Coyote, you answered your own question. When the police officer in question begins to doubt the constitutionality and legitimacy of the laws that he/she is called upon to enforce, it’s time to turn in the badge. I trust that the Judicial and Legislative branches of my government will do their jobs, and I will do mine as a peace officer. If and when they screw up and decide, for example, that they are going to confiscate all privately owned firearms, guess what? I’ll turn in my badge and stand shoulder to shoulder with my fellow citizens to prevent that from happening.
If cops in general are good cops, then why is it that 70% of the people in prison in this country are NON-VIOLENT drug offenders??? That is what cops do. They bust drug users and drug dealers. 7 out of ten of the people they arrest would be otherwise deamed good citizens. People who aren’t hurting anyone but themselves are the ones who pay for the whole system to fuck all of us.
ps. Hey cockmongrel, there was this dude a few years back that walked into a 7-11 with an AK47 on his arm and told the dude behind the counter, just to call the police and he would get to see something really cool. When the cops showed up, he carved them up before they were able to get out of the car. Oh, what I would have given to be there.
“but I think she’s beginning to see how much this is going to affect OUR lives.” It sounds like the soon-to-be-sheriff is getting serious…maybe even hitched. It has a nice ring to it…Sheriff and Mrs. Dick. What’s the scoop here Demo? Should I be ironing my party clothes?
What unconstitutional laws are you talking about? Has the supreme court stated they were? Since the Constitution specifically empowers them to decide such matters. Which is in itself constitutional. There your problem is solved for you.
Once again, cops enforce the laws set by our duly elected officials. If these laws are unconstitutional they can be struck down by the Supreme Court. And connesiur, you’re a scumbag. Please D-end provide the source of your ‘statistics’. Demo don’t listen to these kids, you are doing a noble thing.
In my experience cops are nothing but trouble.
Why is it that the people who hate police are always the weakest members of society who would be the first to get necked if there were no police?
Has anyone heard about this cop who traded sex for dropping dui charges? Here’s the article http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp-dyn/articles/A53951-2002Apr2.html
D_END, if you don't want guys with Demo's attitude and enthusiasm doing that job, who do you want doing it? The cops that go bad because they are hanging around that 2% were WEAK and had low moral/ethical standards to begin with. I know there are shit cops out there, but I sleep better at night knowing that there are still guys like Demo out there, looking out for me and mine, because truly good, ethical cops are getting harder and harder to find.
Who said you were invited? You told about the pizzas!
D_END, I know lots of cops personally, and to a person they are all upstanding folks. As a matter of fact, they are a lot of fun to hang out with; in order to do the job you have to have one hell of a sense of humor. As for the stats you quoted…show them to me. Dance with the Devil? Nah, if he tries anything I’ll kick him in the junk. I’m too much of a Boy Scout to go dirty. Have a nice day, and stay in school kids!
P.S. Avoids, get out the iron. :)
NOT INVITED??? That’s a heck of a note. But watch out Demo’s Girl, with all the free donuts and other free fat pills he will get as a peace officer, they will be calling him Pudgy Dick shortly. As to steroids and cops, I would personally prefer to have some cop on steroids come to my rescue than some cop whose only exercise is lifting a can of Bud! Maybe they ought to change the law so that roids are legal for cops and firemen. They need them to do a job that most of us would not or could not do. Now watch some bigmouthed, small gun Newbie jump all over me because he doesn’t understand my moniker! Use the search engine asshole and educate yourself. And, sure there are bad cops just as there are bad CPA’s. However, I think the ratio of good cops to bad cops is probably better overall than the rest of humanity. On reflection, I probably would have posted something a little nicer if Demo’s Girl hadn’t banned me from the upcoming celebration. 
To anyone who’s interested, here is the Police Officer’s Code of Ethics, a copy of which I have kept since I was fifteen. THIS is what being a cop is all about.
As a law enforcement officer, my fundamental duty is to serve mankind; to safeguard lives and property, to protect the innocent against deception, the weak against oppression or intimidation, and the peaceful against violence or disorder; and to respect the Constitutional rights of all men to liberty, equality and justice.
