Coming of Age - Rite of Passage

Alright,

I’m going to step out here and say what I think needs to be said. I’m probably gonna take a lot of heat but I don’t care.

If your boy is sexually mature, and he most likely is at 13. You absolutely should get him a hooker.

Now that you’re all done shaking your heads or thinking I’m a jerk - read the rest.

As short a time as 50-75 years ago this was a common and accepted practice. For hundreds, perhaps thousands of years before that it was not only endorsed and accepted, but pretty much expected of a father in most societies. If you can get your hands on the non-sanitized (feminized) versions of the history tomes you will find this is true.

However, the girl he is with the first time should not be some street whore. Back when this was an accepted practice most prostitutes were considered professionals and they had a particular way of doing things when they took care of a young man’s first time. They took him on a real “date” and spent time talking to him. They usually had dinner and then spent the evening talking before going to bed. The sex was instructional and not just a joyride for him. She usually spent several hours teaching him how to properly pleasure a woman and making him practice. Only after he had brought her to climax several times with different methods did she show him what a girl could do for him. She usually allowed him to spend the night and slept next to him, making him breakfast in the morning. Some went as far as to bathe and dress him in the morning before sending him home a man.

I had the pleasure of having this experience at 19 in Japan. An older gentleman who was a good friend and very wealthy arranged this for me without my knowledge and gave it to me as a gift. I had already broken my virginity at 16 and had blundered through sex with a few girls before that though.

The experience changed me and gave me a great deal of confidence with women. I definitely started “dating up” after that. I also started treating the girls differently. I was more able to wait, to be patient and to not pressure her for sex. I knew it would happen and what to do when it did.

So if you do this, spend the money on a very well recommended professional call girl. Be sure to sit her down before and explain what this is about. Be prepared to spend $2k and tip $200-$300 above that if she has good suggestions or already knows how to do this.

I would definitely give him something of yours that he would consider it an honor to have. I would also take him out for the day, or camping beforehand and have a few of those dad-to-son talks about the things that are going to happen next in his life - and how you expect him to handle himself. Tell him how you feel about him.

Then take him to the girl and before he leaves with her tell him that what happens is his moment and he should try to remember it all - and keep it to himself. Be sure to tell him how disappointed you would be if he gave away such a precious thing by bragging about it.

He may not be old enough - or mature enough for this at 13. But keep it in mind for later if so.

Crack open a beer with him, and tell him to enjoy these times. Because when he grows up, life gets real and the shit hits the fan.

When my youngest brother turned 16, I took him on a roadtrip of the entire east coast, where we stopped off and did overnight hikes at several locations in several states of the Appalachian Trail, meeting many people who were hiking the entire thing and hearing all kinds of stories about the crossroads they were at in their lives and why they were taking time off to do this challenging thing.

I bought him a good backpack and also a copy of Jon Krakauer’s “Into the Wild” and told him that he should start looking to find what his own path was, and whatever journey he took in life for self-improvement, it would make him a man, and I would be proud of him and support him. I took him whitewater rafting on class 5 rapids up in Maine, and made him hike up Mt. Katadhin with me on the last day before we headed back, among many other adventures.

There were no strong male figures in my family at that time, and he told me recently, at 20 years old, when he graduated Marine Corps boot camp, that the trip we took changed his entire outlook on life, and he wouldn’t have thought so hard about life choices and be headed in the direction he is now if it wasn’t for that trip, and he wants to do that someday for someone else. Made me tear up, the little shit. :wink:

I agree that you’re an awesome dad for thinking about this stuff. There are so many ways to go about producing the effect you are seeking. I’m sure whatever you do will have great meaning to him for the rest of his life.

[quote]theAnj wrote:
When my youngest brother turned 16, I took him on a roadtrip of the entire east coast, where we stopped off and did overnight hikes at several locations in several states of the Appalachian Trail, meeting many people who were hiking the entire thing and hearing all kinds of stories about the crossroads they were at in their lives and why they were taking time off to do this challenging thing.

I bought him a good backpack and also a copy of Jon Krakauer’s “Into the Wild” and told him that he should start looking to find what his own path was, and whatever journey he took in life for self-improvement, it would make him a man, and I would be proud of him and support him. I took him whitewater rafting on class 5 rapids up in Maine, and made him hike up Mt. Katadhin with me on the last day before we headed back, among many other adventures.

