[quote]McG78 wrote:
86% of statistics are made up on the spot.[/quote]
Indeed
Instead of asking the big dude in the gym how he trains, find out who has made the most progress in the gym.The guy might not be the biggest,but if he or she started scrawney and is now put on 40lbs of quality muscle rather than the person who was big to begin with and just got say 20lbs heavier.
[quote]bond james bond wrote:
Instead of asking the big dude in the gym how he trains, find out who has made the most progress in the gym.The guy might not be the biggest,but if he or she started scrawney and is now put on 40lbs of quality muscle rather than the person who was big to begin with and just got say 20lbs heavier.[/quote]
Dude, going from 120 to 160 lbs with little fat gain is the easiest part of the journey… Getting lbm up to over 200 is an entirely different story.
It’s not like 90 percent of big people were born big or have the genetics of paul dillet, you know ?
[quote]bond james bond wrote:
Instead of asking the big dude in the gym how he trains, find out who has made the most progress in the gym.The guy might not be the biggest,but if he or she started scrawney and is now put on 40lbs of quality muscle rather than the person who was big to begin with and just got say 20lbs heavier.[/quote]
I disagree with this, sorry.
[quote]bond james bond wrote:
Instead of asking the big dude in the gym how he trains, find out who has made the most progress in the gym.The guy might not be the biggest,but if he or she started scrawney and is now put on 40lbs of quality muscle rather than the person who was big to begin with and just got say 20lbs heavier.[/quote]
Wow, seriously? How are you going to know who made the most progress? Are you going to take a poll of every gym member and ask them what progress they’ve made over the years?
You could save yourself a lot of time and effort by just asking, um, I don’t know ASKING THE BIG DUDE! Cripes.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
IQ wrote:
waylanderxx wrote:
Serd wrote:
This last sentence should state: Eating a solid meal after lifting instead of drinking a shake is not “optimal” so get that out your head.
A solid meal is “adequate” but not optimal for recovery and size purposes. I know a lot of people who can’t get it through their heads that eating after a workout is crucially important. Most ignorant people assume the gym is where you grow and not the dinner table.
As JB once said “If you’re not eating, you’re not growing.”
I almost changed that when I first posted it but then I realized that when you compare a solid meal to a liquid meal PWO, saying it isn’t optimal makes it sound like it’s ok, and it’s not.
Obviously there may be a few exceptions such as pre contest where you have to cut out the shakes to reduce your sodium, but other than that I see no other reason.
This isn’t necessarily true, I haven’t had a PWO shake in months and I haven’t noticed any detrimental effects with recovery or progress.
Out of interest have most of you found that PWO shakes (or a lack thereof) make a drastic difference with your recovery and/or progress or do you just accept it as a truth?
I don’t worry about drinking a shake after I lift. My main concern is that FOOD of some kind gets into me soon.
This goes back to some here acting like they need to be 100% in line with a scientific study and that not reaching that mark equals less progress.
People were making huge gains long before the latest notion that everyone needs a protein shake specifically right after lifting.[/quote]
Let’s put it this way. If you’re not making progress it isn’t because of a sub optimal shake protocol. Shakes are a useful tool that enhance a plan that is sound overall.
Somebody said earlier in this thread, sorry, I can’t remember who at the moment, that there’s nothing new to talk about.
Properly understood that may be the towering profundity of the year so far. The BIG STUFF. The main principles, the shit that REALLY matters, the money methods, have all been discovered already and long ago.
To quote King Solomon, “there is nothing new under the sun”.
There is no new SOOOOOPER DOOOOPER routine, program, method, plan or nutrient coming that will make everything that’s been done for the last 40 years obsolete.
You work your body against ever increasing resistance in some kind of sane manner and feed the damn thing and it adapts by getting bigger and stronger. That’s how it’s always worked and that’s how it will always work.
That doesn’t mean fresh knowledge is useless. Quite the contrary. But all it will ever do is give a little better understanding and possibly an incremental improvement in practicing the things we’ve now known for a generation. There just isn’t THAT much to this.
Consistency and commitment is what’s tough, not technical accuracy.
The thing is that tons of aspects in weight lifting are overhyped because somebody is making money out of them.
i have two magic pills:
- hard work
- smart work
it’s bitter tasting, hard to buy…i don’t know why i always up my dossage
it is just the feeling that i am sure i am not having enough yet
look man, my reference to fats post workout was in regard to the digestion rate being slowed down.
the only way fat could slow anabolic response might be to postulate that absorption is slowed down.
i’m not splitting hairs over this silly shit.
interesting, but yes so full fat milk shakes are still the go 