Confidence + muscle = P.I. M.P.

MD: All of this post is 3M (Meat Market Mode) oriented.

First of all, generalization, like rumors, exist because most of the time theyre true and/or they work. Theres no smoke without fire. While exceptions will always exist, youre better off starting on classics` and refining your pitch, like any good salesman, after you get some feedback.

And, in the 3M mode, being ones self will give you some babes, but since youre only there for one night, a facade/act (note:if youre good at it) will broaden the range of possible babes. Who gives a shit about being <i>that</i> real **? Its not like the others going to see you around next time... So giving a good show always helps. And by hounding most of what we want, we are being true to our male nature. Hope its not too real for you so far. ;p

Finding out what works has nothing to do with confidence. It has to do with results, and refining your sales pitch will bang you more babes, and that`s the bottom line in the 3M mode. You still need confidence to land the pitch with conviction, though, or have compensating assets that help (looks, money, status, power, etc.).

And any guy who can fake confidence well enough will always bang more babes, just because, in part, he asks for more. The law of great numbers, so to say, will always give him a helping hand if he pitches enough, whatever game he had before.

Also, most women are not that honest either at start (ladder theory/kiss of death comes to mind), so using technique to drill through the shield (sometimes bitch shield) is just standard warfare. And putting up an act is actually fighting fire with fire, so to say.

But in the 3M world, everything is fair game. So why all that fuss about honesty and being genuine? It`s all short-term selling to have sex. You just have to hit the right buttons in the right way. Good con men will always reap more, whatever game they had at start before finding the con-methodology.

There`s a reason why techniques stand the test of time: they work. You just need enough brain power and killing instinct to use them right.

**Proof of the pudding that people love deception: look at how much money they can give to actors who, by definition, are phony, yet still move people more than any fellow man. Real? Nope. Effect? Yes. Most women have no idea of how Nicholas Cage would be in real life, but a good quantity of women I know would go to bed with him without a question nevertheless, specially after putting his Con Air act. I am not even talking about classics like Tom Cruise or Brad Pitt, to start. Deception and fake, well done, still rules in the 3M world.

gymdawg to MD: Oh, and women never make generalizations about men.

I love you DAN C.

MD, I don’t ask 800lbs how to lift it. I ask a guy who’s lifted 800lbs how to lift it. And I assume we were only talking about getting laid here. Yes, the things you do to get you laid can get you a girlfriend as well, but not a very good one.

Asking women how to get in their pants is the worst thing you can do. Asking them how to get to their hearts brings more positive results, though.

As far as generalizing, most women do have certain things in common, and when trying to get laid, a guy just needs to increase his odds, so he needs to play up to the most often occuring issues and insecurities.

Men are so much easier to play, though. So, don’t think that there’s any misogyny going on here (at least on my part). I love women; my life wouldn’t be complete without my wife, but if you want to get laid (and you’re not now), then you need to learn from those more experienced than you. That’s what this thread is for.

bobo - I know right. It’s amazing. And it’s not just confidence in that situation, because you know you’re driving your buddy’s car.

 Women like money, that's a fact. Good women like men to have their shit together. Little guys just want a ride.

Relationships are different than getting laid. Hopefully, there is a little more thought in a relationship , than plain ole sport f@#$ing. You’re simply drawing froma larger population sample for the laid as opposed to girlfriend.

For the girlfriend, she’ll still want you to support yourself, but wants the total package to be well rounded. Compatibility, et al. Getting laid is confidence, risk taking, and liquoring up loose women. Hell, nowadays, you don’t even have to liquor them up. At this point, the “trappings” do work.

Also, ninjas get all the women.

True, true. the combination of self confidence, aka, flipping out well and cutting off heads and guitar playing ability is unbeatable. Add in the cool black outfits and you got any woman’s fantasy

Guitar playing Ninja

That’s it. Exactly what attracted me to Ko.

Bullseye…er…should I say, “Bonzai!”

Gymdawg: Yes, women do make generalizations about men and when I hear women doing it, I call them on it too.

To all the boys: If getting laid is the only thing you’re interested in then by all means, continue with the “tried and true” methods. But, don’t bitch about all women being interested only in the size of your bank accounts, the kind of cars you drive, yada, yada, yada.

If you’re looking for shallow encounters you will meet shallow women in return. 'Nuff said.

MD: I wholeheartedly agree.

Nicely said, MD.

Agreed.

I’d like to add to my last post: I’ve never actually found one of these “real women,” but supposedly they do exist.

It’s time to look overseas. I met this 28 yr old Italian veterinarian. Mmmmmm

Jared NFS, “Also, ninjas get all the women.” – And the women don’t even know it, that’s what’s cool about ninjas!

Also, well said Dan C.

SCRUBMD2B: The easy joke ‘doggy style’ joke comes to mind. ;p

As for the post, thanks, just saying what comes naturally.

I agree w/ you MD 100% but, look at the title of this post “Confidence + muscle = P.I. M.P.” From the title were just talkin about P.I.M.Ping and Hoe ing ;). No offense to the ladies on this board.

For all you ninja lovers out there, here ya go.
http://www.realultimatepower.net/

there’s some funny stuff, you’ll fit right in. :stuck_out_tongue:


Thank you for that clarification, fitone. I do sometimes get the impression you guys forget there are women on this board.

Maybe that’s why more women are reluctant to post. I wonder if I’m the only one who feels sometimes you fellas don’t show much respect for us.