I will keep my private life unsullied as an example to all; maintain courageous calm in the face of danger, scorn, or ridicule; develop self-restraint; and be constantly mindful of the welfare of others. Honest in thought and deed in both my personal and official life, I will be exemplary in obeying the laws of the land and the regulations of my department. Whatever I see or hear of a confidential nature or that is confided to me in my official capacity will be kept ever secret unless revelation is necessary in the performance of my duty.
I will never act officiously or permit personal feelings, prejudices, animosities, or friendships to influence my decisions. With no compromise for crime and with relentless prosecution of criminals, I will enforce the law courteously and appropriately without fear or favor, malice or ill will, never employing unnecessary force or violence and never accepting gratuities.
I recognize the badge of my office as a symbol of public faith, and I accept it as a public trust to be held so long as I am true to the ethics of the police service. I will constantly strive to achieve these objectives and ideals, dedicating myself before God to my chosen profession…………..
Well sir, you are certainly idealistic. Maybe you do want to help people/society. Thats great. But the world is not black and white, as you will see. When you said you would report a fellow officer for wrongdoing, I think you would be considered a snitch by your peers (other cops).
You cannot make the world conform to your idea of reality. I fear that you may end up trying to dictate your own brand of morality. Are you going to enforce sodomy laws on known homosexuals, such as MooCow and HercUnchained? You wont be at party with joints, how about homosexuals? Or maybe I seduced someones 17 year old daughter. You want to start a war with me? No, its just not worth all the bloodshed. (Remember First Blood?)
What if you were a good cop, but not so narrowminded? Would that be so bad? Didnt Jesus say to pay attention to the spirit of the law, not the letter? How about going after real criminals, and you will have my support.
Cockmongrel, at least try to make a rational argument. Anti-sodomy legislation falls into the category of blue laws (look it up). They aren’t enforced any more. Do you honestly think that if a man was caught having sex with another man that they would be prosecuted? That would be an ACLU front page case the INSTANT it hit, and rightly so.
If I ratted on a fellow officer and my peers shunned me, guess what? I’d quit, because I don’t want to work for that department. In addition, I would do everything that I could to shed light on the problem. It is the responsibility of each individual officer to hold themselves and their coworkers accountable. Dirty cops piss me off more than they piss you off, I PROMISE you that.
As for your reference to First Blood, yeah, I remember. What, exactly, is your point? Stop waving your dick at me, it really isn’t that impressive.
Why, exactly, am I narrow minded? Because I believe that cops should obey the law? Because I believe that they should hold themselves to a higher standard? Uhh, some people would call that being ethical (look that one up, too). And I absolutely LOVE your suggestion that cops go after the “real” criminals. Thanks, I’ll remember that. :)
I don't think that every cop has to be Joe Friday (he'd just be a pain in the ass to work with anyway), but I DO think that cops need to act as though EVERYONE is watching them. In truth, everyone is, and that's the way it should be.
I have many persons in my family who are presently law enforcement or retired from. They wanted me to do the same, yet I could not handle the hypocracy of such a position and knew I would not get along with other officers. I know of some who have siphoned gasoline from patrol cars, done steriods, dress and act basically like gang-bangers, have gand-styled department tattoos. I have seen them party and get drunk in public locations and make asses of themselves and think they can do whatever they want becasue they are cops. I also know many of them cheat on their wives/husbands (they have even hit on my wife often). It’s hard to support them at times as they seem to provoke a lot of the backlash they receive.
Bro- I know you live in the sticks but the difference between you and Wyatt Earp is that he lived when drugs were legal. He lived in an era where if the spouse getting beat up all the time doesn’t leave then you just stay out of their business. If all you were doing was busting people who endangered others lives then I would most definitely commend your attitude. however, you have this attitude despite knowing you will bust many many people who are not forcing anyone to do anything and they are not hurting anyone but themselves. There is another situation that happens all the time that may come up from time to time. That is what if and when you and a partner fuck up? What if you kill a rapist and it turns out he didn’t have a gun? Are you going to confess to the mistake and let his family get millions while you lose your job for cleaning up the planet? Or worse yet, you kill a drug dealer who you thought had a gun and all he was doing was sitting at his house snorting a little coke? These are the decisions you will have to make. Not this bullshit walk out of the room when someone lights a joint shit. You will be dealing with heavy shit that will in time weigh you down. Do you really think this is a good life you are going into. I garuantee those guys you hang out with have secrets that will make you puke. And you won’t know them until you are one of them. So I guess you just think drugs are that bad and we have a fundamental difference of opinion on what the constitution means to us.
