[quote]imhungry wrote:
[quote]kevinm1 wrote:
As boring as heros fighting heros is this cover looks awesome these are two of my favorite female characters. I haven’t read an X-Men book in a long time does Rogue still have Carol Danver’s aka Ms Marvel’s powers? If not She Hulk is going to kick her ass[/quote]
Yes, I believe she does.
I’d give Rogue the edge.[/quote]
I agree. The combination of flight, strength, and energy absorption is too much for the Green Goddess.
[quote]roybot wrote:
Dr. Manhattan vs. Molecule Man
Nick Fury vs. Punisher
Hellboy vs. Etrigan
Reed Richards vs. Plastic Man vs. Elongated Man (would it end in a tie?)
Iron Fist vs. Bronze Tiger[/quote]
Specify pre retcon or post retcon molecule man. Pre is easily a top 5 all time marvel character. He fought the Beyonder. He would crush Manhattan.
Does Fury have time to prep the fight? If not Castle wins in a tough fight.
Etrigan murders hellboy. Etigan can and has fought Superman. Hellboy is a 10 tonner with good durability but no where near Etrigan.
Iron Fist with Chi beats Bronze Tiger. IF’s Chi allows him to hit extremely hard, see punching hole in hellicarrier. In terms of pure fighting Bronze Tiger by a slight majority.
[quote]WolBarret wrote:
[quote]imhungry wrote:
[quote]kevinm1 wrote:
As boring as heros fighting heros is this cover looks awesome these are two of my favorite female characters. I haven’t read an X-Men book in a long time does Rogue still have Carol Danver’s aka Ms Marvel’s powers? If not She Hulk is going to kick her ass[/quote]
Yes, I believe she does.
I’d give Rogue the edge.[/quote]
I agree. The combination of flight, strength, and energy absorption is too much for the Green Goddess.
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I’m pretty certain she does not have the Ms Marvel power at the moment. Without that she gets crushed.
[quote]Otto the Ecto wrote:
^ Dammit you beat me to it!
My bet is on Goku, since Superman is a homo.
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That comment aside, Goku presumably has magic on his side, and Supes is vulnerable to magic.
[quote]TDub301 wrote:
[quote]imhungry wrote:
Tdub, i’m pretty sure that Deadpool’s healing factor is stronger, since Wolverine’s has to deal with his Adamantium skeleton. Without the Adamantium, his healing factor would rival Deadpool’s.
Wade has survived multiple beheadings, also.[/quote]
From what I’ve read, the strength of his healing factor has changed multiple times. I don’t even rememnber how he got it, cuz I don’t think it’s a mutant power. But I may be wrong… so I just gauged it that way. I was really more trying to explain what Deadpool is like to Wol since he made it seem like he doesn’t know much about the character (which frankly surprises the shit out of me). But I wouldn’t argue with you if you said it was as strong or even stronger than Wolverine’s.[/quote]
i have the comic(a civil war one i believe) where nitro basically fried everything off wolvering, leaving only the adamantium skeleton and he actually “healed” himself back. (wtf??) apparently he had some pact with the angel of death or something. but he broke off the pact cause life was getting boring with that level of healing(felt his reactions/skills were getting duller) and broke the pact.
[quote]IamMarqaos wrote:
Batman fought Captain America and they tied 
Though Batman admitted that Cap could probably beat him.
Actually, Batman fought the Hulk too! He won the first fight, I believe, by using gas and had a building fall on him in the second fight. Hulk was influenced by the Joker in that one. In the end Batman was able to convince Hulk he was a friend and together they beat the Joker.
The greatest fight of all?:
Superman vs Muhammed Ali!
Aliens came to destroy Earth unless Earth’s champion could beat their’s. Unfortunately the deal included fighting in the home planet of the aliens where the sun was red. To determine who was the greatest Ali taught Superman how to box under red sunlight. Of course Ali won the match but Superman saved the planet by destroying the alien armada around our Earth.[/quote]
I’ve had the debate about Batman too and I think it all comes down to a couple “what ifs”.In other words, IF Wolverine were to simply appear in Gotham from some alternate universe and Batman had no clue who he was, he would be fucked if Wolverine immediately decided he was going to kill the Batman. Bruce Wayne wouldn’t even be safe.
But if Batman knew who Wolverine was, if they had coexisted for a significant amount of time before Wolverine decided to go after him, Batman would probably win. He would have a contingency plan, like he has for the entire JLA. With his smarts and available resources, Batman would have a big fucking magnet or something that simple immobilizes Wolverine. If it were Captain America, he’d have some for him as well. Batman vs. Spiderman or Venom might be nice, but I don’t think Spiderman has it in him to stop Batman and Batman would use some ultra-sonic device to incapacitate Venom.
