Common sense is no longer common. Neither is common knowledge or common courtesy.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Stuntman Mike wrote:
So I work out at the university rec center here at school. There are about 7-8 guys who are really serious and train regularly.
I saw one today in line at Wendy’s, sorta gave me a good feeling inside.
Because he was at Wendy’s or because he is a guy?[/quote]
Because we had a scheduled meeting in the third stall from the wall with the hand dryers.
I’m trying to disagree with your point.
[quote]TPreuss wrote:
Common sense is no longer common. Neither is common knowledge or common courtesy.[/quote]
The common courtesy is the one I miss the most.
I’ve got 18 inch gunz and 14 inch cock.
Who needs to work out?
[quote]ctschneider wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Romeo was a closet homosexual and Juliet was a Frisco dyke. The love story was a sham. Unfortunately, Shakespeare died before he could make the sequel to Romeo and Juliet entitled, “Oops, that hole doesn’t satisfy me at all” which was actually a comedy.
Now you know…and knowing is half the battle.
Well, my high school English teacher definitely skipped over that part of the story [/quote] Ours went on and on about how Shakespeare had sexual feelings for his mother… [quote]. I guess it doesn’t speak too well of public school, but hey at least now I know.
Back to the topic at hand - are you saying that I’m going to have to gain weight to get 18" gunz? What if I get too big? I don’t want to get to big, cause I might not be able to see my hawt abz. I just wanna have 18" gunz and hawt abz, all without weighing more than 155lbs.[/quote]
ctschneider wrote :
"Well, my high school English teacher definitely skipped over that part of the story. I guess it doesn’t speak too well of public school, but hey at least now I know.
Back to the topic at hand - are you saying that I’m going to have to gain weight to get 18" gunz? What if I get too big? I don’t want to get to big, cause I might not be able to see my hawt abz. I just wanna have 18" gunz and hawt abz, all without weighing more than 155lbs."
18" guns? WTF man? No-ones after 18" guns, i thought we were all here so the 155lb guys with the hawt abs could us all how to get the hawt abs.
Is someone telling me that we all listen to Prof X, Cephalic Carnage etc… and … they’re not 155lb guys with hawt abs???
ps: my quotes are the same colour as the rest of my text because I don’t know how to make them all grey and badass… I’m so sorry 
oh man, u just hit the little quote icon… they should really make this easier…
[quote]Professor X wrote:
ctschneider wrote:
Prof X, you make a good point, but I have a serious problem with this thread nonetheless.
The title sucks.
Why does it suck?
Well first of all, I’m assuming it’s an allusion to the famous line from Romeo & Juliet, “Wherefore art thou Romeo?” But you misspelled “Wherefore.” Strike one.
On to point two. “Wherefore” doesn’t mean “where,” it means “why.” (It’s the interogative analogue to “therefore.”) Strike two. What was it your high school English teacher told you? He told you this: Juliet wasn’t asking where Romeo was. She was asking why the hell Romeo had to be Romeo, and more to the point, why he had to be a Montague. After all, “What’s in a name? That which we call a rose / By any other word would smell as sweet.”
So the title fails on multiple levels, but good points all the same.
Romeo was a closet homosexual and Juliet was a Frisco dyke. The love story was a sham. Unfortunately, Shakespeare died before he could make the sequel to Romeo and Juliet entitled, “Oops, that hole doesn’t satisfy me at all” which was actually a comedy.
Now you know…and knowing is half the battle.[/quote]
“Opps that hole doesn’t satisfy me at all”. Wow that was funny.
[quote]swissrugby67 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Some of us didn’t need specific lessons in things like this…but then, some of us actually looked at the world around us and did some observations that covered these areas long before we knew how to log onto the internet.
Common sense is not so common Voltaire
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“A witty saying proves nothing” Voltaire Lol, just one of my favorite quotes by him. Carry on.
I believe the waters here are at the bodybuilding forum are murky because of the current political shift of gears. It’s okay to weigh 165lbs of nothingness and consider yourself on the same podium as the hooded man next to you topping 240lbs and gunning for 280. It is not okay to not have single digit bodyfat at all times because any higher percentage and you’re a blob. Besides a 180lb man at 7% will always look bigger than his 260lb counterpart at 15%, right?