Disclaimer: This is not intended as an insult; it is simply one woman’s observation and opinion. I hope you will take it in the non-threatening spirit in which it is intended.


I wish to make an amendment to my last post. On rereading it, I realize it may have sounded as if I was making generalizations about the men on this board.

I was not. I should have said I feel that sometimes there are some of you boys who don’t appear to show respect for women.

I apologize for any misunderstanding.

MD: No problem with potential disrespect.

To all those shy women (or people) who hesitate, that`s, sadly, their problem. They could learn some really important distinctions, based on reality and not just feelings/whims.

I could answer this:

We are men. We can stand alone with our beliefs. We dont need social proof or attention as much (if at all) as women to be comfortable with who we are and our beliefs. We dont care that much (if at all) that you do not approve of how we are based on YOUR (feminine) standards, because whatever you think of it, we still are what we are, and we will never be like women on some points. And you can`t make us feel guilty for being true to our nature. Well, at least not indefinitely (see American Beauty if you have doubts, right on the money).

In computer terms, our operating system is different from women`s. Not necessarily better or worse. Just different. Both have their place, and everything stays fine when each is true to their own (sane) nature.

You have a certain idea, possibly idealized, of who we are and how we think. We can give you the answer if you ask for it. The question is, do you really want to hear it? If you dont ask (for) it, we will refrain for politeness and civilitys sake, but that does not mean we do not think it.

Thats the fine line between girls and women: women can take it (reality for what it is). Girls cant.

Thats also why we will walk halfway across earth to find the right WOMAN. With women, theres hope of a healthy relationship. We cant respect girls. With girls, you just become the replacement father. We cant respect that. And, girls being what they are, dont respect us for who we are, so treating them like shit is fair game, if we have some time to lose (most of men have a life, boys dont).

The best way to sum it up: Dont you should on me if you come from Girl-land</b> (not to be confounded with Woman-land, if you are a real woman, please be our guest).</i> Like someone said: If you cant stand the heat, don`t stay in the kitchen.

(Yeah, sure, I know someone will bring up the some men (read:boys) are assholes and oh women are not <i>all</i> like <i>that</i>. Honestly, that subset exists and I dont care. I dont cause it. I cant control it. I can`t care for it – that subset that is.)

Dan: You raise some good points.

Before I continue, I would like to make it clear I realize fully this board is populated mostly by men. As such, discussions about women, women and sex, wanting to get laid, and what women really want are inevitable. I don’t blame you for that.

I also realize that a lot of what some of you boys post at times is just boy talk and probably doesn’t mean much in the long run.

What bothers me is when you make generalizations about women. I certainly don’t measure a man by the size of his bank account, what kind of car he drives, or what he does for a living. And I hate those men-bashing jokes that circulate all too frequently.

I have always thought of myself as a real woman. Dan, I’m not sure what you mean by that, but, my definition of a real woman is one who doesn’t live her life by whatever standards society deems acceptable for her.

All I ask is that you gentlemen treat us as individuals. Is that too much to ask?

With that said I will adopt a take-it-with-a-grain-of-salt attitude from now on when frequenting this board.

MD: Why so worried about generalizations? If you`re that different, then it shows and any fool will make himself look even more foolish if he calls some out-of-nowhere, no-basis-in-real-life stupidity?

Call me a hunter, but everytime I hear a woman that wants to be treated differently, I see it as a thinly-veiled attempt for attention and I automatically think Wow. So easily derailed with only one comment. I guess shed die if I ever lied to her for a week and told heror, in shortAnother one whos needy for attention, who cant take it or put them up or any combo of all three. If I was in a bar and heard that stuff, Id send the lady a neg hit just to bust her balloon, but I know better.

Fuck, if youre different, it will show. And if the dork cant see it, too bad for him.

Makes you think about how much others opinions are important in your life. And how ones open to reality.

As for the a woman does what she damn wants line, please! That open season, everything goes, excuse all phrase is actually a repellent for me (maybe not all men, but my buddies too).

First of all, you cant gain mens respect if youre always right in your own little bubble. Because it precludes that you will probably never learn anything unless its a non-negotiable thing, like consequences you cant escape (car accident, sickness, broken heart, etc.) And no sane guy wants to get stuck with a women who cant learn or pay attentionon a daily basis. Might as well talk to a wall, or plain not listen back (which is just fair game, if you really think of it).

Youre actually better off if you have some standards that you are willing to back and fight for instead of some <i>oh no, not me, I am not like that, I keep all my options open, dont expect me to be consistent because I need the escape door when things get rough mentality that we men all hate. Fuck, even my dog didnt find excuses when he did a bad thing, like eating up a whole loaf of cheese-bread. Why do people, supposedly more evolved, take the easy way out instead of learning? Im not sure I want to know…

By the way, I dont hate women. I hate stupidity and people who have not grown up to their age. I expect adults to be adults, and when I see them time-regressing to kids when real-life arguments arrive, I cant help it but laugh at them. And, before you ask, most adults dont fit the bill, and women, for some reason, think they can escape it better than men (Oh, thats how we are…). Fine…by the same logic, I guess Ill judge you just like I am then (Oh, thats what we are too…). So that argument is shot out of the water by itself. Hell, Im starting to like that...its so…easy! sneer

Human nature doesnt seem to have changed that much for all the crusades of the last century. Ill keep finding exceptional people in the meanwhile. Few and far between, yep.