Batman vs. Punisher
Batman vs. Ironman
Martian Manhunter vs. Silver Surfer
Green Lantern vs. Magneto
The Flash vs. The Hulk
Aquaman vs. Namor
The Joker vs. Professor Xavier
Ra’s al Ghul vs. The Punisher
[quote]redstar144 wrote:
Specify pre retcon or post retcon molecule man. Pre is easily a top 5 all time marvel character. He fought the Beyonder. He would crush Manhattan. [/quote]
Pre retcon , Secret Wars MM was defeated. Manhattan’s relative detachment would be an advantage. He can’t be goaded or manipulated like MM. If you’re going to make distinctions between different versions of the same character, then the Hawkeye/ Bullseye match could be ended simply by saying that Bullseye took the Hawkeye mantle in Dark Avengers, so he’d be fighting himself and he’d win no matter what…
If one combatant gets prep time, so does the other.
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Batman vs. Punisher
Batman vs. Ironman
Martian Manhunter vs. Silver Surfer
Green Lantern vs. Magneto
The Flash vs. The Hulk
Aquaman vs. Namor
The Joker vs. Professor Xavier
Ra’s al Ghul vs. The Punisher[/quote]
Batman- better fighter, smarter, utility belt
Ironman- too much raw power
Surfer- too many different abilities
Green Lantern- much more powerful
Flash-Hulk can’t do anything to him
Dont know enough about Namor or Aquaman to comment.
Xavier-even if he can’t mind control Joker he could shut down his brainwaves
Ra’s-better fighter, smarter
Lex Luthor vs Iron Man
Loki vs Darkseid
Fin Fang Foom vs Beast Boy
Bucky vs Robin
[quote]Otto the Ecto wrote:
^ Dammit you beat me to it!
My bet is on Goku, since Superman is a homo.
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Tough call. Soulja By seems to like both.
[quote]Chris Colucci wrote:
Lex Luthor vs Iron Man
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Why the hell hasn’t this been done yet?
[quote]redstar144 wrote:
[quote]WolBarret wrote:
[quote]imhungry wrote:
[quote]kevinm1 wrote:
As boring as heros fighting heros is this cover looks awesome these are two of my favorite female characters. I haven’t read an X-Men book in a long time does Rogue still have Carol Danver’s aka Ms Marvel’s powers? If not She Hulk is going to kick her ass[/quote]
Yes, I believe she does.
I’d give Rogue the edge.[/quote]
I agree. The combination of flight, strength, and energy absorption is too much for the Green Goddess.
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I’m pretty certain she does not have the Ms Marvel power at the moment. Without that she gets crushed.[/quote]
Rogue lost her powers temporarily, then got them back. I don’t know the details, though.
[quote]theBird wrote:
I remember about 15 years ago voting for the results of the first Amalagam series. I since havent read comic books as I grew up and they became riduculously expensive.
Do they still do the whole Amalagam thing now?
tweet[/quote]
No. All of the Amalgam titles were part of an overarching plot line where the Marvel and DC universes were merged.
[quote]WolBarret wrote:
Thor > Hulk
Juggernaut > Hulk
Superman > Hulk
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Thank you. I like Hulk too. But something something about brute strength leads me to believe there are limitations. In space, vs. magic.
Is Hulk immune to psionics/mind attacks too?
So not to get too far off topic, but I think that some video game characters would be interesting contenders against the Marvel/ DC universe. For example, Link with the Triforce/ Master Sword. Or the Prince of Persia. And obviously the whole Mortal Kombat Gang
[quote]XanderBuilt wrote:
[quote]WolBarret wrote:
Thor > Hulk
Juggernaut > Hulk
Superman > Hulk
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Thank you. I like Hulk too. But something something about brute strength leads me to believe there are limitations. In space, vs. magic. [/quote]
It all depends on how you view ‘magic’ in comics. Most readers treat magic and science as separate qualities. Magic- based characters are usually said to be able to beat science-based characters (and I would classify Superman as science-based, BTW) because science must have limits and rules at some point.
I hold all comic characters to Arthur C. Clarke’s third law of sci-fi: “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic”. Under this law, magic is a branch of science so advanced that we lack the development to perceive it as anything other than mystical power, which has no constraints as it has no clear origin.
Another interpretation would be that the concept of magic exists to house beliefs that can’t be explained by science. When they can be explained by science they automatically become part of science.
In recent years, writers have suggested that Marvel’s pantheon of Norse gods aren’t gods at all but actually a race of technologically-advanced aliens. These changes have occurred in part because writers have been influenced by authors outside of comic books, like Clarke (many of these influences didn’t exist when Thor made his debut: at that time we believed there were little green men on Mars).
This change in thinking levels the playing field for a match-up between Thor and Hulk. Where it was previously thought that Thor could beat Hulk because magic has dominion over science, it is now possible that Thor’s powers are based in science. The question then becomes: "can Hulk’s powers grow to surpass those of an advanced alien?