Want bigger arms but don’t want to eat? Get the fudge out. Want a cute little six pack but want to go on a bulker? Get the fudge out. Don’t know why you don’t gain weight when you only eat 4 meals at best with 150g of protein/day at best? Get the fudge out.
If you don’t put in some time researching other training and dietary protocols that are not spoon fed to you by the site, you should not waste your time posting. More likely than not you’ll get flamed. Common sense is a rare trait in today’s “want it yesterday” generation. I don’t know if this post will survive, or if any of you will be able to read it as there’s more than half a dozen mods online and my commentary is usually deemed inflammatory.
So… seriously. Can someone please make a fucking Sticky or two at the top of the Bodybuilding page? It’s been needed for some time. Threads like “Super Slow for Strength?” and “Getting Heavier for Biceps Size?” are slaying me apart every time I log on to the forum.
Someone - X, C_C, Sento, whoever, needs to make it happen.
[quote]Growing_Boy wrote:
I believe the waters here are at the bodybuilding forum are murky because of the current political shift of gears. It’s okay to weigh 165lbs of nothingness and consider yourself on the same podium as the hooded man next to you topping 240lbs and gunning for 280. It is not okay to not have single digit bodyfat at all times because any higher percentage and you’re a blob. Besides a 180lb man at 7% will always look bigger than his 260lb counterpart at 15%, right?
Want bigger arms but don’t want to eat? Get the fudge out. Want a cute little six pack but want to go on a bulker? Get the fudge out. Don’t know why you don’t gain weight when you only eat 4 meals at best with 150g of protein/day at best? Get the fudge out.
If you don’t put in some time researching other training and dietary protocols that are not spoon fed to you by the site, you should not waste your time posting. More likely than not you’ll get flamed. Common sense is a rare trait in today’s “want it yesterday” generation. I don’t know if this post will survive, or if any of you will be able to read it as there’s more than half a dozen mods online and my commentary is usually deemed inflammatory. [/quote]
Humor-laden as it may have been, was this not the entire premise of the LaBuff thread before it was deleted?
“Now you know…and knowing is half the battle.”
Looking forward to the Rise of Cobra, are we?
[quote]PatMac wrote:
Interesting post.
But you are a doctor so what is common sense to you is likely well above anything that can be considered common sense to most.
Even your family thought you well harming yourself with the way you ate and trained (forgive me if I’m wrong here but I do remember a post a little while ago about how things got easier once you moved out). The point is that those who supplied your genetics AND your upbringing didn’t have the same common sense as you. You came by it elsewhere so to imply your knowledge is something easy to have is a mistake - you’ve earned it and try not to forget that it took a while to get it.
Newbie’s don’t have your understanding - if they did, they wouldn’t be newbie’s. It can be frustrating at times, but that’s the nature of helping others - they don’t know what they don’t know so they think they know a lot.[/quote]
You’re confusing a lack of common sense with ignorance.
I personally view common sense as an innate quality, so those who lack it simply get discounted.
The cure for ignorance is knowledge, there is no cure for the absence of common sense.
It seems the massive amounts of training routines (designed for all levels of athletes) are too complex for the beginner to sift through and select from.
Yes, what an understatement.
Why would we expect a beginner to see a huge amount of training programs and principles and just magically know which one is best for him, after all he is a beginner. The beginner will either jump between many routines, or build his own so called ‘optimal’ (bench/curls/abs) routine, based on his own limited knowledge. All bodybuilding/workout websites should have a workout for dummies sticky made by the mods where the beginner is not given options to confuse himself in deciding which workout is the ‘optimal’ or ‘best’ workout. If even the advanced trainers and mods cannot decide on a ‘very good’ workout to tell the beginners “Do this until you look like you workout”.
Some will say there is no best routine for everyone, which is true, but the concern is mis-information to noobs and a one-size-fits-all, shut-up-and-do-it approach is the one that hasn’t been tried yet.
[quote]MaxPower99 wrote:
It seems the massive amounts of training routines (designed for all levels of athletes) are too complex for the beginner to sift through and select from.
Yes, what an understatement.
