Continuing Use Indefinitely?

Hello everyone, long time lurker and reader here.

I started my first cycle 9 weeks ago after training natty for about 16 years. I have one week left of this “cycle” but I am currently very unsure about whether I want to cycle or simply stay committed to year round use.

The main reason for my indecisiveness is that there are numbers I wanted to achieve at the beginning of this cycle that I am currently nowhere near hitting, I’m a raw powerlifter and the best lifts I accomplished natty were a 250kg squat, a 260kg deadlift and a 160kg bench at a bodyweight just shy of 100kg.

I am currently sitting at 98kg with a much more favorable composition than natty (far less bodyfat and far more muscle) I wanted at least a 300kg squat and deadlift and ideally a 200kg bench.

In the last 9 weeks I have gone from squatting 180kg for 8 sets of 3 to a 230kg paused squat for 8 sets of 3, so quite the increase but obviously no where near 300kg for one.

Deadlift is sat at 250kg for 5 sets of 2, again 300kg is probably not on the cards right now.

Bench has increased the most dramatically, I can pause bench 150kg for 5 sets of 3 now, I can beat my natty pb but probably by around 10kg or 15kg obviously I am nowhere near 200kg.

Obviously if I come off cycle, these numbers are likely to go right down again, with my current living standards (a very physical job with long hours and graveyard shifts) I almost feel like the gear has been a bit of a waste of time if I come off now. If I want to take my lifting seriously and compete at a certain level it feels like year round usage might be the only way I can accomplish my immediate goals and beyond.

Does anybody have any advice, I would greatly appreciate hearing some!

Male, 30 years old, 5’9’’ and currently 98kg. BF% certainly no higher than 15%

using:

500mg test cyp per week (Mon/Thurs)
Tbol for first four weeks @ 50mg day
Dbol for two weeks since 17/12/2019 @ 50mg day

No side effects so far other than ball shrinkage, not even acne. Have not been taking an AI as have felt no need.

It might be prudent of me to mention that if there are any powerlifting coaches out there with expertise in enhancement and how I can remain on with as little risk as possible and up my game then I am more than willing to pay for your advice, just get in touch with your credentials and we can take it from there!

Year round usage with the intent of seriously competing… sure… but not 500mg test 50mg orals year round

Perhaps 250-300mg test would suit you’re needs?

Can i use 300mg per week with little to no sides? How will such a small amount benefit me over 500mg or is there very little effective difference when it comes to strength?

Honestly I’m not too fussed about size, it has just been a very real side effect of strength training and especially the gear, if I could get stronger and even lose some weight it would be a bonus.

Literature states 300mg weekly is acutely safe for up to 20 weeks… long term there is likely going to be some level of detriment in regards to cardiovascular health status, neurology etc

Out of curiosity, what is the highest dosage that is considered safe for long term, indefinitely?

No literature exists to even outwardly confirm replacement dosages are safe, esp for the elderly or otherwise in those that wouldn’t otherwise have adequate test levels

Someone with secondary hypogonadism induced by say obesity, they take the T but continue to eat badly, does the T aggravate pre-existing cardiovascular risk factors? Who knows

200mg weekly has been shown to be “well tolerated” for up to 18 months

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Thank for your input and the information. I think what I will most likely do now is see this cycle out until Monday, which will be the last day of my 10 week cycle. I stopped the Dbol yesterday, then I’m planning to start PCT on the 20th January. Then when the time comes for the next cycle I will make my decisions then as I don’t want to make any decisions on impulse. I think there is a bit of fear there about coming off now too, with how good it has felt to be on and knowing how shitty I will potential be feeling in a few weeks time.