Coronavirus - What Happened?

This is what’s been happening. Over the past… Say 5-8 yrs or so the government has become increasingly authoritative.

Prior to covid-19 this was kind of the direction we were going in

So… Not exactly suprising any shred of individualistic freedom has been taken away at this point. Im all for authoritarian measures being taken for a month or two, but generally this trend within Aus has me worried

I don’t believe this trend towards authoritarianism is permenant. You’ve got the youth in particular, certain political parties pushing back… Despite this, being Australian does have a few benefits… Universal healthcare for all particuarly comes to mind, low firearm homicide rates, low unemployment rates etc.

It depends what is important to you… I happen to believe in the concept of personal freedoms (so long as you’re choices don’t directly harm others) thus I find our current situation irritating.

How so? And it’s not my study either, plus two other have similar results.

Because you don’t know what you are talking about. What would be the point of multiple studies saying that people don’t have symptoms of whatever virus immediately after being infected? That is obvious.

You are mentally disturbed. What the hell does that have to do with this?

It was also a different argument we couldn’t find common ground with, hence the agreement to disagree. Though this exact same scenario also occured two years back within the thread about the guy who botched his one night stand with his gf/ex. That being said, I didn’t exactly have to bring the last arguement up, it was immature of me.

As to the Iceland study, if I recall correctly said study didn’t take into account following up with tested asymptomatic patients

I’m not responding to the rest as I’ve surrendered regarding this argument (though I don’t agree with you). As I was the first party to surrender you get to make the last argumentative point.

You can believe that I don’t know what I’m talking about, that’s totally fine… Perhaps you’re right, I’m by no means an expert.

Donald Trump has reportedly been promoting the mass use of hydroxychloquine to the public… Despite the fact that this drug in particular has only been confirmed to aid within regards to reducing the severity of covid-19 in-vitro…

Clinical data regarding humans is rather conflicting. One study (open label trial) indicates it may be effective to reduce viral load… However this trial also used azithromycin.

A new study coming out of China indicates the drug isn’t effective, makes no difference pertaining to prognosis.

Recommending the masses use a drug that isn’t particularly side effect friendly to begin with is extremely irresponsible. Use of hydroxychloquine has been implicated within inducing arrythmia and more rarely cardiomyopathy, bone marrow supression/associated aplastic anaemia if severe enough etc.

Finally, I believe the drug theoretically works by slowing the rate of viral replication… If the populace starts taking this en mass (courses aren’t particuarly long in duration) they’ll probably still be just as prone to infection… It’s not a vaccine.

Also saw an article (could’ve been biased, I didn’t look into this) stating Trump is already talking about opening up the USA/loosing restrictions… Jesus Christ… Look at the death rate/infection rate present in NYC, the current number of cases, current burden induced upon the healthcare system… Opening the country back up and letting people do whatever they want will exponentially increase rates of spread.

I don’t think the US healthcare system could cope with the “herd immunity” strategy… They don’t have enough ICU beds to hold ten million people…

Disaster.

I wouldn’t wish a deadly illness on anyone but, if there is anything positive to be gained by this, it’s that it might get people to take this virus more seriously. It’s sad to think someone famous has to get seriously ill from it in order to do that. All of the regular folk, who we don’t know, weren’t enough. The odds are in his favor to make a recovery.

Unless he gets his medical care the same place Elvis Costello gets his glasses.

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It’s the transfer after 10 days to the ICU that is worrying.

Also, I’m pretty sure that’s he unconscious - the emphatic denials by aides had this very old-school Soviet feeling about them.

Apparently he spoke to Raab earlier today to have him deputised. He’d resisted that until now.

Hoping for the best man. This shit got real for me in a hurry when I found out a good friends parents both got it and it looks like her dad isn’t likely to survive last i was told. Although I don’t pretend to know a lot about the man he seems like a pretty well liked leader.

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People wonder why I get so irritated:




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Here we go with the panic:

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I’m shook, mate. The blow to the nation’s morale would be devastating. I really hope he pulls through.

Sorry to hear this. Hope he pulls through.

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I read that 50% of the people admitted to the ICU in the uk, die. So it’s pretty serious.

Extremely.

That’s a chilling stat. Do we have context on why that is? Is the UK just much less likely than us to send someone to the ICU in general? Or was the 50% number linked to those with the virus? Just curious.

It’s ‘resolved’ cases. Most in the ICU are still in it. It could hold, or it could drop precipitously.

Right now it’s resolved as determined by alive/dead.

How many people testing positive end up on the ICU, though? Right now our hospitalization rate is like 25ish% for those testing positive with about 13% of that 25% end up dying. Why would the UK be so much higher?

20% of 20% I think.

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It can’t help that he was working at one of the most stressful jobs while sick, and continued to do so until today.

Yeah was trying to find clarification for exactly what was meant by Z’s post as it was vague to me. Looks like Legal hit it for us.

Yeah, these numbers are ever changing.

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