“however, you have this attitude despite knowing you will bust many many people who are not forcing anyone to do anything and they are not hurting anyone but themselves.”
There is no such thing as a truly victimless crime. This is Sociology 101 stuff.
“That is what if and when you and a partner fuck up? What if you kill a rapist and it turns out he didn't have a gun?”
Depending on the situation, deadly force may be a viable and legal option. It’s pretty obvious that you’re already in over your head here...
“Or worse yet, you kill a drug dealer who you thought had a gun and all he was doing was sitting at his house snorting a little coke?”
In order to make such an incredibly stupid mistake one must be incompetent to begin with. How stupid does one have to be to mistake a straw and mirror for a gun?
“These are the decisions you will have to make. Not this bullshit walk out of the room when someone lights a joint shit. You will be dealing with heavy shit that will in time weigh you down.”
Thanks, but I am well aware of what I am getting ready to do. I’ve spent almost 20 years prepping for this job. Got that? TWENTY YEARS. Five of which (by far the easiest) was spent in college studying criminology, sociology, police administration, and yes, police corruption. Have you spent twenty years preparing yourself for anything?
“I garuantee those guys you hang out with have secrets that will make you puke. And you won't know them until you are one of them.”
So what, now in addition to knowing more about the nature of police work than I, you have amazing psychic powers as well? You can divine the thoughts of people that you don’t know, have never met, and have never communicated with in any way simply because they wear a badge? You know my friends better than I do? Uh huh. I gotcha.
I really do find it interesting that the very people that encourage me not to “ruin my life” by becoming a cop are of the same folks that I will be arresting. Very interesting indeed.
Demo Pig. The reason you are a pig is because you are pig headed. You know what is best for society and damn it…You are gonna make everyone do it your way. Yeah right. Good luck. Hey stupid, smart drug dealers will always get away with it. You barely ever get anyone really smart and when you do you don’t even phase them. You will certainly never stop the demand and you will not change the market for more than a few hours at a time. I would be willing to bet that out there in the sticks the only thing you’ll be doing is breaking up high school parties. You’ll probably get off on it. You know what I love best about law enforcement? I love the fact that the cops will never be paid based on performance . What is up with the “no such thing as a victimless crime” comment? Are you serious? J-walking is a crime. It is a fact that it is impossible to save someone from themself. Like I said before we just have a difference in opinion of what the constitution and freedom mean.
And by the way the part about the heavy decisions....You just can't say you'll be perfect in every situation because you are human, the thing is when a cop fucks up it usually destroys lives. I would rather let people do whatever drug they want than risk one persons' life.
Isn’t it ironic that the drug users and obvious losers are telling you that you’ll “ruin your life” becoming a cop. Cops don’t make the law folks. We do, through our eleted officials, as Mr. Tolerant has said. I don’t hear cockmongrel being brave and drumming up violence against senators and Judges. Do you hate judges too D_end? After all, cops only bring you in, judges (and maybe a jury) put you in prison. How about juries? Do you hate juries? After all, a jury decides guilt and innocence and/or sentences in many cases. Demo you are doing a great thing these scumbags could never do. Their want to smoke pot in peace outweights the lives saved by police officers everyday in this country. These scumbags want to be able to drink underage, so who cares if a cop has just taken a rapist off the streets while nearly being stabbed himself in the process. Scumbags can’t operate in a democratic republic and the society it produces. A cop is charged with the duty set by our elected officials. If you don’t like a law try to get like minded individuals elected. And if your ideals don’t make it to reality, too fucking bad. We aren’t here to be ruled by a minority of scumbags.