[quote]DragnCarry wrote:
My calm, blissful ignorance has been shattered!
I’ll let you know how I go next Tuesday when I try on the Z-suit for the first time. There is no hope of me being able to get it on myself, it’s tight. I can’t get it more than a couple of inches past my knees, I’m actually frightened I will have to have it cut off me. I was a few pounds heavier last time I tried though.
I would have thought ~400lb (my current raw lifts) was enough to get a Z-suit to depth? I’ve seen people squatting 300lb in Z-suits. I hope I didn’t figure too wrong.
I’ll see how I go on Tuesday before I decide on my Squat opener. Bench and Deadlift will be raw, these should be pretty easy to choose if my shoulders are feeling good (and they should be). I’ll just do what I can grind out a triple for, that seems to be the most common advice.[/quote]
You may be good with the Z suit. I just started training with one, never having used a suit before. It was recommended by one of the other women here as a good ‘starter’ one that’s easy to learn.
Clearly my weights are no where near as heavy as yours and I’ve had no problem breaking parallel from the first time.
Mine was really tight too. I couldn’t get it past my knees when I first got it.
December will be my first meet as well. A friend of mine (competes at ~165 lb/75 kg who can total at least 1600 lbs/727 kg in gear) recommended opening with weights you can hit for a double. He also recommended attempting opening weights 2 weeks before competition for doubles to gauge yourself, and going 50% the week before.
I’m still deciding between competing at 198 or 220 (90 or 100 kg; currently weight 210/95.5 kg). Figure I’ll try to cut down and see how it goes in the next 2 weeks before registering. Hoping to total 1200/ 545.5 kg raw.
[quote]D_S wrote:
December will be my first meet as well. A friend of mine (competes at ~165 lb/75 kg who can total at least 1600 lbs/727 kg in gear) recommended opening with weights you can hit for a double. He also recommended attempting opening weights 2 weeks before competition for doubles to gauge yourself, and going 50% the week before.
I’m still deciding between competing at 198 or 220 (95 or 100 kg; currently weight 210/95.5 kg). Figure I’ll try to cut down and see how it goes in the next 2 weeks before registering. Hoping to total 1200/ 545.5 kg raw.
Good luck and let us know how it goes![/quote]
Hey, that sounds like me. My first meet is going to be the USAPL American Open in Dec. Anyone else going to this one?
I’m about 214 right now, so I’m going to put on a few pounds and go at 220.
I’m actually loving the weight-loss part of it, despite the “my stomach is eating my spleen” aspect.
I know I just wouldn’t do it if it weren’t for the comp. I couldn’t keep up the light-headedness and hunger-pain for this long without a deadline. Plus, I love being this focused. (Arguably, I should be putting this focus into my work, but PL is more rewarding right now)
So I ordered another Z-suit a size too big to train in but it was held up and I didn’t think it would make it here in time for the comp.
It turned up this morning, thank god.
I’ll take them both to the gym on Tuesday morning and see how I go. At 198 I think the size 35 Z-suit will be virtually a soft-suit on me, and as ourobro_s has pointed out, it is not supposed to be a difficult suit to learn.
[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
If it’s your first meet, your opener should be the lightest weight you can hit depth in for the squat and touch with for the bench. The toughest thing to figure is how much stronger you will be at the meet as compared to the gym, especially for a first meet.
You want to start with weight that you know will result in 3 whites. Missing your opener can snowball into bombing out really fast.
Don’t underestimate how much of a toll 3 heavy squats will take on your bench and dead either.[/quote]
True dat, my first meet was a few weeks back and it’s a whole different universe than the gym. Next one is in 2.5 weeks and I’m thankful for the recent experience going into this one.
Regarding apparel and how stupid a singlet looks, I got a wrestling singlet, made for a GIRL, not like those PL singlets. I’m gonna lift heavy and look hot this time LOL.
First Attempt: 90-95% (something you can double, possible triple in gym conditions)
Second Attempt: A new PR
Third Attempt: A bigger PR
Of course these will all be based of how your warm ups go, if they feel like crap then lower your planned opener even further. It would also be a good idea to identify what sort of kg/lbs jumps you are capable of taking, some can nail a weight and jump 5kg and get stapled.
currently sitting on a:
105kg Bench
160kg Squat
210kg DL
hopeing to be mpore by the time but if i was going into the comp with those numbers id open with:
95kg Bench
150kg Squat
195kg DL
the first two are a simply -10kilos. but the DL is a mental thing i think. under 200kilos seems light as fuck, over it seems heavy as fuck to me. so just under should rocket up.