Why would we expect a beginner to see a huge amount of training programs and principles and just magically know which one is best for him, after all he is a beginner. The beginner will either jump between many routines, or build his own so called ‘optimal’ (bench/curls/abs) routine, based on his own limited knowledge. All bodybuilding/workout websites should have a workout for dummies sticky made by the mods where the beginner is not given options to confuse himself in deciding which workout is the ‘optimal’ or ‘best’ workout. If even the advanced trainers and mods cannot decide on a ‘very good’ workout to tell the beginners “Do this until you look like you workout”.
Some will say there is no best routine for everyone, which is true, but the concern is mis-information to noobs and a one-size-fits-all, shut-up-and-do-it approach is the one that hasn’t been tried yet.
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Dead on.
i was at work the other day and was in the office with a couple of the other guys who work there just shooting the shit a little bit. i took of my shirt cause it was sweaty and just nasty feeling (i had a wifebeater on under) and one of them says “youre big” in a matter of fact kind of way. “…but you have a gut, you should do crunches” the other kid is like “do you think he gives a fuck? do you know how much protein you need to eat?”
its like yeah, sorry my stomach sticks out a little more than yours because i just ate 15 minutes ago.
FYI for those still looking, I think common sense is on sale at Wal-Mart this week.
[quote]waldo21212 wrote:
FYI for those still looking, I think common sense is on sale at Wal-Mart this week.[/quote]
I’m 6’4 130lbs. Should I combine this “common-sense” with my pre workout shake or my post workout shake. Also will it help me stay 6% BF. I don’t want to get fat. I’m currently eating 1500 calories to build muscle and lose fat. My workouts are the spin classes at my rec center. I can’t gain weight, someone help.
[quote]Growing_Boy wrote:
I believe the waters here are at the bodybuilding forum are murky because of the current political shift of gears. It’s okay to weigh 165lbs of nothingness and consider yourself on the same podium as the hooded man next to you topping 240lbs and gunning for 280. It is not okay to not have single digit bodyfat at all times because any higher percentage and you’re a blob. Besides a 180lb man at 7% will always look bigger than his 260lb counterpart at 15%, right? [/quote]
I feel like this extends beyond just this website.
Like the Good Prof said: “The standards have been lowered.”
Case in point: I was forced to watch a teeny bopper show, that shall go unnamed to save what little of my pride I have left. I was appalled that when the “stud” in this show took off his shirt the audience & characters on the show went nuts, ohhh ahhh, my he’s so hot. He looked like a victim of anorexia, there wasn’t even muscle to be lean around. I looked at my wife and thought aloud “If this is what passes as a man these days, America is fucked next time some country decides to invade in 30 years. We are heading in the wrong direction.”
I grew up with Rocky, Rambo, Commando, Predator, CO-fucking-NAN! Men are supposed to look like men, not like pre-pubescent girls.
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If you don’t put in some time researching other training and dietary protocols that are not spoon fed to you by the site, you should not waste your time posting. [/quote]
I’m not 240 yet, but…
I don’t know man, I made the best gains of my life not knowing what the fuck I was doing. Maybe it was because I was a newb, maybe it was because I was lifting progressively heavier weights, for progressively more reps, and eating anything I possibly could.
(FUCK I hate myself for taking the long lay off between college and now)
I didn’t know shit about nutrition except:
Don’t eat partially hydrogenated oils
Eat more fucking meat
Eat as much as you can, every chance you get
I didn’t know shit about lifting other than:
Chest/tri, back/bi, legs as many times a week as I could
Overtraining? Shit, if someone had said that to me I would have laughed in their face. I was lifting 5-6 days a week and drinking a case of tequila a week too. I wouldn’t have thought it was possible. If I was tired, I took a nap, if I was too hung over, I took two naps.
I went from 190lbs skinny fat fuck, to 210 and pretty lean… Then (insert ghey excuses) stopped lifting until last summer. But before I stopped lifting I stopped gaining, the last 6 months of 2.5 years I didn’t gain shit or make any progress. (I’m not trying to say my gains overall where that impressive in aggregate or individually, then or now, just saying…)
Why? Because I learned about great routines, learned how to eat “clean”… In this case the knowledge fucked my progress, because I changed what was working.
I guess my point is: There is no excuse for some of the stupid, and quite real, questions, like the one X mentioned in the OP. If you actually lift fucking weights, like you have a set, and eat, like your hungry, your going to figure out a lot of the basics. And until your advanced/elite you don’t really need too much more than the basics.
Just My opinion, I could be full retard