a slightly better chance of not getting sick.
If everyone was called back to work and school, way more people would get sick a lot faster and I don’t think we’re prepared for that. Nor do we want to have to deal with it.
I really do empathize for everyone struggling. I really do. Most of my loved ones have their entire lives, and it’s hard to watch. But for some people, struggling is second nature and I don’t think they’d pick getting sick and possibly dying if it means getting the economy back up and going asap.
EDIT: hate typing on my phone, haha
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Your father should talk to unemployment about that as it’s probably the owner’s way of pulling a scam. You can quit your job and collect unemployment. Many don’t know that. It depends on why you quit. Your father can always file for unemployment without being laid off or quitting and let unemployment work it out.
There are also foodstamps.
He has. This happens most winters, regardless of pandemics haha. Unemployment requires some confirmation from our state’s masonry union since they’re his boss’ boss, you know? They don’t ever do anything though. They say they’ll talk to my dad’s boss, either just don’t, or do and just completely don’t give a shit. I’m really not sure what goes down.
His bosses are absolutely shady, horrible men. I worked there before and didn’t like them. He started the job fresh outta high school cause he had me, stayed long enough to reach the highest level he could, and now without any other job experience or education it’s his best option, even if it sucks.
But thank you for the info - I’ll look into it and see if there any loopholes.
Correct, however I doubt the shift would suddenly be so dramatic that the vast majority supports relaxing currently near non-existent regulations (compared to other developed nations). If you wish to discuss this, I’m happy to discuss it in my thread/the coronavirus thread. I’m very interested in hearing arguments as to why guns shouldn’t be regulated/why civilians should carry weapons in public. Due to my particular political ideologies, it’s understandable that I’d gravitate towards crowds/friends with similar ideologies. Furthermore, my entire family isn’t exactly pro-gun (far more anti-gun than I am)… despite the fact that some of them are rather “right wing”. I’ve looked at a fair bit of data, so my opinion isn’t exactly based on a lack of education… but I will admit I haven’t heard much from the opposing body of thought, hence I am interested to hear what the extensively pro-gun crowd has to say.
- Why is gun control a bad idea
- Why untrained civilians carry firearms in public (as opposed to the military, LE officers etc)