There were no strong male figures in my family at that time, and he told me recently, at 20 years old, when he graduated Marine Corps boot camp, that the trip we took changed his entire outlook on life, and he wouldn’t have thought so hard about life choices and be headed in the direction he is now if it wasn’t for that trip, and he wants to do that someday for someone else. Made me tear up, the little shit. :wink:

I agree that you’re an awesome dad for thinking about this stuff. There are so many ways to go about producing the effect you are seeking. I’m sure whatever you do will have great meaning to him for the rest of his life. [/quote]

You are one hell of a sister, Anj. That’s really cool of you.

[quote]theAnj wrote:
When my youngest brother turned 16, I took him on a roadtrip of the entire east coast, where we stopped off and did overnight hikes at several locations in several states of the Appalachian Trail, meeting many people who were hiking the entire thing and hearing all kinds of stories about the crossroads they were at in their lives and why they were taking time off to do this challenging thing.

I bought him a good backpack and also a copy of Jon Krakauer’s “Into the Wild” and told him that he should start looking to find what his own path was, and whatever journey he took in life for self-improvement, it would make him a man, and I would be proud of him and support him. I took him whitewater rafting on class 5 rapids up in Maine, and made him hike up Mt. Katadhin with me on the last day before we headed back, among many other adventures.

There were no strong male figures in my family at that time, and he told me recently, at 20 years old, when he graduated Marine Corps boot camp, that the trip we took changed his entire outlook on life, and he wouldn’t have thought so hard about life choices and be headed in the direction he is now if it wasn’t for that trip, and he wants to do that someday for someone else. Made me tear up, the little shit. :wink:

I agree that you’re an awesome dad for thinking about this stuff. There are so many ways to go about producing the effect you are seeking. I’m sure whatever you do will have great meaning to him for the rest of his life. [/quote]

Im jelous :stuck_out_tongue: That was one heck of an idea!

Thanks guys. In truth it was as much for me as for him. I’d just come back off from 2 back-to-back deployments to the mideast, and all my brain could think about was taking a huge chunk of leave and doing something, ANYTHING, that would make me feel alive and make all I did and all the time I’d spend on the next deployment worth it. I just wanted to LIVE.

So my bro grew up and expanded his horizons, and I got my sanity back and regained childlike wonder at the world. Whenever we talk about that trip we both just light up and get so animated telling people about the zillion cool things we did… dude we went on a pilgrimage to the home of Ben & Jerry’s, did microbrewery tours, saw a lumberjack show randomly on the side of some highway, did some kind of giant luge down a mountain, saw fireworks from above on the 4th of July on the top of Acadia National Park, looking down over the harbor, went to a Dave Matthews Concert, went parasailing, dined like kings in New England, he volunteered to be my designated driver after I did the “round the world” tour of Epcot Center down in FL, me having a drink in every country and decided it’d be fun to see how many different disney characters I could get my picture taken molesting… and God all the hiking was just incredible, the whole damn trail is beautiful.

Best 3.5 weeks of my life, hands down. :smiley: I think taking a roadtrip can be an amazing bonding experience with someone you love that you’ll remember the rest of your lives. So many random spontaneous things happen too, which just makes it all the more fun and memorable.

Anj - what you did for you little brother was incredible. It’s things like that which will make a profound impressive on a young man’s life and stay with him forever.

And I bet the bond the two of you now share is probably stronger than most in this world will ever get the chance to experience. You guys got to do some pretty incredible stuff in that 3.5 weeks of adventure. Good on ya.

I was able to find some books that may help. Anyone ever read Robert Bly’s “Iron John”. I hear it’s really good.

Also found:
Boy into Man - A Father’s Guide to Initiation of Teenage Sons by Bernard Weiner

The Thundering Years - Rituals and Sacred Wisdom for Teens by Julie Tallard Johnson

Boys Becoming Men by Lowell Sheppard

We’ll see what these have that I can add with some of the ideas you have all provided.

[quote]Lohryx5 wrote:

Boy into Man - A Father’s Guide to Initiation of Teenage Sons by Bernard Weiner

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Oh man, writing a book about manliness with a last name like Weiner? Hehe. :smiley: Poor guy, I would change my name.

As a soon to be father of a… we’ll find out in 3 more months when the kids pops out, I think this is a freakin’ awesome idea and will be doing the same thing eventually.

There are some really great ideas in this thread. I’ll have to bookmark it for when I’ll need it in 13 years! haha

An early congrats to you, dre. You’ll find that fatherhood is truly an adventure in its own way. I’ve got three boys (almost 13, 9, and 5) and love every minute of it.

[quote]Lohryx5 wrote:
An early congrats to you, dre. You’ll find that fatherhood is truly an adventure in its own way. I’ve got three boys (almost 13, 9, and 5) and love every minute of it.[/quote]

Thanks. I’m just working on one boy right now. haha Three boys huh, never a dull moment around your house I bet.