2nd attempt im going to probably go for my old PBs.
then depending on that ill decide on my third. id be happy with 5kg more than my PBs on third attempt with three white lights.
dude, just wear the suit that’s too big for the meet… a first meet is something else. And if you get judges that are rough, ipf depth can get friggin low.
The ‘too big’ suit is tight, but I got in on with the help of my wife. I got some pleasing love-bites and a bit of chafing as proof. I plan on wearing it for the comp, and will train in it tomorrow and Friday.
Stupid question - in IPF, do people leave their squat suit on for the whole comp?
[quote]DragnCarry wrote:
The ‘too big’ suit is tight, but I got in on with the help of my wife. I got some pleasing love-bites and a bit of chafing as proof. I plan on wearing it for the comp, and will train in it tomorrow and Friday.
Stupid question - in IPF, do people leave their squat suit on for the whole comp?[/quote]
No, I wear a singlet for benching with the shirt. Bring your suit slippers.
[quote]DragnCarry wrote:
The ‘too big’ suit is tight, but I got in on with the help of my wife. I got some pleasing love-bites and a bit of chafing as proof. I plan on wearing it for the comp, and will train in it tomorrow and Friday.
Stupid question - in IPF, do people leave their squat suit on for the whole comp?[/quote]
Thank god for that. I thought I just wasn’t tough enough to hack the pain for that long.
So I guess I need a soft-suit, or can you bench in shorts and t-shirt in IPF? I just wondered why I never see anyone do that in photos or videos. The rules don’t say much about it.
[quote]DragnCarry wrote:
Thank god for that. I thought I just wasn’t tough enough to hack the pain for that long.
So I guess I need a soft-suit, or can you bench in shorts and t-shirt in IPF? I just wondered why I never see anyone do that in photos or videos. The rules don’t say much about it.
Non Supportive W/L / Wrestling / Leotard / singlet. Subject to the specifications itemized (c), (d) and (e).
The suit does not require Technical Committee approval. A lifting costume must be worn and shall be of a one - piece full length lifting suit of one - ply stretch material without any patches, padding or division into panels by means of seams not necessary in the manufacture of the costume.
Any seams, false or otherwise, that in the opinion of the Technical Committee, Jury, or in their absence the referees are incorporated into the costume purely as a form of reinforcement or bracing, shall invalidate the costume from being used in the competition.
The costume must be form fitting without any looseness when worn by the lifter. The straps must be worn over the shoulders at all times while lifting in competition. The lifting suit shall be subject to the following requirements:
(a) It may be of any colour or colours
(b) The lifting suit may bear the badge, emblem, logo and / or inscription of the lifter?s national association, or sponsor. That which is offensive or liable to bring the sport into disrepute is not allowed. (Refer to Inspection of Personal Equipment item 10 for Sponsor?s Logos. The lifter?s name may be placed on the costume, or any item of personal apparel.
(c) Seams and hems must not exceed 3 cm in width and 0.5 cm in thickness. Only non-supportive leotard / singlet suits may have seams and hems exceeding 3 cm in width. The non-supportive leotard / singlet may also have a double thickness of the same material size 12 cm x 24 cm in the area of the crotch.
(d) Seams may be protected or strengthened by narrow gauge webbing or stretch material not exceeding 2 cm in width and 0.5 cm in thickness.
[quote]DragnCarry wrote:
Thanks - one-piece, so no shorts and t-shirt.[/quote]
Ask nicely… they might let you.
We had one guy at our comp who got a titan superior suit (i have no idea if its similar to a z suit, entry level squat suit i think) which was apparently too loose for him (i’ve never seen a geared lifter before, but it didn’t look THAT loose, he needed help getting it on), and he didn’t change all day. Benched in it without a problem. Having said that, it certainly didn’t look comfortable. and i think he waited till after the comp to go to the toilet cos he couldn’t get it off easy.
It can be done though.
ps. Lifting without gear is so much less complicated. Looking forward to the weights i’ll lift geared, not looking forward to the complications
