Constantly Aching and Feeling Stiff

@Njord
Thanks for the link, I’m not a med pro and not particularly interested in this so just read it briefly a couple of times as way too many figures for me to take in but I cant see where it confirms your point? In fact in the conclusions it states;

Among Medicare B beneficiaries aged 66–99 with neck pain, incidence of vertebrobasilar stroke was extremely low. Small differences in risk between patients who saw a chiropractor and those who saw a primary care physician are probably not clinically significant.

This is referenced again in @granger1’s post and it also states that the risk of stroke increases after spinal manipulation, however it repeatedly seems to say this risk is no higher being done by a chiropractor than any other person.
Granger1’s post has a study that deals with people under 45 being at greater risk, however this post only deals with 6 people (in a sample of 582) so as it states

Furthermore, we caution that such rate estimates can easily be overemphasized. Statements about attributable rates imply a causal association and assume that observed relative risk values are unaffected by bias. This study design does not permit us to estimate the number of cases that are truly the result of trauma sustained during manipulation.

And

While the observations here are compatible with the argument that there is an increased risk of VBA in young adults from cervical manipulations as performed in clinical practice in this province, they still do not provide conclusive evidence.

The post titled Neurologists warn (sorry it doesn’t like me linking it twice) seems like it should be good but uses a quote from the above paper

A recent study by researchers from the Institute of Clinical Evaluative Sciences in Ontario found that patients younger than 45 who had experienced stroke related to posterior circulation are 5 times more likely than controls to have visited a chiropractor within a week of the event

But doesn’t mention that the paper they reference states there isn’t enough evidence in this study to confirm this.
Leaving out a major part of an argument so you look better is human, but not medically sound.

Again, I’m neither for or against having people click your back if that’s what you want done and personally I wouldnt get it done, if I was these papers would make me ask questions at a chiropractors but not stop me going.
Again, not a med pro so may have read these wrong.

posted links… also if weightlifting cause stroke imagine cranking on someones neck… at any rate scary if your a chiro and werent taught any risk assessment for stroke… well documented as ive shown…

yes its cited as title is in the pragraph ie u can look up the study… also citations for 1 in 5000 strokes are caused by chiro… again, its pretty logical and has been observed and observed enough for neurologists to be concerned…and as they dont collect data “no evidence” but if see it enough it becomes obvious…

anyhoo, long story short chiro wont look after you, educate yourself, know there is an increase risk. if have strokes in your family or HBP hemocrit etc just dont do it…there really is no hard evidence they align anything… again, they are alligning energy from sky to earth which is cause of all disease as chiro say… i bang my head against the wall telling people this and 9/10 people either get chronic pain that is worse or get a stroke/ slipped disk… yaa shoulda listened to u but he was nice and sounded like he knew his stuff and felt good… i get it, feels good, but there is a reason grandma said dont crack your knuckles… next time u hear of someone having a stroke ask if had chiro 2-3 weeks prior… u may be surprised…

Sorry but everything you’ve posted seems to say the risk is the same from a chiropractor or an MD, the post that did point towards chiropractors being more likely left bits out of the study they quoted (as mentioned above).

Sorry to derail the thread even further @antelope but I posted on another website where they have a medical question forum (Fetlife.com) asking for info. This site was listed as a source of info for them, obviously very anti osteopath and a lot is old and hopefully out of date but interesting no less
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obv u didnt read it… lol

My point is highlighting the extremely low risk of stroke from chiropractic work, which the article confirms. It does suggest a slight risk but at 0.05 - 1.6 incidents per 10,000,000 adjustments, the risk doesn’t match the alarm bells.

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